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Helping make unique builds.

  • Thorstienn
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    @AngryUSAman
    Well Alcast's builds are pretty "meta" so can't go wrong there. In saying that, do note that his builds are designed for an optimal dungeon/trial group. i.e a healer healing you and a tank taking most of the damage.

    Quick note. I suggest morphing Rending Slashes for Blood Craze instead, simply as it gives you a heal for a minute loss of damage, but not super important.

    Re your bars. (of course you can just work towards Alcasts build, but for more versatility/ease with solos)

    Keep deadly cloak on front bar (AoE damage reduction) or replace with Hardened shield in Solo.
    Move Trap beast to back bar in place of Deadly Cloak (useless on Bow Bar/front bar will level DW faster)
    Place/morph to Shrouded Daggers on front bar (this is your DW spammable; for large groups of mobs use Steel Tornado)
    If your Undaunted is lvl 2 you can replace Silver leash with Trapping Webs (morphed to Shadowsilk) as an alternate to Caltrops; if not you can even use Dark Talons as a sort of replacement.

    For PVP, I recommend doing the tutorial first (by travelling to Cyrodil), for a quick 3 levels. then just queue into Battlegrounds (you get points whether you win or lose). On the way to caltrops pick up vigor for a good stamina heal.

    hope that helps
  • The_Tarantian
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    @DocFrost72,
    First of all, thank you and all the people who lend help here. I really appreciate it even though I haven't got advice myself (yet).

    Now I wanna ask you for help. I am looking for the alternative build for my magblade. I'm doing PvE stuff mostly, including hm vet dungeons (dlc too) and even some vet trials. So I am lookin for the alternative that could still be competetive with current meta LA-weave build, being able to reach 30kísh dps, let's say. If it had something to do with the vampirism would be even better, but that ain't crucial. I just struggle to come up with fresh new ideas myself.

    Thanks in advance.
    Erin Go Bragh, Erin go Braugh !
    It's Irish for "you're ***".
  • Sixsixsix161
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    josiahva wrote: »
    There is no market for this, for 95% of the player base seems to chase the meta, then cry when the meta gets nerfed, then the cycle starts all over again.

    I play MTGO(and the physical version). I see the same problem...people building the same decks, always the same builds, over and over again. 95% of people with a toolkit for a million different builds all playing the same 20 builds. The problem is that the majority of people aren't interested in building something unique, they want to be "the best", as if that means anything.

    I don't know about that. After all, we're limit to what we can do by what ZOS gives us.

    When Morrowind was released, I wanted to build a frost/ice-based warden, kind of like a frost mage in WoW. Well, that wasn't really possible back then, and I haven't looked recently and see if that's possible now. And I mean nothing but frost spells. I don't want to build a magden with 3 frost spells, and then a bunch of other spells/skills to augment his/her skills and/or abilities. I don't want to have to carry a bow if I want to go long ranged, etc.

    Twice I've tried to build a bow-based character, but from level 1 to about level 25 or so, this is (or was) one of the hardest (and least fun) builds to play due to low dps. Plus you always had to carry melee weapons. Well, if I can't kill an enemy with my bow, why play this character?

  • AngryUSAman
    Thorstienn wrote: »
    @AngryUSAman
    Quick note. I suggest morphing Rending Slashes for Blood Craze instead, simply as it gives you a heal for a minute loss of damage, but not super important.

    Re your bars. (of course you can just work towards Alcasts build, but for more versatility/ease with solos)

    Keep deadly cloak on front bar (AoE damage reduction) or replace with Hardened shield in Solo.
    Move Trap beast to back bar in place of Deadly Cloak (useless on Bow Bar/front bar will level DW faster)
    Place/morph to Shrouded Daggers on front bar (this is your DW spammable; for large groups of mobs use Steel Tornado)
    If your Undaunted is lvl 2 you can replace Silver leash with Trapping Webs (morphed to Shadowsilk) as an alternate to Caltrops; if not you can even use Dark Talons as a sort of replacement.

