Would you pay for a normal skin?

Palidon

Others

I would pay for a skin that had visible Vampire Teeth and a animation that showed a Vamp player biting someone instead of the stupid drawing of blood with its hands from behind.

notimetocare

Others

aliyavana wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

“No” to players wanting all the privileges of being a vampire without the appearance that’s been well-established in Elder Scrolls lore ... which by the way is a cosmetic issue only.

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

“No” to players wanting all the privileges of being a vampire without the appearance that’s been well-established in Elder Scrolls lore ... which by the way is a cosmetic issue only.

I'd like you to meet Count Verandis, who has a normal elven appearance before you find out he's a vampire.



Oh, and you might say that vampires had a gross undead appearance before ESO, so I'd also like you to meet Serana from Skyrim. Pale skin, but most certainly NOT gross-looking or corpselike.

Checkmate

Nope. Different strains of vampirism. You might have had check, but you lost with your call

notimetocare

Others

kargen27 wrote: »

I voted yes, but with the caveat that it be in game gold that I spend.

Bram Stoker's Dracula the female vampires were "beautiful to the point of hypnotic".

The Vampyre in 1819 were "young, seductive, sexual and alluring"

And we have this: In northern Valenwood, there are the Bonsamu vampires who are indistinguishable from normal Bosmer unless seen by candlelight.

So no reason vampires can't look "normal" in the game.

Except ingame vampires are not Bondamu, they are children of Lamae Bal

Olupajmibanan

Others

I am ok with Amber Plasm xD

Chrlynsch

I've always thought there should be different vampire clans with different bloodlines. While a vampire you may locate them throughout tamriel, and complete a quest chain. Afterward you merge bloodlines, gaining a unique ability. The ability to hide vampirism could be one of these things you unlock.

coop500

You should not be able to hide your vampirism

Chrlynsch wrote: »

I've always thought there should be different vampire clans with different bloodlines. While a vampire you may locate them throughout tamriel, and complete a quest chain. Afterward you merge bloodlines, gaining a unique ability. The ability to hide vampirism could be one of these things you unlock.

Werewolves should get something in return otherwise this would be vastly unfair.

coop500

You should not be able to hide your vampirism

Wintergreen wrote: »

If Serena is the exception to the rule, show us the rule.

She's a very special vampire lord. Not a normal infected vampire via bite

Tyrion87

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

Wow why are people so strict and narrow minded? I can understand that some people might like vamp look and would not change the appearance of their vamp toons, but why you don't want others to change it if they don't like it? Does it hurt you in any way? It's just a cosmetic geez... And don't even try to justify it with some stupid "RP' reasons in a world full of e.g. Flame Atro Guars, Amber Plasm skins hiding the vampirism or Vamps wearing Werewolf Lord polimorphs lol

Appearance/visuals should not (and in fact do not) count as a 'downside' of being a vampire. The disadvantages are already included in the passives to balance out the advantages. The vampire skin should be optional just like any other skin in this game. As long as vamps look so bad in this game, none of my chars will never ever be one of them.

"Normal" skin should be free but since almost every cosmetic change in this game has to be bought nowdays, I don't believe it would be free. That's why I could even pay for it.

Dakmor_Kavu

I want a normal skin but it should be free

I'd be fine with the current vampire look if it didn't wash out the body markings as well. My skin just gets paler, so why does it have to look like I put a translucent cover over my tattoos as well???

If skin markings showed up normally I'd have zero issue with the vampire look.

Ostacia

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

coop500 wrote: »

Wintergreen wrote: »

If Serena is the exception to the rule, show us the rule.

She's a very special vampire lord. Not a normal infected vampire via bite

Oh for pity's sake, my vampire killed Molag Bal, that's pretty "special." And as soon as I buy Daggerfall, he'll have the title: Lord. This argument is merely splitting hairs for the sake of depriving people of something reasonable.

Malmai

I want a normal skin but it should be free

Pay for normal (50% people) skin when you got option "it should be free" which is normal to me. Brainwashed or just simple minded people.

