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Sparkles...Have You Lost Your Minds?!?

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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    elantaura wrote: »
    Just linking back to this horse - white gold horse
    On telvar - bits of white gold tower
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tel_Var_Stones
    Books On tel var
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_the_Tel_Var_Stones
    Would not be hard to feed some horse some powdered stone powder I imagine creation magic to be a bit sparkly. Now how is it I can sit on a flame Astro again?

    Alternatively, I can just picture a stuck-up Imperial/Altmer/Breton noble commissioning some folks from the Mage Guild to 'fancy up' his pampered show horse. Various light spells & other illusions enchanted onto the saddle/bridle/reins/etc. Totally in-character for some of those guys.

    Wins thread in my view :p. In a world of mages, surely they could, as you say, offer magical enchantments to "pimp" a horse up.

    This is a discussion, not a competition. If your attitude towards having a discussion or conversation with another person is that you have to "win". Then maybe its not the other persons views thats the problem. Its yours.

    Yikes. I think you mistook her intent. It was an oft said way to heartily agree.

    Maybe take a deep breath and not be so quick to snap at folk? :)
    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    elantaura wrote: »
    Just linking back to this horse - white gold horse
    On telvar - bits of white gold tower
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tel_Var_Stones
    Books On tel var
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_the_Tel_Var_Stones
    Would not be hard to feed some horse some powdered stone powder I imagine creation magic to be a bit sparkly. Now how is it I can sit on a flame Astro again?

    Alternatively, I can just picture a stuck-up Imperial/Altmer/Breton noble commissioning some folks from the Mage Guild to 'fancy up' his pampered show horse. Various light spells & other illusions enchanted onto the saddle/bridle/reins/etc. Totally in-character for some of those guys.

    Wins thread in my view :p. In a world of mages, surely they could, as you say, offer magical enchantments to "pimp" a horse up.

    This is a discussion, not a competition. If your attitude towards having a discussion or conversation with another person is that you have to "win". Then maybe its not the other persons views thats the problem. Its yours.

    Yikes. I think you mistook her intent. It was an oft said way to heartily agree.

    Maybe take a deep breath and not be so quick to snap at folk? :)

    Then maybe she should say she agrees instead of making comments that can be interpreted as trollish by others. No one makes comments like that outside of trying to shut a conversation down. And snapping at people...If thats what you take as snapping at people. You need fresh air.
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    elantaura wrote: »
    Just linking back to this horse - white gold horse
    On telvar - bits of white gold tower
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tel_Var_Stones
    Books On tel var
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_the_Tel_Var_Stones
    Would not be hard to feed some horse some powdered stone powder I imagine creation magic to be a bit sparkly. Now how is it I can sit on a flame Astro again?

    Alternatively, I can just picture a stuck-up Imperial/Altmer/Breton noble commissioning some folks from the Mage Guild to 'fancy up' his pampered show horse. Various light spells & other illusions enchanted onto the saddle/bridle/reins/etc. Totally in-character for some of those guys.

    Wins thread in my view :p. In a world of mages, surely they could, as you say, offer magical enchantments to "pimp" a horse up.

    This is a discussion, not a competition. If your attitude towards having a discussion or conversation with another person is that you have to "win". Then maybe its not the other persons views thats the problem. Its yours.

    Yikes. I think you mistook her intent. It was an oft said way to heartily agree.

    Maybe take a deep breath and not be so quick to snap at folk? :)

    Then maybe she should say she agrees instead of making comments that can be interpreted as trollish by others. No one makes comments like that outside of trying to shut a conversation down. And snapping at people...If thats what you take as snapping at people. You need fresh air.

    Well okay then, Mr. Grumpy Pants. :)

    You have yourself a lovely weekend, won't you?
    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    elantaura wrote: »
    Just linking back to this horse - white gold horse
    On telvar - bits of white gold tower
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tel_Var_Stones
    Books On tel var
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_the_Tel_Var_Stones
    Would not be hard to feed some horse some powdered stone powder I imagine creation magic to be a bit sparkly. Now how is it I can sit on a flame Astro again?