    @Thorstienn So first, I have to assume when you say use Hardened Shield, the ability you're referring to is called Hardened Armor (morph of Spiked Armor), am I right? If yes, then how do these bars look for solo play? abilities without roman numerals are morphed already.

    DW BAR - Hardened Armor, Venemous Claw, Blood Craze, Hidden Blade I, Steel Tornado, DawnBreaker I
    Bow Bar- Endless Hail, Noxious Breath, Poison Injection, Inferno III , Trap Beast, Standard of Might
    Edited by AngryUSAman on May 25, 2018 4:08PM
  • Thorstienn
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    Thorstienn wrote: »
    @AngryUSAman
    Quick note. I suggest morphing Rending Slashes for Blood Craze instead, simply as it gives you a heal for a minute loss of damage, but not super important.

    Re your bars. (of course you can just work towards Alcasts build, but for more versatility/ease with solos)

    Keep deadly cloak on front bar (AoE damage reduction) or replace with Hardened shield in Solo.
    Move Trap beast to back bar in place of Deadly Cloak (useless on Bow Bar/front bar will level DW faster)
    Place/morph to Shrouded Daggers on front bar (this is your DW spammable; for large groups of mobs use Steel Tornado)
    If your Undaunted is lvl 2 you can replace Silver leash with Trapping Webs (morphed to Shadowsilk) as an alternate to Caltrops; if not you can even use Dark Talons as a sort of replacement.

    @Thorstienn So first, I have to assume when you say use Hardened Shield, the ability you're referring to is called Hardened Armor (morph of Spiked Armor), am I right? If yes, then how do these bars look for solo play? abilities without roman numerals are morphed already.

    DW BAR - Hardened Armor, Venemous Claw, Blood Craze, Hidden Blade I, Steel Tornado, DawnBreaker I
    Bow Bar- Endless Hail, Noxious Breath, Poison Injection, Inferno III , Trap Beast, Standard of Might

    Yeah hardened armor. Sorry.

    Bars look good to me. Key is for you to be comfortable with it. Good luck. Have fun with it.
  • DeDumChee
    DeDumChee
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    @DocFrost72
    I’ve started a one handed stamblade build, for RP and normal PvE. This is what I have so far, whatcha think? :3
    http://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=63466
  • AngryUSAman
    So I crafted Hunding's Rage and Night Mother and got my hands on full agility jewelry.. 10 In health 54 in stam 19.7k hp 33k stam. Weapon Crit 45.3% Weapon Damage 2290. It's blue gear with purple jewelry.

    My playstyle with this build has become, apply and maintain a massive round of DoT effects, then put in spam work with shrouded daggers for the kill. I'm practicing weaving a light attack between each ability I use. Adding Hardened Armor and Blood Craze has provided a noticeable survivability increase when running delves by myself or the like.

    I finally got Flawless Dawnbreaker, so there's another 2% extra damage at all times.
    Steel Tornado mops up after Endless Hail + Noxious Breath in aoe situations.

    Skills like Poison Injection, Venemous Claw, and Blood Craze are just part of the dot application rotation and maintaining process the way I play anyway.
  • Madrax573
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    @DocFrost72

    How about a good old traditional style bard? ESO really does seem to want to push you down the specialisation route.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416362/building-my-bard#latest
    I'm a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up!
  • exiars10
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    @Madrax573

    Our great Doctor obviously again have problem with his PC...

    Can you explain what is bard :/?

    If you go hybrid route you obviously need Pelinal's Aptitude set.
    Or just play as a hybrid healer/DD like I do on Sorcerer and mix healing/damage/support abilities. Healers are mostly useless in dungeons anyway. And if you play in Cyrodiil you can go wild. Nobody cares :).

    For the class, I vote for Warden mainly as I play with quasi hybrid tank/DD (OHaS + Ice Staff).

