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[FIXED]Pack Leader Werewolf bugged!!

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CrazyWolf712
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THIS BUG HAS BEEN FIXED IN THE WOLFHUNTER DLC!

This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_KaiSchober
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_TristanK
Edited by CrazyWolf712 on August 2, 2018 9:03PM
GT - CrazyWolf712
Guildmaster of the Ebony Wolf Pack
Xbox One/NA server
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223041/ebony-wolf-pack-ep-pvp-and-vet-dungeons-werewolf-guild-250-members/p1

Werewolf build forum:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/384516/ebony-wolf-pack-werewolf-101-updated-for-greymoor/p1?new=1
  • Koolio
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    Agreed. And this is an issue I've seen too
  • Ertthewolf
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    Yep....This should have been addressed before fixing Call of the Pack. The wolves don't respawn after player dies while still in werewolf form and revives. It makes group werewolf PvP especially annoying as you have to revert form after you die or deal with having no dire wolves....Which makes the Pack Leader morph useless.

    Werewolf already struggles in PvP. Please fix devs!
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

    It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_KaiSchober
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    @ZOS_GaryA
    @ZOS_TristanK

    who is so crazy and does vmsa on a WW??? Thanks id rather have a good score^^
    Cp 1490
    Xbox-EU-AD
    Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
    Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
    Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
    Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
    Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.
  • CrazyWolf712
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    Mangeli200194 wrote: »
    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

    It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_KaiSchober
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    @ZOS_GaryA
    @ZOS_TristanK

    who is so crazy and does vmsa on a WW??? Thanks id rather have a good score^^

    @Mangeli200194 You’d be surprised what werewolf can do. @Ertthewolf has not only completed VMA as a werewolf but also has gotten Flawless Conquerer as a werewolf and gotten rank 45 for the week for doing so.
    Edited by CrazyWolf712 on November 13, 2017 10:01PM
    GT - CrazyWolf712
    Guildmaster of the Ebony Wolf Pack
    Xbox One/NA server
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223041/ebony-wolf-pack-ep-pvp-and-vet-dungeons-werewolf-guild-250-members/p1

    Werewolf build forum:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/384516/ebony-wolf-pack-werewolf-101-updated-for-greymoor/p1?new=1
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
    Community Manager
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.
    Gina Bruno
    Senior Community Manager
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  • Ertthewolf
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Thank you Gina!

    @Mangeli200194 vMA is totally possible with werewolf. I got Flawless in 5 runs lol. Here is forum with video link. Ended up with 463000 or so score. Not bad for my first no death run. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371298/the-flawless-big-bad-wolf/p1
    Edited by Ertthewolf on November 13, 2017 10:47PM
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

    It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_KaiSchober
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    @ZOS_GaryA
    @ZOS_TristanK

    who is so crazy and does vmsa on a WW??? Thanks id rather have a good score^^
    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    Mangeli200194 wrote: »
    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

    It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_KaiSchober
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    @ZOS_GaryA
    @ZOS_TristanK

    who is so crazy and does vmsa on a WW??? Thanks id rather have a good score^^

    @Mangeli200194 You’d be surprised what werewolf can do. @Ertthewolf has not only completed VMA as a werewolf but also has gotten Flawless Conquerer as a werewolf and gotten rank 45 for the week for doing so.
    How high is your selfbuffed dps on a target dummy then ????

    Cp 1490
    Xbox-EU-AD
    Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
    Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
    Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
    Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
    Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.
  • Glaiceana
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    Yep noticed this too, the dire wolves do not respawn.
    If you need visual evidence then check our wolf run of nAA, and you'll soon see all our dire wolves disappear never to return :(
    https://youtu.be/h8ElFDrGWjU
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  • TheWolfishGrizz
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    Agreed, this is something really needing to be fixed, especially after "fixing" call of the pack, when it was neither broken nor mentioned in a single patch note as far as I can tell. This basically renders the Pack Leader morph utterly useless as one death makes us simply a white werewolf with no buff.