Chilly-McFreeze

Or just make the vampire skin somewhat aesthetic, like in TES:V or so.

getemshauna

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

badmojo wrote: »

You made your choice, now live with it.

You've made your choice of wearing slimecraw, now live with looking like a crocodile because you can't hide your helmet.

preevious

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

Wow why are people so strict and narrow minded? I can understand that some people might like vamp look and would not change the appearance of their vamp toons, but why you don't want others to change it if they don't like it? Does it hurt you in any way? It's just a cosmetic geez... And don't even try to justify it with some stupid "RP' reasons in a world full of e.g. Flame Atro Guars, Amber Plasm skins hiding the vampirism or Vamps wearing Werewolf Lord polimorphs lol

Appearance/visuals should not (and in fact do not) count as a 'downside' of being a vampire. The disadvantages are already included in the passives to balance out the advantages. The vampire skin should be optional just like any other skin in this game. As long as vamps look so bad in this game, none of my chars will never ever be one of them.

"Normal" skin should be free but since almost every cosmetic change in this game has to be bought nowdays, I don't believe it would be free. That's why I could even pay for it.

My thoughts, exactly.

Basically, when I hear someone complaining that It would be unfair yada yada bad vampire players yada yada takes the disadvantage as well yada yada, all I hear is an old man shouting

"You should be as unhappy as I am !! "

Well, human nature ..

leeux

You should not be able to hide your vampirism

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

leeux wrote: »

IMO is really busted that the game *forces* magicka chars to be vamp or bust... this game is so nonsensical.

I, for one, I would never make my chars vampires, and I deal the consequences of that having less regen and not having a easy escape in PvP.

Now you tell me that you want to hide one of the balancing aspects of the vampirism, just because you don't like the looks? Well, in that case, I'd want for ZOS to provide a benefit to being pure human.

It's not a balancing aspect because it has nothing to do with gameplay. You can't balance appearance.

It is a psychological balancing aspect that prevents the game atm of being 100% vampires for all magicka builds. I asure you that there are many people that don't choose being one just for the aspect and how ugly their chars become... I don't want the game back at 2014 where almost all of the characters were vampires.

If there was no negative visual aspect of it, it wouldn't matter at all if you have it or not... it would just another set of passives that you have on all the time... and if that's is to be the case, well then, just move the regen passives to another skill line and let us all enjoy them without the RP/lore pitfalls of being one.

I don't care for the escape mechanism for PvP nor the damage reduction, I can use other means for that... but the lack of regen is a negative in PvE that cannot be avoided if you intend to do high level content.

starkerealm

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

coop500 wrote: »

Wintergreen wrote: »

If Serena is the exception to the rule, show us the rule.

She's a very special vampire lord. Not a normal infected vampire via bite

To be specific, she's a Daughter of Coldharbour, meaning she was personally turned by Molag Bal. The same is true of her mother, Verandis, and Lamae.

notimetocare wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

I voted yes, but with the caveat that it be in game gold that I spend.

Bram Stoker's Dracula the female vampires were "beautiful to the point of hypnotic".

The Vampyre in 1819 were "young, seductive, sexual and alluring"

And we have this: In northern Valenwood, there are the Bonsamu vampires who are indistinguishable from normal Bosmer unless seen by candlelight.

So no reason vampires can't look "normal" in the game.

Except ingame vampires are not Bondamu, they are children of Lamae Bal

Except for the part where the player vampires in ESO are already in a special category due to their soul shriven status, resulting in an ability set that doesn't appear elsewhere anyway. Batswarm + Mistform + Sun Immunity? Yeah, that's not a bloodline that's supposed to be out there.

Bobby_V_Rockit

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

And for the PvP weenies who *** about not being able to identify vampires... expert hunter.

coop500

You should not be able to hide your vampirism

Wintergreen wrote: »

coop500 wrote: »

Wintergreen wrote: »

If Serena is the exception to the rule, show us the rule.