    As posted in your thread, go with Warden - proposed bars:
    1) (double swords) Fetchers Infection - Shimmering Shield - Winter's Revenge - Expansive Frost Cloak - Inner Light // Permafrost*
    2) (restoration staff) Healing Springs - Mutagen - Channeled Acceleration - Blue Betty - Inner Light // Healing Thicket*

    *You can go double Bear and use Necropotence set, then plus Master Architect if you can/want to grind it.

    You queue as a healer - you have heals, great utility, huge ulti regen, and you can do solid damage.

    I know you want stamina abilities, but I would go full magicka. For the sets (if you don't use Bear ulti):
    2x Monster Set + 5x Julianos + 5x Spell Power Cure

    Other way is to play as stamina Warden hybrid healer/DD/utility which I plan to do.
    Edited by exiars10 on May 31, 2018 12:34PM
    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • Madrax573
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    @exiars10

    Thanks for those ideas. I like them a lot.

    An old school bard is a true jack of all trades. They are decent fighters, decent healers and decent tanks. Where they usually excel is in buffs/debuffs and CC.

    I would love to have a true hybrid build and have plenty of abilities to swap and change as the situation required it etc but it seem that the systems in ESO really doesn't want that to happen :(

    I have a Nord magwarden and a Dunmer DK hybrid which are both great fun to play. Been hunting skyshards to get a many abilities from different guilds/skill lines as possible atm and pure PvE for now but I will be doing PvP with them in the future but will rebuild them accordingly.
    I'm a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up!
  • exiars10
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    Yes, just level up as much as abilities you can. There are always abilities which are must have, and which are flexible.

    For the must I would say:
    Inner Light sloted in both bars for additional magicka and constant Major Prophecy.
    Expansive Frost Cloak for you and your group tankiness (Major Ward and Resolve) .
    Blue Betty run always as is source of Major Sorcery and magicka recovery.

    I only posted ultimate (Eternal Guardian as alternative) as flexible.
    But, there is Purge skill in Support (Alliance War) skill line.
    There is a Combat Prayer in Restoration Staff (mostly useless in PUG if group has low DPS).
    You can use Frozen Device to TP enemies to you like a tank.
    You can use Deep Fissure for additional DPS.
    Lotus Blossom is good as your light and heavy attack heals you or nearby ally (for example when you use dual swords).

    If you want hybrid, it's possible even with full attributes in magicka. You use glyphs to have enough health and get acceptable level of stamina.

    1x Molag Kena + 1x monster shoulder + 5x Necropotence + 5x Shacklebreaker

    This setup is weaker than the first one, but you can use stamina abilities, too. You always run double bear obviously because of Necropotence set. For example, you would run dual wield so you can use its abilities. IMO some or all of those are worth: Rending Slashes / Steel Tornado (for execute phase) / Shrouded Daggers.

    So, just proposed skill bars for hybrid:

    1) (double swords) Rending Slashes - Shimmering Shield - Steel Tornado - Expansive Frost Cloak - Inner Light // Eternal Guardian
    2) (restoration staff) Healing Springs - Mutagen - Channeled Acceleration - Bull Netch - Inner Light // Eternal Guardian

    For veteran dungeons, enough :).

    EDIT
    This is how it looks like provisionally in ESO Build Editor with no Mundus and 0 spent CPs. With CP, Mundus and other optimization plus activated buffs, it's much better.
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=65567

    EDIT 2
    I changed Blue Betty to Bull Netch as you gain both Major Sorcery and Brutality.
    Edited by exiars10 on June 1, 2018 11:26AM
    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • Madrax573
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    Nice, I noticed that with either bar activated the weapon damage stat was higher than magic damage even though the magicka stat is almost double!
    I'm a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to keep up!
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    Highelf 2h/resto sorc build
    Charge in and electrocute everything in your path and walk out

    2h is for the rush in
    Resto for heals and shields
    Electric abilities are for frying what around or infront of you.

    I was thinking of 5light 2 heavy maybe?
    And what armor sets exactly too cause I'm still thinking about it what do y'all think?
  • exiars10
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    For PvE I guess? For what type of content? I could try to create you build similar to the above for veteran dungeons and should be enough (not sure for DLC one, except IC).

