Can anyone confirm if the Werewolf bleed changes on PTS are as bad as they sound? It seems like a massive nerf to damage output.
IlCanis_LupuslI wrote: »The Sword and Bord bug with Physical Weapon Expert Cp is Fixed i tested it just now.
IlCanis_LupuslI wrote: »The Sword and Bord bug with Physical Weapon Expert Cp is Fixed i tested it just now.
Yep, that makes S&B+poison the best WW bar for CP PvP in my opinion, pushing it just above 2H/DW in overall value.
IlCanis_LupuslI wrote: »The Sword and Bord bug with Physical Weapon Expert Cp is Fixed i tested it just now.
Yep, that makes S&B+poison the best WW bar for CP PvP in my opinion, pushing it just above 2H/DW in overall value.
IlCanis_LupuslI wrote: »The Sword and Bord bug with Physical Weapon Expert Cp is Fixed i tested it just now.
Yep, that makes S&B+poison the best WW bar for CP PvP in my opinion, pushing it just above 2H/DW in overall value.
What would you recommend for noCP in that case?
Could we say Medium armor is turning into meta for PVP werewolves? I run a Nord one with 5/1/1, 5 medium. Over resist cap without really investing into resistance, or picking specific resist sets - except for Mighty Chudan, I might add. I usually go Troll King or Chudan for PVP ww, so I either "health regen" through damage, or try and shut it out.
What would you say about sets like Ranger's Gait or Barkskin on a ww? I can safely say, my biggest concern are first and foremost all snares and immobilizations, and secondly dot's. I have a good way to gain lots of magicka for heals, but the snares I still feel probelematic. Try to be on immovable/savagery/endurance pots 24/7, but immovable itself is just like 10 seconds per pot, of course.
IlCanis_LupuslI wrote: »I prefer medium because of the much better mobility since i play mostly open world. I still think medium isnt so much worse then heavy on a ww atm the stam sustain is 10000% better and the mag sustain... well im wearing desert rose for a reason ^^
Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »I would say stamina sustain is better in medium, but mag sustain is better in heavy. You can still benefit from constitution going 5 medium 2 heavy. This means you are only missing out on the equivalent of 270 stam and mag recovery from Constitution over a 7 heavy build. 5 medium gets you 20% bonus stam recovery and 10% reduced stamina costs. This more than makes up for the stamina portion of what you lose from Constitution. 10% reduced costs alone would be stronger than constitution assuming you use any WW stamina ability every 3 seconds.
Going medium essentially gets you an extra 400 stam recovery in exchange for 270 mag recovery. The bonuses to health recovery, resistances, max health, and healing received are a much bigger deal than the sustain, which can be almost completely negated by simply running the mag recovery mundus.
That being said, mag sustain is the biggest pain point of any WW build, so while Constitution doesn't really lead to better sustain, it does add another attractive enticement towards going full or 5 heavy.
Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »I would say stamina sustain is better in medium, but mag sustain is better in heavy. You can still benefit from constitution going 5 medium 2 heavy. This means you are only missing out on the equivalent of 270 stam and mag recovery from Constitution over a 7 heavy build. 5 medium gets you 20% bonus stam recovery and 10% reduced stamina costs. This more than makes up for the stamina portion of what you lose from Constitution. 10% reduced costs alone would be stronger than constitution assuming you use any WW stamina ability every 3 seconds.
Going medium essentially gets you an extra 400 stam recovery in exchange for 270 mag recovery. The bonuses to health recovery, resistances, max health, and healing received are a much bigger deal than the sustain, which can be almost completely negated by simply running the mag recovery mundus.
That being said, mag sustain is the biggest pain point of any WW build, so while Constitution doesn't really lead to better sustain, it does add another attractive enticement towards going full or 5 heavy.
Let's do an exercise 5-2 heavy, vs 5-2 medium.
I've created 2 builds both of which will utilize the Pirate Skeleton and Desert rose to recreate an open world pvp need for tankiness and massive magic consumption.
We will use a sorc orc as our basis for both builds. Enchants, mundus, attributes and traits have been tweaked to get us as similar numbers as possible.
Medium's 3rd set will be Bone Tatters as it make good use of both medium and werewolf passives.
Heavy's 3rd set will be Seventh Legion as it provides a nearly 100% uptime in combat and Synergizes well with both the werewolf and heavy armor passives.
The Comparison
All numbers are broken down to regen equivalent levels, and proc on cooldown.
Heavy attacks: Done once every 10 seconds
Medium: 1029
Heavy:1286
Stamina Gain: Stamina Regen, Constitution, Heavies
Medium: 2976
Heavy: 3128
Ability cost: Howl of Agony
Medium: 2984
Heavy: 3195
Ability Drain: Howl of Agony Cast every 3 seconds
Medium: -1989
Heavy: -2130
Combat Recovery: Stamina gain - Ability Drain
Medium: 987
Heavy: 998
Total Resistances
Medium: 71707
Heavy: 72369
Magicka Gain: Mag Regen, Desert rose, Constitution, Atro (on medium)
Medium: 2099
Heavy: 2095
Movement speed: Werewolf form, Steed
Medium: +30%
Heavy: +40%
Sprint Speed: Orc, Medium passives, werewolf, steed (heavy)
Medium: 95%
Heavy: 96%
Bonus Healing: Rapid Mending
Medium: 0
Heavy: 8%
Heath Regen: HP regen, Steed, Seventh
Medium: 336
Heavy: 1999
Amdar_Godkiller wrote: »I usually run either Darkstride or Acuity with Kena or Troll King as well, and my playstyle is very much about staying at the 200% speed cap by permasprinting, zigzagging, light attack tagging, and defiling my opponents. I beat sorcs by chasing them and being faster than them while losing no stamina in pursuit, so they can never disengage and never effectively target me at range. It's just much more fun than a heavy armor build, and I don't ever run out of stam or mag. With the cooldown on immobilizations, it's really the best way to PVP as a WW right now.