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Thoughts on bow-only NB (*groaning* welcome)
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I know this has been discussed but I'm still new enough and naive enough to theory craft about a bow-only NB build.
I have 5 NBs. 2 stamblades (DW + Bow), a magblade DPS (staves) and a magblade tank (S&B + DW). While I'm very new to playing the magblades, I can already see the major advantages of survivability and range.
That survivability and range comes from a few skills, mainly funnel health, refreshing path, and sap essence...skills that are on no meta stamblade builds.
Could the two be combined into something viable? Could you weave Funnel Health with a bow's LA's after laying down Endless Hail and refreshing path?
One challenge I can see is the hybrid approach to magicka NB skills and stamina bow skills. Another is medium vs. light armor. But are those show stoppers?
Not viable?
Edited by krachall on December 18, 2017 9:18PM I have 5 NBs. 2 stamblades (DW + Bow), a magblade DPS (staves) and a magblade tank (S&B + DW). While I'm very new to playing the magblades, I can already see the major advantages of survivability and range.
That survivability and range comes from a few skills, mainly funnel health, refreshing path, and sap essence...skills that are on no meta stamblade builds.
Could the two be combined into something viable? Could you weave Funnel Health with a bow's LA's after laying down Endless Hail and refreshing path?
One challenge I can see is the hybrid approach to magicka NB skills and stamina bow skills. Another is medium vs. light armor. But are those show stoppers?
Not viable?
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭Everything is viable.
But I would advise to abandon hybrid in favor of stamina. Hybrids are a very specific thing, which is justified in very rare cases (for example, for tanking or using successful combinations of magical and stamina attack skills).
Although it depends on what kind of content you mean.Everything is viable1 -
krachall✭✭✭✭✭
✭Without the NB Magicka skills, I’m worried my bow-only NB will be less than half the dps with no more survivability than my dw/bow stamblade.0 -
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✭✭Without the NB Magicka skills, I’m worried my bow-only NB will be less than half the dps with no more survivability than my dw/bow stamblade.
With magicka skills your DPS will be crap.
Without them, it has potential to be 75-85% as good as your dw/bow DPS, unless you are bad with light attack weaving.
As for surviving it depends on content.Edited by SodanTok on December 18, 2017 9:46PM2 -
Pinja✭✭✭✭Bow only NB? Viable.
Bow only NB using magicka skills? Horrible.
What that's not horrible haven't you ever gotten a willpower bow before?
All you got to do is combo it with light hundings...
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Pinja✭✭✭✭On a craft note, a befit to a mag blade bow Prison rags roll, expedition, cloak, run cloak.0
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✭✭✭✭I know this has been discussed but I'm still new enough and naive enough to theory craft about a bow-only NB build.
I have 5 NBs. 2 stamblades (DW + Bow), a magblade DPS (staves) and a magblade tank (S&B + DW). While I'm very new to playing the magblades, I can already see the major advantages of survivability and range.
That survivability and range comes from a few skills, mainly funnel health, refreshing path, and sap essence...skills that are on no meta stamblade builds.
Could the two be combined into something viable? Could you weave Funnel Health with a bow's LA's after laying down Endless Hail and refreshing path?
One challenge I can see is the hybrid approach to magicka NB skills and stamina bow skills. Another is medium vs. light armor. But are those show stoppers?
Not viable?
Is this mainly for PVP or PVE?0 -
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✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »I know this has been discussed but I'm still new enough and naive enough to theory craft about a bow-only NB build.
I have 5 NBs. 2 stamblades (DW + Bow), a magblade DPS (staves) and a magblade tank (S&B + DW). While I'm very new to playing the magblades, I can already see the major advantages of survivability and range.
That survivability and range comes from a few skills, mainly funnel health, refreshing path, and sap essence...skills that are on no meta stamblade builds.
Could the two be combined into something viable? Could you weave Funnel Health with a bow's LA's after laying down Endless Hail and refreshing path?
One challenge I can see is the hybrid approach to magicka NB skills and stamina bow skills. Another is medium vs. light armor. But are those show stoppers?
Not viable?
Is this mainly for PVP or PVE?
PVE. I have a PVP stamblade archer that's pretty fun to play but is certainly not built for PVE.0 -
Nephimana✭✭✭A Bow/Bow build is possible and somewhat viable, Gilliamtherogue made a build and put out a rotation that did passable numbers, not anything close to dw/bow, but enough to pass requirements for a vet trials group. But the build only did decent numbers with the asylum bow and maelstrom bow which you may or may not have (only assuming because you said you were new).
But as the others have said, no, you can't weave funnel health or sap essence. Hybrids don't work well in this game unless you're tanking or few instances.
I recommend checking out gilliams bow/bow build and copy the skills. If you have struggles surviving, you can use sets and poisons.1