    And how much CPs you have?

    For overland content, no problem at all.

    For Sorcerer you have class shield and healing. No need for Restoration staff but if you want to be a hybrid DD/healer...
    Edited by exiars10 on June 2, 2018 9:05PM
    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • Thorstienn
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    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    Highelf 2h/resto sorc build
    Charge in and electrocute everything in your path and walk out

    2h is for the rush in
    Resto for heals and shields
    Electric abilities are for frying what around or infront of you.

    I was thinking of 5light 2 heavy maybe?
    And what armor sets exactly too cause I'm still thinking about it what do y'all think?

    As @exiars10 said... need a little more information of what you want. Are you sold on the 2h? Do you want a hybrid? Is resto required, or u just want a shield/buff/heal bar?
    Simply... you can use streak(?) As a sorc to close distance, and just be pure magicka DPS
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    exiars10 wrote: »
    For PvE I guess? For what type of content? I could try to create you build similar to the above for veteran dungeons and should be enough (not sure for DLC one, except IC).

    And how much CPs you have?

    For overland content, no problem at all.

    For Sorcerer you have class shield and healing. No need for Restoration staff but if you want to be a hybrid DD/healer...

    Oh see I was thinking resto because of heals and shields , didn't think the sorc tree was that good.. pve and pvp, yea I'm dead set on the 2h it's just that I want to keep my magic.. the whole Thor aspect I guess you could say that's why I was saying high elf because of all the magic damage he can put out. I'm at 171 cp.
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    Thorstienn wrote: »
    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    Highelf 2h/resto sorc build
    Charge in and electrocute everything in your path and walk out

    2h is for the rush in
    Resto for heals and shields
    Electric abilities are for frying what around or infront of you.

    I was thinking of 5light 2 heavy maybe?
    And what armor sets exactly too cause I'm still thinking about it what do y'all think?

    As @exiars10 said... need a little more information of what you want. Are you sold on the 2h? Do you want a hybrid? Is resto required, or u just want a shield/buff/heal bar?
    Simply... you can use streak(?) As a sorc to close distance, and just be pure magicka DPS

    I don't feel like streak is all that.. Yea I'm dead set on 2h and being a hybrid not really I want to keep my magic so I'm guessing desto back bar? Front bar? Having 1 ability from 2h doesn't make it a hybrid when it's a fan closer... right?
  • Thorstienn
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    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    Thorstienn wrote: »
    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    Highelf 2h/resto sorc build
    Charge in and electrocute everything in your path and walk out

    2h is for the rush in
    Resto for heals and shields
    Electric abilities are for frying what around or infront of you.

    I was thinking of 5light 2 heavy maybe?
    And what armor sets exactly too cause I'm still thinking about it what do y'all think?

    As @exiars10 said... need a little more information of what you want. Are you sold on the 2h? Do you want a hybrid? Is resto required, or u just want a shield/buff/heal bar?
    Simply... you can use streak(?) As a sorc to close distance, and just be pure magicka DPS

    I don't feel like streak is all that.. Yea I'm dead set on 2h and being a hybrid not really I want to keep my magic so I'm guessing desto back bar? Front bar? Having 1 ability from 2h doesn't make it a hybrid when it's a fan closer... right?

    Just using the one ability doesn't make it a hybrid, no... However sustain could be a problem. Heavy attack with a 2h return stamina, whereas all the cool lightning stuff uses magicka, and the one thing sorc don't have is great sustain tools. Dark deal kinda works, but has a cast time (and pretty sure costs health, but not 100%)

    Can def work on something though
  • exiars10
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    @xKaSx7

    PvP
    I only play in Vivec and I never played BGs nor non-CP Cyrodiil so I can't help there.
    Almost everything is viable in PvP as long as you know what are you doing. Hybrids are boosted in Summers and are very good. But you have big problem for CP Cyrodiil - you lack CPs and that is a problem for harder PvE content, too. CP is big part of increased DPS.
    Don't get me wrong - you can play CP Vivec and be totally fine - join zerg, and don't rush (or you'll get rekt), use ranged abilities, and have siege weapons as you can earn o a lot of AP from defending keeps/outposts.

