I'm running 5x 7L, 5x alchemist back bar, 2x malubeth. You basically get a 15s burst window using immov pots and around 5.5k weapon damage. Hits like a truck, then you turtle for 30s to rinse and repeat.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »Real question is, why would any streamer mention your build?
streamers only post/use BiS builds.
Now don't get me wrong this is as meta as it gets for stamDK, but warden and dk work different.
there is a reason ww hide is only used by Dks.
and even as a stamDk I don't like werewolf hide that much. Its such a ''meh'' set.
And seventh legion is already mentioned by a lot of people.
thats not allways true.
i saw alot build videos of "famos" streamers witch subobtimal cp setings and stuff...
the most of them play verry well thats right
Ragnarock41 wrote: »
Look, Im not going to lie to you, stamden is damn strong , but your build is not even close.
ww hide was meta because kodi used it in a creative way. It kind of died after the spell wall nerf.
You acting like Its so special is childish at best.
Also a little advice to you,
Don't run nirn on both bars.
Choose a front bar and a back bar,
on back bar, use a set that gives you a bonus you can use on your front bar, (ww hide backbar dk with 2h front bar, for example thats how kodi ran his FOTM dk build)
As for traits you want infused with weapon damage enchant on your back bar, if you're a stamDk you can go decisive , Its your second best trait for back bar.)
for front bar nirn is the best in slot for %99 of the time.
Anyways, you can get rid of ww hide, just get something like alchemist, you will have huge burst and your sustain wont change at all.
you already should have crazy ult gen anyways.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »Well Im sorry to insult your feelings but It is a bit childish.
Now read carefully.
Why do you want a streamer to mention your build?
Do you really need their seal of approval?
I don't get why streamers are that relevant, they are just players like you and I.
And some of the popular ones are making so bad builds that yours look superior to them.
I literally giggled as I watched deltia play his new ''butcher'' dk build in PvP. after the stream even he admitted that It was a good build for ''new players''. and alcast/kodi dont even play stamDk anymore, but they still make builds for the class. How can I take their opinions or build seriously when they don't even seem to playing the class anymore? Well answer is simple, I only check streamers to compare their builds to mine. to see how different I am compared to average joe, because every single joe out there in cyrodiil will be running that FOTM builds.
Forget about streamers. go out there and try out your builds, ask opinions of every player, when you get beaten by another one, ask him what he uses, how he uses. Thats how I improved my dk to the point that my friends can almost always rely on me in a fight.
I think Its a good thing you want to improve so you look for advices in here, but you definitely dont need a streamer mentioning your setup to know its good or bad. Go ahead, test your build, then make a new one, compare both and decide for yourself. This is how people make good builds. By theorycrafting and then actually testing.
Start with getting clever alchemist instead of ww hide, you only need it on your back bar to proc it by the way, I guarantee you will like it better than ww hide once you get the hang of it.
PS:
IF you're playing in PC-EU we can also help you get better at mechanical skill too.
We do have a guild that focuses on all kinds of PvP with lots and lots of good players.
We do small scale, duels, everything, I can guarantee that you will find some of the top tier PvP players in eu pc.
Well Im not playing a lot since dk nerfs but guild is very active. give me a pm if you're interested, I will give you the details, and tell you who to find.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »oh, the DDK, I'm actually a big fan of you guys,fighting the EP zerg outbreak 7/24 and I admit DDK is one of the strongest, if not the strongest Dc guild in sotha sil.
Never been in a bomber guild myself as Im more of a solo player. I played solo for almost 4 years and only now Im playing in a group because the recent nerfs made it very hard to solo with a stamDk.
my main is a stamDK named Lurtz Lothbrok,(silly name I know,used to be an orc, now a redguard because morrowind hurts..) chances are you probably saw me at least a few times, I spend most of my time in sotha sil because I hate CP.
Nowadays I'm playing with the foul play guild, Guild leader is an EP player but he is a great guy and a very strong player,
Its a guild made for a fun time in PvP, has players from all 3 alliances.
Key activities... well.. we just roam in sotha sil and small scale. we are usually the ones who stop EV and his AD nightcap zerg from making the map yellow.I must say Im proud to be the part of a guild with so many amazing players.
Beating a 25 man EP zerg plus an emp, with only 8 people. Without a bomber, thats how good they can get.
I also trained by drogul and his friends before I joined them,they are theorycrafting builds 7/24, Drogul is not the best of the best but he is pretty damn good with stamsorc/stamplar.
he also has a strong stamden that I never managed to beat yet, you can probably ask him for tips too by the way.
Ragnarock41 wrote: »oh, the DDK, I'm actually a big fan of you guys,fighting the EP zerg outbreak 7/24 and I admit DDK is one of the strongest, if not the strongest Dc guild in sotha sil.
Never been in a bomber guild myself as Im more of a solo player. I played solo for almost 4 years and only now Im playing in a group because the recent nerfs made it very hard to solo with a stamDk.
my main is a stamDK named Lurtz Lothbrok,(silly name I know,used to be an orc, now a redguard because morrowind hurts..) chances are you probably saw me at least a few times, I spend most of my time in sotha sil because I hate CP.
Nowadays I'm playing with the foul play guild, Guild leader is an EP player but he is a great guy and a very strong player,
Its a guild made for a fun time in PvP, has players from all 3 alliances.
Key activities... well.. we just roam in sotha sil and small scale. we are usually the ones who stop EV and his AD nightcap zerg from making the map yellow.I must say Im proud to be the part of a guild with so many amazing players.
Beating a 25 man EP zerg plus an emp, with only 8 people. Without a bomber, thats how good they can get.
I also trained by drogul and his friends before I joined them,they are theorycrafting builds 7/24, Drogul is not the best of the best but he is pretty damn good with stamsorc/stamplar.
he also has a strong stamden that I never managed to beat yet, you can probably ask him for tips too by the way.
tank and spank setup
@Trashs1 , livewire is good. I ended up going with two damage sets for my stamwarden.
hello fellow comunity
this post refers most to our fellow build creators and in dept theory crafters like @Lexxypwns @crusnik91 @Hexys bakerofcakes kodipvp and so on..
i did my own stamden build. i play him now since 2 weeks with my equipment and just do well. (better than with any of the youtube builds)
im using a simple setup:
2 bloodspawn
5 seventh legion
5 on snb bar werewolfhide
2h bar asylum 2hand sword nirn // 2h werewolfsword nirn (gives 124 weapondmg through 4 set bonus) although not sure whats better here <--input from u guys needed
why noone mention that setup? i know its pretty much copy paste from the old stamdks but it works kinda well. im using the tree ult on snb and its almost up when the last one expires (ult gen morph). also dawnbreaker uptime is awesome when needed.
im currious what u guys think, why this build never got mentioned? is werewolfhide so weak this patch? i dont feel so
ravager is better than seventh.
Meh, Ravager is good on stamplar, otherwise difficult to proc tbh :P
interesting, how hard is it to get the robust unique truth rings?