    Alternatively, I can just picture a stuck-up Imperial/Altmer/Breton noble commissioning some folks from the Mage Guild to 'fancy up' his pampered show horse. Various light spells & other illusions enchanted onto the saddle/bridle/reins/etc. Totally in-character for some of those guys.

    Wins thread in my view :p. In a world of mages, surely they could, as you say, offer magical enchantments to "pimp" a horse up.

    This is a discussion, not a competition. If your attitude towards having a discussion or conversation with another person is that you have to "win". Then maybe its not the other persons views thats the problem. Its yours.

    Yikes. I think you mistook her intent. It was an oft said way to heartily agree.

    Maybe take a deep breath and not be so quick to snap at folk? :)

    Then maybe she should say she agrees instead of making comments that can be interpreted as trollish by others. No one makes comments like that outside of trying to shut a conversation down. And snapping at people...If thats what you take as snapping at people. You need fresh air.

    Well okay then, Mr. Grumpy Pants. :)

    You have yourself a lovely weekend, won't you?

    You too, Veil of Fake Niceness.
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    Captain Paramount - Jorrhaq Vhent
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    Tenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'Les
    Aban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia Severinus
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  • SydneyGrey
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    You know, it is both historical and made up by people. Historical merely means that it pertains to past events, and there are a lot of past events that ESO builds on. Namely, the games and interal writings about them, and the game world they portray.
    "Historical" does not mean what you think it means.
    Historical refers to past events IN REAL LIFE. It cannot be used for a made-up game world. That's ridiculous.
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    SydneyGrey wrote: »
    lordrichter wrote: »
    You know, it is both historical and made up by people. Historical merely means that it pertains to past events, and there are a lot of past events that ESO builds on. Namely, the games and interal writings about them, and the game world they portray.
    "Historical" does not mean what you think it means.
    Historical refers to past events IN REAL LIFE. It cannot be used for a made-up game world. That's ridiculous.

    I bolded what you didn't read. Historical refers to past events in the game series, as well as notes about those games written by the developers. About the game world, not in the game world.
    Edited by Elsonso on February 10, 2018 8:26PM
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  • Nyrielle
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    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    The White Gold Imperial Horse, aside from the typical leg issues, is actually a very well done and detailed mount. But whomever decided to put sparkles on it like this is some My Little Pony episode is not funny.

    3500 crowns that I WAS going to be spending on this, but now I wont be.

    I agree about the sparkles. I was debating whether to buy or not because it is a beautiful horse. The sparkles made the decision for me.

    Also, the leg issues are caused by the inverse kenetics. Turn it off and the legs on all your mounts will not be misshapen. You will deal with occasional not be flush with the ground though. I chose a better visual appearance of my mounts.
    Edited by Nyrielle on February 10, 2018 8:29PM
  • LadyAstrum
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    DieAlteHexe wrote: »
    Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »
    LadyAstrum wrote: »
    Kiralyn2000 wrote: »
    elantaura wrote: »
    Just linking back to this horse - white gold horse
    On telvar - bits of white gold tower
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tel_Var_Stones
    Books On tel var
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_the_Tel_Var_Stones
    Would not be hard to feed some horse some powdered stone powder I imagine creation magic to be a bit sparkly. Now how is it I can sit on a flame Astro again?

    Alternatively, I can just picture a stuck-up Imperial/Altmer/Breton noble commissioning some folks from the Mage Guild to 'fancy up' his pampered show horse. Various light spells & other illusions enchanted onto the saddle/bridle/reins/etc. Totally in-character for some of those guys.

    Wins thread in my view :p. In a world of mages, surely they could, as you say, offer magical enchantments to "pimp" a horse up.

    This is a discussion, not a competition. If your attitude towards having a discussion or conversation with another person is that you have to "win". Then maybe its not the other persons views thats the problem. Its yours.