    I created PvE build - trash fight build i.e. for overland content (you can farm dolmens and public dungeons easily solo) - true test is soloing around Spellscar in zone where are Storm Attronachs. If you can pull 2 groups and kill them you are fine for version I and neutral veteran group dungeons. Normal group dungeons shouldn't be a problem.

    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=65858

    Proposed gear
    Everything should be purple (even blue is fine) except weapons - they have to be golden always or you lose a lot of damage.

    Monster set
    2x Slimecraw - you use it for Minor Berserk.
    Alternative - 2x Ilambris if you want lightning show all over the place :). I personally really like that monster set when you use lightning staff. Effect is really cool.
    You can easily farm both sets so you can switch between them whenever you want. Only testing on dummy can show which gives you more DPS (should be Slimecraw).

    Primary set
    4x Pelinal's Aptitude (3x armor + 2x weapons) - most hybrid builds use it because of it's 5th bonus.

    Secondary set
    5x Armor of Veiled Heritance (3x jewelry + 2x armor) - this is heavy set, so you are a bit tankier. You can easily farm purple jewelry at Auridon dolmens, and you can try to farm armor or just buy it. You better are a in trade guild so you can sell all jewelry you don't need from Auridon dolmen runs. Elegance rings have relative high demand especially purple one (above average price) at least on PC as that set is used in PvP AFAIK.

    Alternative - Ravager. Its 5th bonus is ~65% higher, but it only process from melee damage. I think it should process from Brawler bleed but I am not sure.

    What I know is that uptime of Veiled Heritance should be close to 100% as long as your DoTs are running constantly.

    Proposed skills
    There are several possible combos. Some skills are must have, some are flexiable.

    What is a must have?
    1) Critical Rush - Brawler - Inner Light // Dawnbreaker
    2) Elemental Blockade - Power Surge - Inner Light // Elemental Rage

    You have 4 flexible slots depending on your style of playing. I posted one possible version.

    If you still interested, I'll explain why I slotted those, how you can play and what are possible alternative abilities.
    For PvP you need mostly different abilities.
    Edited by exiars10 on June 3, 2018 11:08AM
    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    @exiars10
    Wow you just did all of that?? That very amazing and very appreciated!! So you say hybrids will be in summers? Yea I need to get my cp.
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    Thorstienn wrote: »
    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    Thorstienn wrote: »
    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    Highelf 2h/resto sorc build
    Charge in and electrocute everything in your path and walk out

    2h is for the rush in
    Resto for heals and shields
    Electric abilities are for frying what around or infront of you.

    I was thinking of 5light 2 heavy maybe?
    And what armor sets exactly too cause I'm still thinking about it what do y'all think?

    As @exiars10 said... need a little more information of what you want. Are you sold on the 2h? Do you want a hybrid? Is resto required, or u just want a shield/buff/heal bar?
    Simply... you can use streak(?) As a sorc to close distance, and just be pure magicka DPS

    I don't feel like streak is all that.. Yea I'm dead set on 2h and being a hybrid not really I want to keep my magic so I'm guessing desto back bar? Front bar? Having 1 ability from 2h doesn't make it a hybrid when it's a fan closer... right?

    Just using the one ability doesn't make it a hybrid, no... However sustain could be a problem. Heavy attack with a 2h return stamina, whereas all the cool lightning stuff uses magicka, and the one thing sorc don't have is great sustain tools. Dark deal kinda works, but has a cast time (and pretty sure costs health, but not 100%)

