Add Meaning to the Formal Emperor title.

TheValar85

I have seen a lot of discussion on the forum, mostly said the formal emp title basicly means nothing. Well i have a solution to fix that.

Give us Back the Formal Emperor Passives. I have no clue why they were cuted out of the game, but seeing how op and broke many thing in the game a fromal emp passive skill lines at least give a chance against OP DK zerg fests. (at least in Shor)

It was a realy bad idea to remove the formal emp passives. It will also give a chance to compete formal emperors against current emperors. Put it back please. Inlcuding the 1% all stats as well.
There are alot of people who worked their ass out in cyrodil to become an emperor, and i am not talking about the EMP boost zergfest for sallers.

DoctorESO

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Ackwalan

You do realize, "the EMP boost zergfest for sallers" would benefit from this, even more then people that earned Emp legit.

gabriebe

Formal emperors? Like in gowns and tuxedos? That'd be cool.

As an April 1st gag, ZOS should give back everyone with a former emp title the full powers back for a day and watch hell unleash in Cyrodiil.

TheValar85

gabriebe wrote: »

Formal emperors? Like in gowns and tuxedos? That'd be cool.

As an April 1st gag, ZOS should give back everyone with a former emp title the full powers back for a day and watch hell unleash in Cyrodiil.

Its already hell in cyrodill so, couldn't been worst anyway.

kyle.wilson

TheValar85 wrote: »

I have seen a lot of discussion on the forum, mostly said the formal emp title basicly means nothing. Well i have a solution to fix that.

Give us Back the Formal Emperor Passives. I have no clue why they were cuted out of the game, but seeing how op and broke many thing in the game a fromal emp passive skill lines at least give a chance against OP DK zerg fests. (at least in Shor)

It was a realy bad idea to remove the formal emp passives. It will also give a chance to compete formal emperors against current emperors. Put it back please. Inlcuding the 1% all stats as well.
There are alot of people who worked their ass out in cyrodil to become an emperor, and i am not talking about the EMP boost zergfest for sallers.

Considering the number of people that abused the system to emp on dead servers, zos did the right thing to get rid of the former emp passives. In reality, anyone that got emp that way should be too embarrassed to rock the former emp title. Because I see a lot of terribad players wearing it.
It punishes the players that only fights on the most populated campaigns that rarely emp.

NirnStorm

Formal Emp? Really? I was certain this is a troll post at first.

And to the point. ZOS had a real reason to remove the FORMER emp passives. Back in the days when we didn't have only one large campaign to play on and guilds actually spread across multiple campaigns, the higher tier PvP guilds used to pick a campaign and pass emp around between their guild members to make sure every player on their groups had these added passive so they have an advantage over other groups they fight. To prevent that behaviour ZOS removed the passives.

Today every other zergling has a former emp title they got on an unpopulated campaign. The title already lost all meaning. I see no point in bringing these passives back if all they will do is reward the players who can take 2 days off work to farm AP and apply to basically half the population in Cyrodiil.

Morgul667

Troll ?

Knootewoot

Wahahaha

If I see someone with the title "Former emperor", there is no respect. Some really worked hard for it and deserve it. But most of them got it because their guild/alliance handed it out to all their member to be sure everyone in the raid got the passives to roflstomp other groups. Some people even bought the title for millions.

No, the emperor should be strong. But former emperors should be just like the other peasants (like me) they play with.

TheValar85

You dont have to be rude with me siriusly. the pvp community is already way toxicated as it shouldn't be, i just came up with an idea to give back a meaning of the title. If you have better idea goahed post it here. But dont come form me in that way as you did, because i meant no disrespect nor offending anyone with the idea.

NirnStorm

I honestly don't think there is any good way to bring meaning to titles like Former Emp or GO until ZOS comes up with a way to measure success in PvP in a way that isn't as easily exploitable by guilds or nolifes as AP currently is.

gepe87

Unfortunatly being Emp doesn't mean capable leadership.

NightbladeMechanics

Former Emperor means nothing in the eyes of the community because emperorship is too easy to get, not because it doesn’t give combat stats.

Also the existence of former emp passives caused issues in PvE. Zos won’t, nor should they, reinstate the passives.

Derra

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Former Emperor means nothing in the eyes of the community because emperorship is too easy to get, not because it doesn’t give combat stats.

Also the existence of former emp passives caused issues in PvE. Zos won’t, nor should they, reinstate the passives.

Simply make them only work in cyrodiil.

Beardimus

Passives were removed as it wasn't healthy and led to nefarious behavior to get guildies the passives.

There already is enough odd behavior going on round Emp, seen it myself just this weekend on a quiet campaign.

I do concur that more should be made of Emperor, BUT more important than that is making more of the getting of it. Right now its a no life challenge pretty much.

Be good if they added more things to PvP like it, more mechanics, also to appeal to the more casual player who may only get on one big slot a week.

Adding more 'stuff' to Emp in its current state just wouldn't go well.

Merlin13KAGL

TheValar85 wrote: »

You dont have to be rude with me siriusly. the pvp community is already way toxicated as it shouldn't be, i just came up with an idea to give back a meaning of the title. If you have better idea goahed post it here. But dont come form me in that way as you did, because i meant no disrespect nor offending anyone with the idea.

Here's an idea. Maybe it could give you a title others could see? Something like "Former Emperor," and that could be good enough?

If you want to get down to brass tacks, you got dethroned. Why would losing your kingdom to the enemy grant a buff to any non-retirement-related passive?