She's a very special vampire lord. Not a normal infected vampire via bite

Oh for pity's sake, my vampire killed Molag Bal, that's pretty "special." And as soon as I buy Daggerfall, he'll have the title: Lord. This argument is merely splitting hairs for the sake of depriving people of something reasonable.

Killing Molag Bal has nothing to do with your vampire's blood and vampire abilities, my werewolf 'killed' (hint, you can't really kill a daedric lord) him too but I don't get anything special for it werewolf wise.

EvilCroc

Others

I would pay for vampires not getting normal skin.

Ostacia

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

It's both iconic and ironic that werewolves are telling vampires how they should and shouldn't be. @starkerealm brought up some very good points in their post above ^ ...namely, that "player vampires in ESO are already in a special category due to their soul shriven status."

If werewolves had some butt-ugly snout or something like the female worgen face ala WoW, I bet there'd be some howlin' goin on.

starkerealm

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

Nerouyn wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

This get's thrown around a lot, but it's not true. There are plenty of NPCs in TES games that hide their vampirisim (including one in this game).

Who are these plenty?

As I recall from Morrowind the only method by which you could hide vampirism was the Masque of Clavicus Vile, i.e. covering your entire face.

The entire Cyrodiilic strain is capable of hiding their nature, though not all do. Varandis is another example in ESO. There are a few others scattered around.

Hrogun

I want a normal skin but it should be free

EvilCroc wrote: »

I would pay for vampires not getting normal skin.

You, sir, made me laugh.

KramUzibra

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

I would pay 5000 crowns

Cinbri

No, I won't pay for a normal skin

Paying for something that you can have for free

Zordrage

Cinbri wrote: »

Paying for something that you can have for free

and people wonder why the Cratepocalypse is happening in the gaming industry.... and why singleplayer games sell ingame stuff for irl money nowdays as a new trend....

LOL

Ostacia

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

Granted, a work-around is to wear a "disguise" but then the hairstyles, body markings, accessories/jewelry, and other crown store purchases disappear on that character. Not free.

preevious

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

It is a psychological balancing aspect that prevents the game atm of being 100% vampires for all magicka builds. I asure you that there are many people that don't choose being one just for the aspect and how ugly their chars become... I don't want the game back at 2014 where almost all of the characters were vampires.

Hmmm that, I can understand, actually..

But I'll tell you, that, if there was such a skin, there would maybe be more vampires, but .. you would actually see far less of them. Since they would wear the skin

And that's actually great for immersion ! Everybody wins !

Vampires are happy to be beautifull !
Non-vampires are happy to see less vampires !

Pele

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

TIL it's part of The Elder Scrolls lore to be a vampire without looking like a corpse.

VoodooPlatypus

Yes, I would pay for a normal skin

I would be absolutely fine with the current in-game appearance of vampirism if the "layers" of vampire stages weren't in the incorrect order, effectively nullifying body markings (and most face markings) completely. The head marking you receive at the end of the main Morrowind quest is the only head marking I know of that is in the correct (top) layer and doesn't fade/wash out the appearance with progressive vampirism stages (though, strangely enough, the body marking is not applied to the same "layer" and does wash out). ALL markings/tattoos should be immune to the fading by being on the "top layer," both for the head and the body.

That's my only real beef.

Because it seems unlikely, years into the game's life cycle, that ZOS will take the time to address this glaring oversight I would be ok with an alternative skin option to just bypass it. Most of the current skins in game do not suit my characters. I have to go to what feels like pretty significant customization lengths (between armor and costumes and hats and hairstyles and...) to make a skin look "right" for each character, so generally I just don't bother.

So yes, in the end I would prefer my vampires not resemble a nearly-transparent sack of blood vessels and veins, but if they just adjusted the layering sequence to make sense I would be absolutely fine with the rest of it.

Also, I will never understand why Khajiit fur and Argonian scales fade at all.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO

aliyavana wrote: »

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

How about stop being a vampire, since everyone is so butthurt about what it looks like? It's not like you're forced into it.

Extra stats

Not needed, really, but I DO understand your point. But at least don't bother us crying like a baby. You decided. You... in this case referring to all the vampire cry babies.