    Can def work on something though

    All this is making me think high elf isn't the way to go.. yes the damage would be great but wouldn't dark elf be good too? Just because of the stamina? Dodge rolling, running , blocking ? And at the end you get that 3 or 4% shock passive maybe it's even 2% shiz maybe even a fire staff just to help out with damage. Just throwing this out there. I wonder if the sustain would be better with the right armor adding the passives from the sorc tree and darkelf passives? And maybe even the fire staff passive? And now I'm thinking just go with a stam build because this is complicated and fusturating even some of the 2h passives are great.. I just wanted to Trump some of these cookie cutter builds and have this great idea.. this is for you too @exiars10 ..
    Even solo overworld content most irksome bosses / hold my own PvP. I guess this is something way out of the ordinary and eso is just stick with this one build and that's it. Am I wrong?
    Edited by xKaSx7 on June 3, 2018 12:56PM
  • exiars10
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    You on consoles are getting patch in two days. Start farming jewelry after patch so you can sell them to other people for decon. There is going to be big price increase in jewelry as it happened on PC as many players are trying to level up jewelry as fastest as possible.

    Hybrids are boosted because:
    1) 2H, bows and staves are counted for two slots.
    2) Jewelry crafting so a) you can change jewelry traits and improve its quality and b) you can combine two craftable sets.

    Point 2) is only relevant if you have a lot of gold or you are master crafter... But in several months you should have enough gold so you can supplement Pelinal's with another set for PvP like Shacklebreaker or something else which doesn't require a lot of money.

    Also check build on link as I posted CP distribution, too, skills (I checked possible, too) and passives you need.

    Rotation for overland content i.e. farming dolmens, public dungeons and Spellscar :)
    Always before fight activate Power Surge - it gives you both Major Sorcery and Brutality and self-heal when you do critical damage. It should be constantly up and it has a long uptime (33 sec).
    Use Critical Rush for gap close and hit as much mob as you can with Brawler - it gives you shield - the more enemies hit, the stronger shield.
    Switch bar and drop Blockade. Bleed from Brawler and Blockade should process 100% Veiled Heritance 5th bonus (weapon damage buff).
    Use Haunting Curse. Always use light attacks in between.
    Switch bar and use Endless Fury as execute on enemies under 20%. ---> this is the most popular kill steal ability in PvP :p and is going to be your prime source of AP in PvP in open combat ;).
    Repeat rotation.

    Lightning Staff > Fire Staff

    Race
    Play as you want - I have Bosmer magicka Sorcerer (as you can see in my signature) which has zero passives for magicka, and I hate Dunmer btw ;) so Altmer for me, ha ha. Lore wise, Altmer are Sorcerers.
    Also you can rise up you stamina with glyphs, so don't worry. I went with almost all magicka glyphs as you need 2 stamina abilities for PvE and stamina abilities scale with weapon damage more compared to magicka abilities which scale more with max magicka.

    Watch this video as Kristofer is the best known PvP hybrid player/theorycrafter to give you ideas.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyQzfuqLyfU

    I would concentrate on PvE for now so you get your gear, earn more CPs (getting to CP300 is the most important) and learn abilities and rotation. Play PvP in between. In the end, your skill is what matter the most.

    P. S.
    With my proposed build you can use Restoration Staff on back bar and with 2-3 abilities you can queue as healer in dungeons and still do damage from your front bar. I play as hybrid healer/DD in dungeons as being a pure healer is massive waste of time and pointless. Trials are completely different beast but I don't play trials anyway...
    Edited by exiars10 on June 3, 2018 1:39PM
    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • AngryUSAman
    @DocFrost72 @Thorstienn and to anyone who knows how to tank well with warden and wants to share

    Hi again guys. I have rolled an Argonian Warden to be the tank in my regular group (we actually haven't started yet). I have a few questions about the right skills to choose, attribute spread, champion points, and starter gear.

    - Which weapons? I had thought that I wanted to level by soloing, but I'll probably just get on a dolmen train group, so should I use a ranged weapon of some kind with one skill from every line I want to level? What about sword and shield skills? Do I want to fill my bar with sword and shield skills with 1 skill from every other line? My idea here is that my tanking will come online earlier if I simply use Sword/Shield abilities on the bar the whole time I do dolmens. I'm thinking that I'll Sword/shield x2 for both bars at max level.