    Yikes. I think you mistook her intent. It was an oft said way to heartily agree.

    Maybe take a deep breath and not be so quick to snap at folk? :)

    Thank you, I decided to use a throw-away term I've seen used umpteen times (not one I use often) and I'm jumped on. Ah well, I appreciate you for understanding.
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  • VaranisArano
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    MikkeOfGreenRiver wrote: »
    Thankfully in this game we are not limited to a generic medieval environment. This is The Elder Scrolls. The lore is bigger than all of the games, and it keeps getting bigger. Want to play a pig farmer? Go for it. Naked Nord? Dwemer scholar? You’re not alone. Would you care to worship a shiny floating goddess-queen who does not appear to own panties? Lucky you, we’ve got one.

    One thing that does not fit in an Elder Scrolls environment is one player trying to control another player’s aesthetic. You can have your zombie mount or spider car or camel made out of vines. I’ll take the nicely textured horse, thank you. With all of the magical effects I’ve played with over several TES games, I don’t wonder how a rich kid’s pony could sparkle. I wonder why more things don’t.

    But... We can only have two pigs. I think they are different pigs. One is some special promotional pig that is probably hard to come by. I can never get to the conventions where they handed those out, and I am not sure if they are even handing them out any more! :disappointed:

    If this game were filled with sparkles, no one would think twice about it. The fact that people are thinking about it suggests that it is out of place. Against the lore? Maybe not. Out of place? I can agree with that. Magical world or not.

    I dunno. My game gives me an illusion spell that makes crafting nodes glow and a potion that makes fishing holes sparkle. Also, its been a really long time since I first-person cast some resto staff abilities, but I seem to remember sparkles. Combat Prayer is like a trail of "Stand in the sparkles, guys!"

    Also, at least its better than the spell effects from Morrowind. One of those (Mysticism I think?) made it look like I was casting a stream of purple-pink bubbles.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    VaranisArano wrote: »
    lordrichter wrote: »
    MikkeOfGreenRiver wrote: »
    Thankfully in this game we are not limited to a generic medieval environment. This is The Elder Scrolls. The lore is bigger than all of the games, and it keeps getting bigger. Want to play a pig farmer? Go for it. Naked Nord? Dwemer scholar? You’re not alone. Would you care to worship a shiny floating goddess-queen who does not appear to own panties? Lucky you, we’ve got one.

    One thing that does not fit in an Elder Scrolls environment is one player trying to control another player’s aesthetic. You can have your zombie mount or spider car or camel made out of vines. I’ll take the nicely textured horse, thank you. With all of the magical effects I’ve played with over several TES games, I don’t wonder how a rich kid’s pony could sparkle. I wonder why more things don’t.

    But... We can only have two pigs. I think they are different pigs. One is some special promotional pig that is probably hard to come by. I can never get to the conventions where they handed those out, and I am not sure if they are even handing them out any more! :disappointed:

    If this game were filled with sparkles, no one would think twice about it. The fact that people are thinking about it suggests that it is out of place. Against the lore? Maybe not. Out of place? I can agree with that. Magical world or not.

    I dunno. My game gives me an illusion spell that makes crafting nodes glow and a potion that makes fishing holes sparkle. Also, its been a really long time since I first-person cast some resto staff abilities, but I seem to remember sparkles. Combat Prayer is like a trail of "Stand in the sparkles, guys!"

    Also, at least its better than the spell effects from Morrowind. One of those (Mysticism I think?) made it look like I was casting a stream of purple-pink bubbles.

    Resto staff "mutagen" is definitely sparkly as well.

    Just not getting the objections, especially to something that one doesn't have to have/use (unlike heals).
    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • coplannb16_ESO
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    lordrichter wrote: »
    coplannb16_ESO wrote: »
    Bothers me that they turn a mature/serious medieval/fantasy setting into hello Kitty online... the Game quickly moves away from beeing an elder Scroll Game. You can argue whether this ever was one. When ES6 Comes, ZoS will get what they deserve...