Vapirko

Sorry but no way. There are way too many *** emp carries. We do not need mindless zergs running around all with former emp passives. You run into former emps who go down like a sack of potatoes even to me, someone who isn’t even that great playing on a tethered 3G mobile connection from Asia on NA. I’m not making excuses for my playing, merely trying to drive home the level of players achieving emp and these are absolutely the people who would band together to create former emp zergs, no thanks.

technohic

So we want extra stats for meaningless title? Umm no

dotme

TheValar85 wrote: »

There are alot of people who worked their ass out in cyrodil to become an emperor, and i am not talking about the EMP boost zergfest for sallers.

Problem is, they would get the passives too. I think all former Emps should put that pretty throne from the achievement furnishings vendor in their home, and sit on it

VaranisArano

When you PVP in a single campaign for a while, you learn exactly who earned their "Former Emperor" title. Not everyone wearing the title is a great emperor, but the ones who earned it will kick your butt whether they wear the title or not.

Lucky28

I'd say give the previous former emp passives to Grand overlords. GO while easier to get now than it was previously due to the AP changes, still requires a significant time investment to acquire. I think the title "Grand overlord" deserves a passive more than "former emp" if anything.

whatever the case. something cool and exclusive should come with getting GO.

ToRelax

I'm still not certain whether this is a troll thread or not...

Lucky28 wrote: »

I'd say give the previous former emp passives to Grand overlords. GO while easier to get now than it was previously due to the AP changes, still requires a significant time investment to acquire. I think the title "Grand overlord" deserves a passive more than "former emp" if anything.

whatever the case. something cool and exclusive should come with getting GO.

Something like a piece of furniture with a cool lighting effect?

White wabbit

Should change the title to former emperor of boosted campaign

Lucky28

ToRelax wrote: »

I'm still not certain whether this is a troll thread or not...

Lucky28 wrote: »

I'd say give the previous former emp passives to Grand overlords. GO while easier to get now than it was previously due to the AP changes, still requires a significant time investment to acquire. I think the title "Grand overlord" deserves a passive more than "former emp" if anything.

whatever the case. something cool and exclusive should come with getting GO.

Something like a piece of furniture with a cool lighting effect?

a mount would be better suited since Cyrodiil is a horse simulator and all.

a Chicken mount for AD
a house cat mount for DC
and a Dragon mount for EP

i'm not bias i swear.

Seriously tho something cool to represent the title and the faction

Jake1576

TheValar85 wrote: »

I have seen a lot of discussion on the forum, mostly said the formal emp title basicly means nothing. Well i have a solution to fix that.

Give us Back the Formal Emperor Passives. I have no clue why they were cuted out of the game, but seeing how op and broke many thing in the game a fromal emp passive skill lines at least give a chance against OP DK zerg fests. (at least in Shor)

It was a realy bad idea to remove the formal emp passives. It will also give a chance to compete formal emperors against current emperors. Put it back please. Inlcuding the 1% all stats as well.
There are alot of people who worked their ass out in cyrodil to become an emperor, and i am not talking about the EMP boost zergfest for sallers.

Only if grand overlords get a bonus also reaching level 50 in pvp is basically meaningless and should come with some benefits

technohic

Jake1576 wrote: »

TheValar85 wrote: »

I have seen a lot of discussion on the forum, mostly said the formal emp title basicly means nothing. Well i have a solution to fix that.

Give us Back the Formal Emperor Passives. I have no clue why they were cuted out of the game, but seeing how op and broke many thing in the game a fromal emp passive skill lines at least give a chance against OP DK zerg fests. (at least in Shor)

It was a realy bad idea to remove the formal emp passives. It will also give a chance to compete formal emperors against current emperors. Put it back please. Inlcuding the 1% all stats as well.
There are alot of people who worked their ass out in cyrodil to become an emperor, and i am not talking about the EMP boost zergfest for sallers.

Only if grand overlords get a bonus also reaching level 50 in pvp is basically meaningless and should come with some benefits

I’d be ok with Grand overlord getting something way more than for former Emp. At least it’s something all could get in time without trying to swap in dead or sub 50 campaigns

Ley

kyle.wilson wrote: »

TheValar85 wrote: »

I have seen a lot of discussion on the forum, mostly said the formal emp title basicly means nothing. Well i have a solution to fix that.

Give us Back the Formal Emperor Passives. I have no clue why they were cuted out of the game, but seeing how op and broke many thing in the game a fromal emp passive skill lines at least give a chance against OP DK zerg fests. (at least in Shor)

It was a realy bad idea to remove the formal emp passives. It will also give a chance to compete formal emperors against current emperors. Put it back please. Inlcuding the 1% all stats as well.
There are alot of people who worked their ass out in cyrodil to become an emperor, and i am not talking about the EMP boost zergfest for sallers.

Considering the number of people that abused the system to emp on dead servers, zos did the right thing to get rid of the former emp passives. In reality, anyone that got emp that way should be too embarrassed to rock the former emp title. Because I see a lot of terribad players wearing it.
It punishes the players that only fights on the most populated campaigns that rarely emp.

Getting emp doesn't require any pvp skill, just the time to farm AP and a very basic understanding of how to effectively farm AP. It helps if you have some friends who are capable of capping the emp keeps. Not saying that former emps have no pvp skill, but it is not a prerequisite.

Ixtyr

An objectively terrible idea that would do more to damage PvP and throw a major wrench into the PvE endgame.

No thanks.

Nihilos

If I have perma emp does that mean under your model I can have emp passives applied to my character permanently?

Nihilos

Cuz that’s a change I would 100% support

Ixtyr

That would be somewhat broken.

Also that bug needs to be fixed.

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