    -Which crafted sets? Right now I'm doing 5 pc Hundings 4 pc Night mother at level 4 with training x7 + training x2 weapons, but that is because I thought originally about doing a stamina dps build just to level up with. I'm not sure which sets to make, but I have 6 traits on most pieces of light, medium, and heavy available to craft.

    -Stamina, Magicka, Health? I'm not sure what the optimal setup is for the attributes when it comes to Warden tanks.

    -Champion Points? I have about 222 of them right now and I'm not sure which way to distribute them for tanking.


    -Bars? So, other than taking the starting 3 warden class abilities from each school respectively, I haven't chosen any skills yet. I will be doing some skyshard collecting to facilitate distributing points early. I'm not at all familiar with tanking or warden in ESO because I've only played dps builds until now. I want this character to be the main tank in a 4 player dungeon group. He will have a healer and 2 dps supporting him.

    -Request- please list the original ability as well as the morph to take if you can remember both as it will make it a lot easier for me to find the right setup. Thanks in advance.
  • Thorstienn
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    @AngyUSAman
    If your going to level with dolmens, stick with hundings and Night mothers, but craft 5 heavy 1 light 1 medium. 1st skill from each warden line is good and first 2 from 1 hand and shield. I recommend eqiuping a lightning staff for use on the dolmens (can be used on endgame tanks to apply AoE crushing enchant).
    As far as your endgame target, you can't go wrong with Woeler (just search on Google to get his site.), and in time you can adjust to your playstyle.
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    exiars10 wrote: »
    You on consoles are getting patch in two days. Start farming jewelry after patch so you can sell them to other people for decon. There is going to be big price increase in jewelry as it happened on PC as many players are trying to level up jewelry as fastest as possible.

    Hybrids are boosted because:
    1) 2H, bows and staves are counted for two slots.
    2) Jewelry crafting so a) you can change jewelry traits and improve its quality and b) you can combine two craftable sets.

    Point 2) is only relevant if you have a lot of gold or you are master crafter... But in several months you should have enough gold so you can supplement Pelinal's with another set for PvP like Shacklebreaker or something else which doesn't require a lot of money.

    Also check build on link as I posted CP distribution, too, skills (I checked possible, too) and passives you need.

    Rotation for overland content i.e. farming dolmens, public dungeons and Spellscar :)
    Always before fight activate Power Surge - it gives you both Major Sorcery and Brutality and self-heal when you do critical damage. It should be constantly up and it has a long uptime (33 sec).
    Use Critical Rush for gap close and hit as much mob as you can with Brawler - it gives you shield - the more enemies hit, the stronger shield.
    Switch bar and drop Blockade. Bleed from Brawler and Blockade should process 100% Veiled Heritance 5th bonus (weapon damage buff).
    Use Haunting Curse. Always use light attacks in between.
    Switch bar and use Endless Fury as execute on enemies under 20%. ---> this is the most popular kill steal ability in PvP :p and is going to be your prime source of AP in PvP in open combat ;).
    Repeat rotation.

    Lightning Staff > Fire Staff

    Race
    Play as you want - I have Bosmer magicka Sorcerer (as you can see in my signature) which has zero passives for magicka, and I hate Dunmer btw ;) so Altmer for me, ha ha. Lore wise, Altmer are Sorcerers.
    Also you can rise up you stamina with glyphs, so don't worry. I went with almost all magicka glyphs as you need 2 stamina abilities for PvE and stamina abilities scale with weapon damage more compared to magicka abilities which scale more with max magicka.

    Watch this video as Kristofer is the best known PvP hybrid player/theorycrafter to give you ideas.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyQzfuqLyfU

    I would concentrate on PvE for now so you get your gear, earn more CPs (getting to CP300 is the most important) and learn abilities and rotation. Play PvP in between. In the end, your skill is what matter the most.

    P. S.
    With my proposed build you can use Restoration Staff on back bar and with 2-3 abilities you can queue as healer in dungeons and still do damage from your front bar. I play as hybrid healer/DD in dungeons as being a pure healer is massive waste of time and pointless. Trials are completely different beast but I don't play trials anyway...