    We trust that ZOS and Bethesda are good stewards for the Elder Scrolls brand. Bethesda is used to this role, but they are experimenting with monetization that their in-house game studio does not need. In the end, that monetization is going to butt heads with that stewardship, and that is where the trust comes in.

    Honestly, I think monetization is winning too much. Probably more than is necessary to support the game studio, continuing and future development, and other expenses, so that they can maximize profits. I am all for making money, but I see the game as being the goal, and the profit as the reward for that game. The ESO monetization plan pays off for non-game effort.

    As for TES 6, if ESO is around, they will get what they deserve. Probably a large influx of new players wanting to continue in the world that TES 6 introduces them to. People are under a mistaken impression that the masses that buy games like TES 6 won't play ESO, given the option. This is not a zero sum situation.

    maybe, or the other way around. it depends of course ^whether ES6 is better than Fallout 4 and whether or not there will be multiplayer in it.

    The one guy saying sparkles are not different from flame or ice astro horses, well maybe, but I didnt say I like those either. Did anyone of you ride or see one of those in any other TES game? No, plain horses and thats it. of course there were unicorns, but you could only kill them, not ride them.
    Edited by coplannb16_ESO on February 12, 2018 7:36AM
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  • ghastley
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    coplannb16_ESO wrote: »
    Did anyone of you ride or see one of those in any other TES game? No, plain horses and thats it. of course there were unicorns, but you could only kill them, not ride them.

    Yes, you could ride the unicorn in TES IV: Oblivion. It wasn't easy, mind you, as it went hostile if you drew a weapon.
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    Living_Ded wrote: »
    ...

    Also, does anyone have screens of the full upgrades on this? Stam, Speed, Carry?

    No screens of it but the speed and stam upgrade do nothing. The carrying upgrade gives it nice sleek saddlebags that match its tack quite well.

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  • jubilante
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    1000% disagree.

    I absolutely love everything about this mount. I squee'd out loud when I saw it had sparkles. Frankly, the sparkles and the glowy hoofprints are the only reason I think it's worth the inflated 3500 crown price -- extra animations do take a bit more dev time.

    For the record, I am female. And not everyone needs to have mounts oozing blood and fire to count as "totally badass bro". So happy there is a dainty pretty mount for once.

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    The mount is most fun to ride through PVP with the sound effects and sparkles going on. Way too expensive, but I bought it anyway.
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  • Minyassa
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    Oh please, all this other elemental stuff has flames, sparks, green dripping goo and so forth, why are sparkles such an issue? It's a magical effect just like all the rest.
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    xbobx wrote: »
    i think charging 3500 crowns in itself shows they have lost their minds

    I still don't understand why people would buy just a cosmetic for such a crazy amount... And then they wonder why the issues in this game don't get fixed
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    Zbigb4life wrote: »
    xbobx wrote: »
    i think charging 3500 crowns in itself shows they have lost their minds

    I still don't understand why people would buy just a cosmetic for such a crazy amount... And then they wonder why the issues in this game don't get fixed

    Disposable income.

    Also - this game was launched with issues. Issues have always been a fundamental part of the player experience.
    Edited by Slurg on February 15, 2018 11:58AM
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  • Elsonso
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    Slurg wrote: »
    Zbigb4life wrote: »
    xbobx wrote: »
    i think charging 3500 crowns in itself shows they have lost their minds

    I still don't understand why people would buy just a cosmetic for such a crazy amount... And then they wonder why the issues in this game don't get fixed

    Disposable income.

    Also - this game was launched with issues. Issues have always been a fundamental part of the player experience.

