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My new BiS build for mag dk if this new patch goes live

Nelson_Rebel
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Respec all skill points all into crafting


That is all.


P.S.- @Wrobel

I'm thoroughly impressed, I did not think you could decimate a class so completely and with so much bias as you have done to the magic Dk spec.

Bravo, truly.

Yours with warm seething hatred
-Rebel
Edited by Nelson_Rebel on January 26, 2018 12:34AM
  • krathos
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    If only battle roar restored ancestor silk
    Flapjack Palmdale
    <ANIMOSITY>

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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    krathos wrote: »
    If only battle roar restored ancestor silk

    Lolol


    Let's get a passive for extra material return haha


    then subsequently nerf it to be less than the base level material return for everyone else


    #inthemindofZoS
    Edited by Nelson_Rebel on January 26, 2018 1:14AM
  • Morgul667
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    krathos wrote: »
    If only battle roar restored ancestor silk

    lol that actually made me laugh :)
  • Draxys
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    Nah, 5 piece warden
    2013

    rip decibel
  • Bighanson
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    Respec all skill points all into crafting
    *signed*

    Yours with warm seething hatred
    -Bighanson
  • firedrgn
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    Maybe they want people to play warden
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    DK is the worst crafter though. It takes too long to get to stations. I will die of old age before I can actually craft due to slowness.
    Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel
  • Durham
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    Respec all skill points all into crafting


    That is all.


    P.S.- @Wrobel

    I'm thoroughly impressed, I did not think you could decimate a class so completely and with so much bias as you have done to the magic Dk spec.

    Bravo, truly.

    Yours with warm seething hatred
    -Rebel

    Nah still worse to be a Stam DK in pvp
    PVP DEADWAIT
    PVP The Unguildables
  • Gnortranermara
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    DK: the only thing Wrobel hates more than Templar.
  • Kilandros
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    krathos wrote: »
    If only battle roar restored ancestor silk

    LOL
    Invictus
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    Sias - Sorcerer / Prefect
    Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.

    DK IS NOT JUST A TANK CLASS. #PLAYTHEWAYYOUWANT
  • Epicasballs
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    This will be a buff if you have never enjoyed playing a MagDK.
  • helios777
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    Bighanson wrote: »
    Respec all skill points all into crafting
    *signed*

    Yours with warm seething hatred
    -Bighanson

    *signed

    Yours with warm seething hatred
    -Helios777
    Grand Warlord HAXERUS. One of the last OG Mag DKs.
    Mag DK through Thick and Thin.
    Retired from Cyrodiil until they finally decide to fix the performance, which is probably never.
  • coplannb16_ESO
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    haha, my mDK is already my main crafter...

    this will be a buff if you payed for Morrowind and can switch to Warden

    p.s.
    I will spam the *** out of people with my undodgeable birds. Just to annoy them. Seems soo many were salty that Power Lash was useful...
    Edited by coplannb16_ESO on January 26, 2018 6:47AM
    max level: mDK, stamBlade, stamSorc, magPlar, mDen, stamDen, magBlade, stamCro
    ESO+
    # of mules: 4 (FULL)
    maxed bank: FULL -_-
    Stop the grind! Get rid of stupid events and daily-quest gallore. Get rid of "have a chance of 1 in a million to get a piece of 1 in 30 to get a stupid motif or pet... wtf..."
    And at this point just remove all classes and have everyone choose their set of skills. then balance accordingly to skills always used vs. skills never used.
  • Subversus
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    This is funny cause dk is also the worst crafter out of the 5 classes :lol:
  • Ladislao
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    A typical example of a player who does not want to adapt, therefore jumps from class to class. Keep it up! :)
    Everything is viable
  • Jawasa
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    For pve dk maybe. PVP dk there is no nerf tbh. One buff on amount of powerlashes, fix off wings and then a nerf/fix on powerlash.
  • Grabmoore
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    Jawasa wrote: »
    For pve dk maybe. PVP dk there is no nerf tbh. One buff on amount of powerlashes, fix off wings and then a nerf/fix on powerlash.

    The niche, that is PvP, is not relevant to us endgame PvEers. The class is unplayably dead and in a worse state than magWarden.

    You will always find a way in pvp. This change must not happen!
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  • Xundiin
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    Respec all skill points all into crafting


    That is all.


    P.S.- @Wrobel

    I'm thoroughly impressed, I did not think you could decimate a class so completely and with so much bias as you have done to the magic Dk spec.

    Bravo, truly.

    Yours with warm seething hatred
    -Rebel

    Now you know how Stam Sorcs felt for a loooong time.
    #SavePlayer1
  • Thannazzar
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/profile/Wrobel

    How about when you demo the new dungeons on esolive, run them hard mode for us with 4 mag dks and no dev hacks!

  • DKsUnite
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    krathos wrote: »
    If only battle roar restored ancestor silk

    died
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  • Loc2262
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    This will be a buff if you need a free character slot, to get that Level-Up-Advisor-Only horse and storage chest and other stuff!
    Kind regards,
    Frank
    PC-EU, 12 chars, 900+CP
  • coplannb16_ESO
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    Ladislao wrote: »
    A typical example of a player who does not want to adapt, therefore jumps from class to class. Keep it up! :)

    A typical example of a player who generalises and makes assumptions based on questionable knowledge. I for my part main mDK since beta.
    Jawasa wrote: »
    For pve dk maybe. PVP dk there is no nerf tbh. One buff on amount of powerlashes, fix off wings and then a nerf/fix on powerlash.