    So I made my highelf now.. what should I do with my cp.. where ecaxtly.. should I just do it like a regular mag sorc? Basically make sure I have most of my points in shock damage?
  • exiars10
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    xKaSx7 wrote: »
    So I made my highelf now.. what should I do with my cp.. where ecaxtly.. should I just do it like a regular mag sorc? Basically make sure I have most of my points in shock damage?
    Check link:
    http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=65858
    You have two tabs on right - SKILLS and CHAMPION POINTS so you can see how to spent CPs. You can click on everything.

    And yes, spend CPs as for regular magicka Sorcerer. Alcast has posted how to spend 300 CPs and later 750. It's good. You can always redistribute CPs for some gold once you start to tailor CPs to your playstyle. But for leveling and until you settle, use Alcast.
    https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-sorcerer-build-pve/#content5

    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • xKaSx7
    xKaSx7
    @exiars10
    I had to go back to darkelf.. the extra stamina is just worth it. The way I play in up in the action casting my spells blocking dodging running around it just helps but I have some armor sets im going to try for more sustain and damage and another note from all passives now from all the trees darkelf is just 2 or 3 % behind high elf with shock damage and my other bar with a fire staff I can use 1 or 2 abilities uping my damage some more. I'll have this figured out eventually lol.
  • DawnsLight65
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    OK, @DocFrost72 I am so new to this game, but this is what I am aiming for.. A Khajit Stamblade, able to do quests and PVE Solo, without relying on food buffs.

    This is what I have now: I am level 21. My gear is also 20-21, heavy, with stam boosts, with the Warrior Poets Cuirass (health) on at the moment, because its the best thing at my level I have found/been able to produce. (I'm leveling blacksmith, enchantments too-I like to build my own weapons/armor) 1 medium belt, with Stam Boost. However, if I find something in the world better than what I have, you bet I'm equipping it since my blacksmithing skills are not as developed as I'd like yet. Most points in Stam-15, some health-5, Magicka-7

    I am dual blade primary, level 28, with bow secondary level 12. I have all the heavy armor passives I can get up to my level, except Juggernaut. The same for my Khajit (Nimble). Slotted Skills: DB: Swallow Soul, Veiled Strike, Bloodthirst, Whirlwind, Consuming Trap. (Swallow Soul and Consuming Trap both seem to be REALLY good at knocking down health of enemies, at least for me) BOW: Swallow Soul, Consuming Trap, Snipe, Volley (not full on Bow, because 1) not sure what is truly effective 2) using points elsewhere) No ultimates slotted yet.

    I generally use potions for in-fight regeneration, and don't use food buffs much because I was trying to create a character that doesnt NEED food buffs to fight PVE effectively (RPG days). Tho that is probably noob thinking, cause when I get to the bosses on a quest, I die alot and have to come back after leveling more, even if the quest npc enemies were very easy to kill up to then.

    So, what do I need to aim for as I am leveling up this character? (I dont have my character in front of me, so I might be off on attribute levels by one or so)
    Ra'avi Ahjonihr Khajit Stamblade, Level 1500Master ThiefCrafter and ExplorerHero of the Dominion, Pact, and CovenantMember of the DragonguardFriend to Razum-darFavored of Azura
    'It does not matter to M'aiq how strong or smart one is. It only matters what one can do.' -M'aiq the Liar
  • GaM3rGA1
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    Trying to find information on having Netches and Burning on a non pet sorc. Right now im running illambris netches and jullianos.
  • Thorstienn
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    @GaM3rGA1 booths sets can be very strong on a non-pet sorc, but have some requirements.
    For netches touch you have to run 2 lightning staves and maximum shock damage skills, otherwise Julianos is better.
    For BSW you want to run that only on your front bar (ideally with a maelstrom staff on your back bar), if it's running on both bars, due to its downtime, Julainos will be better.
    Hope that helps.
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