    This last statement is true. Crazy mount prices, and insane outfit slot prices, are not why so many issues don't get fixed.
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  • Appleblade
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    jubilante wrote: »
    And not everyone needs to have mounts oozing blood and fire to count as "totally badass bro"

    Is that what they are trying to do? I see people on those things blasting fire over and over and I want to tell them to maybe change their mount’s diet.
  • Dareena
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    Oh please, all this other elemental stuff has flames, sparks, green dripping goo and so forth, why are sparkles such an issue? It's a magical effect just like all the rest.

    It's not like "all the rest", and that's exactly the issue. The sparkles doesn't look like an Elder Scrolls magical effect, they look like a Disney cartoon magical effect. People mention resto staff skills sparkles or flame creatures sparks, but those effects are not cartoonish.
    The horse is nice indeed and it will fit perfectly for My Little Pony Online, but for the Elder Scrolls Online it's too much out of place.
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  • DiNanna63
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    I love the mount: sparkles, sound effects included.I'm glad I bought her.
  • DieAlteHexe
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    Dareena wrote: »
    Minyassa wrote: »
    Oh please, all this other elemental stuff has flames, sparks, green dripping goo and so forth, why are sparkles such an issue? It's a magical effect just like all the rest.

    It's not like "all the rest", and that's exactly the issue. The sparkles doesn't look like an Elder Scrolls magical effect, they look like a Disney cartoon magical effect. People mention resto staff skills sparkles or flame creatures sparks, but those effects are not cartoonish.
    The horse is nice indeed and it will fit perfectly for My Little Pony Online, but for the Elder Scrolls Online it's too much out of place.

    Mutagen? Pretty sparkly.

    Lots of things sparkly when you start taking note, which I did when folk had hissy fits about the courser. Hadn't really noticed before.

    Now, if you want to talk about "things out of place", those coloured floaty orbs around the armor drive me bonkers but hey, the folks that have them, enjoy them apparently and who am I to disparage what they like. I think it looks silly but there you go, more power to 'em.
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  • Kodrac
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    Nihility42 wrote: »
    Sparkles is where you draw the line? That's too much? Not fire horses or any of the other stuff they've released? Is this an immersion problem or because you're afraid of anything that might be considered cutesy or feminine?

    Ok, from now on stuff sucks because it sucks. No further details required.
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    The sparkles on the horse look like the sparkles from the resto staff. I had both on me in rapid succession last night and got to see them in close comparison.
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    I just named my sparkle horse Grimdark The Edglord (have to leave a letter out because character limit). He likes it.
  • LadyAstrum
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    Still enjoying my sparkle horse and pony (Sparkles and Sparklet). Sorry there are some apparently uncomfortable with a few sparkles, but tough puppy doo. I love them, and there are others that do as well. At least be glad it was time-limited so you won't see a ton of them.
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    I love the new mounts, as I do most of them. I may not love all of the selections, but I really appreciate ZOS creating a good variety for their players to choose from. Anything from realistic to skeleton, mechanical, or flames.. After all, if I’m not mistaken, this is a fantasy game... I think sparkles would qualify ;)
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    Well, for me it's the most preposterous of all fancy mounts now. Even worse than those Bone/Fire Apex mounts from the Crown crates. Storm/Wild Hunt mounts are great, though.
    Edited by logarifmik on February 19, 2018 9:41AM
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  • Penarddun
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    The way I see it, if we are going for full realism here, there have been many, many mounts released already that are just as bad, if not worse, when it comes to the over the top/immersion breaking argument.

    I'm not a fan of very shiny, WoW-like weapons, etc. making the game world feel like a cartoon instead of a realistic world. That said, this horse is definitely not the worst offender by far. It could easily be an elven horse. High Elf specifically. It goes with their arrogance and decadence quite well. I could easily see High Elves walking in on these horses. And a few sparkles in a world where magic exists is not out of the realm of possibilities. The horse shoes on the ground are also barely noticeable.

    It's only crime I see over the Storm Atronach, Dro-m'Athra Senche, Frost Mare, or Mind-Shriven Horse is that it is clearly a feminine-style horse. And that's not a bad thing.
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