    There is no nerf in PvP? Oh, I didnt know I could still keep off-balance up 100% of the time in PvP and Power Lash without cooldown or having it evaded by everyone and their mother.
    -_-

    edit: and to clarify [snip] I can do exactly that on live. Engage me at range I reflect, engage me in melee, have fun standing in my Storm Blockade while beeing keept off-balance by my charged lightning staff + shock enchant while I whip the hell out of you.
    basically that is the class philosophy, stand your ground class and all... well, no more.


    [Edited to remove inappropriate comment]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 26, 2018 4:02PM
    max level: mDK, stamBlade, stamSorc, magPlar, mDen, stamDen, magBlade, stamCro
    ESO+
    # of mules: 4 (FULL)
    maxed bank: FULL -_-
    Stop the grind! Get rid of stupid events and daily-quest gallore. Get rid of "have a chance of 1 in a million to get a piece of 1 in 30 to get a stupid motif or pet... wtf..."
    And at this point just remove all classes and have everyone choose their set of skills. then balance accordingly to skills always used vs. skills never used.
  • Yngol
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    Lmfao I guess mag dk's will be back to having 35k health and wearing duroks+fassalas; spamming talons in 48man groups
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    Ladislao wrote: »
    A typical example of a player who does not want to adapt, therefore jumps from class to class. Keep it up! :)

    A typical example of a player who generalises and makes assumptions based on questionable knowledge. I for my part main mDK since beta.
    Jawasa wrote: »
    For pve dk maybe. PVP dk there is no nerf tbh. One buff on amount of powerlashes, fix off wings and then a nerf/fix on powerlash.

    There is no nerf in PvP? Oh, I didnt know I could still keep off-balance up 100% of the time in PvP and Power Lash without cooldown or having it evaded by everyone and their mother.
    -_-

    edit: and to clarify [snip] I can do exactly that on live. Engage me at range I reflect, engage me in melee, have fun standing in my Storm Blockade while beeing keept off-balance by my charged lightning staff + shock enchant while I whip the hell out of you.
    basically that is the class philosophy, stand your ground class and all... well, no more.

    Your build did get nerfed, there is no way around that.

    But your build would also have been made suboptimal if Power Lash was spammable (because Off Balance is no longer consumed, you just Fossilize->FL->PL->PL->PL->PL.... no need to proc glyphs or cast WoE or anything).

    It's unfortunate, I hope there'll be some cool lightning staff DK builds in the future, or people find ways to make it useful again. I always thought they added a nice alternative to other DK builds and contributed to build diversity.


    You needn't worry about "everyone evading" your PLs though, only stamina builds will attempt to do that and you can still land them if you time them right. I'm landing around 50-60% of PLs on PTS currently against stamina builds and that number can be improved (still getting used to the change, Fossilize->FL->PL is a bit too ingrained in muscle memory :lol: ).
    Yngol wrote: »
    Lmfao I guess mag dk's will be back to having 35k health and wearing duroks+fassalas; spamming talons in 48man groups

    I'll be doing exactly what I did last patch on my mDK, except that dodge rollers will die slightly slower & block/dmg shield builds will die slightly faster and survivability against them will be better (thanks to 2x more frequent Power Lashes & Off Balance that isn't consumed immediately).


    I don't know what all this fuss is about, maybe someone will explain it to me.

    [Edited for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 26, 2018 4:03PM
  • pod88kk
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    Respec all skill points all into crafting


    That is all.


    P.S.- @Wrobel

    I'm thoroughly impressed, I did not think you could decimate a class so completely and with so much bias as you have done to the magic Dk spec.

    Bravo, truly.

    Yours with warm seething hatred
    -Rebel

    This made me lol in work
  • Bighanson
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    I don't know what all this fuss is about, maybe someone will explain it to me.

    Its about sustain in PvE.
  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Ladislao wrote: »
    A typical example of a player who does not want to adapt, therefore jumps from class to class. Keep it up! :)

    Yes let's adapt on a class that AFTER morrowind nerfed all sustain and hit DK's the hardest we then SUBSEQUENTLY received


    Battle roar massive nerf our ONLY form of sustain

    Helping hands nerf

    Petrify Nerf our ONLY CC which is also SINGLE target short range

    The nerfs to Roots for a cooldown on all roots now

    And now we further get Off balance nerfs, along with a Cooldown on power lash

    POWER LASH which has additonal prerequisites of; first needing off-balance (now nerfed), talons which GIVE off-balance require you then to FIRST hit a normal flame lash, then the SECOND flame lash will be the proced power lash

    An any point in this process a simple dodge roll nullifies this entire process, or a simple cleanse for a proced skill requiring 3 different effects before it even procs


    So gtfo
    Edited by Nelson_Rebel on January 26, 2018 3:19PM
  • Vosital
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    How is your guyses Mag NB's going? Apparently they are the bee's knees in 2018. Maybe one of these years will be the year of the DK. 2020, Maybe?
  • Jawasa
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    @Grabmoore but Thats the off balance change Thats the problem.

    Lightning staff dk's got nerfed Most other mdk builds are as strong as before against mot other players. Weaker against some medium builds and stronger against builds that cant dodge often.
  • BroanBeast1215
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    lulz magdk mains on suicide watch
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