    In terms of the Call of the Pack, it should have remained as it was because it created a level playing field for werewolves, especially in PvP considering the zerg rushing of players with the Eye of Flame, even after the recent decrease in its damage. Real issues like wolves never respawning should be addressed, not fixing things that aren't broken.

  • CrazyWolf712
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    Mangeli200194 wrote: »
    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

    It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_KaiSchober
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    @ZOS_GaryA
    @ZOS_TristanK

    who is so crazy and does vmsa on a WW??? Thanks id rather have a good score^^
    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    Mangeli200194 wrote: »
    CrazyWolf712 wrote: »
    This glitch has been around since the Pack Leader was first changed to summon two dire wolves. I don’t know if anyone has ever reported this bug, so I figured I would. The Pack Leaders special ability is to summon two dire wolves that attack enemies and snare them. It helps to take aggro off in solo play and to confuse players in PvP. That makes the Pack Leader a strong morph to werewolf. And when the wolves die, they’ll respawn in 12 seconds.....unless the player dies. In that case, the wolves never respawn and you have to get out of werewolf form and rebuild the ultimate to get them back.

    It’s because of this that I had to change to Berserker on my nightblade for extra bleed damage since I can’t rely on the dire wolves to take heat off. That would be especially useful in VMA. Since the wolves respawn 12 seconds after they die, I think it’s only fair that they respawn 12 seconds after the player dies and resurrects. Then we don’t have to get out of wolf form just to get them back. Because as far as I’m concerned, the Berserker is the better morph because of this glitch. Please fix!

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    @ZOS_KaiSchober
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    @ZOS_GaryA
    @ZOS_TristanK

    who is so crazy and does vmsa on a WW??? Thanks id rather have a good score^^

    @Mangeli200194 You’d be surprised what werewolf can do. @Ertthewolf has not only completed VMA as a werewolf but also has gotten Flawless Conquerer as a werewolf and gotten rank 45 for the week for doing so.
    How high is your selfbuffed dps on a target dummy then ????

    Target dummy dps is hardly accurate, lol! Your enemy’s never going to be standing still. But on a dummy, mine is 12k on my tank and 18k on my dps werewolves. Ertthewolf’s is about 20k or more and I’ve heard of werewolf builds that can reach 30k. But Ert and I have build for more self sustain rather than pure damage. We always have 15k+ magicka for heals and 25k health to take a hit. We also have 33k resistances in werewolf form. My recoveries are all between 1200-1700 and I have Engine Guardian so I’m the most survivable at the cost of losing some damage.

    But anyways, thank you Gina for looking into this glitch. We really appreciate it!
    GT - CrazyWolf712
    Guildmaster of the Ebony Wolf Pack
    Xbox One/NA server
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223041/ebony-wolf-pack-ep-pvp-and-vet-dungeons-werewolf-guild-250-members/p1

    Werewolf build forum:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/384516/ebony-wolf-pack-werewolf-101-updated-for-greymoor/p1?new=1
  • Chrlynsch
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/314355/werewolf-pack-leader-drops-off-after-death

    Woot

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    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • Koolio
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
    ZOS_GinaBruno
    Community Manager
    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?

    No, not yet.
    Gina Bruno
    Senior Community Manager
    Dev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter | My Twitter
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  • Koolio
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?

    No, not yet.

    Thank you for the quick response. Looking forward to that day.
  • CrazyWolf712
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    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?

    No, not yet.

    Thank you for the quick response. Looking forward to that day.

    Agreed. Hope it is soon!
    GT - CrazyWolf712
    Guildmaster of the Ebony Wolf Pack
    Xbox One/NA server
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/223041/ebony-wolf-pack-ep-pvp-and-vet-dungeons-werewolf-guild-250-members/p1

    Werewolf build forum:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/384516/ebony-wolf-pack-werewolf-101-updated-for-greymoor/p1?new=1
  • Qbiken
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    Anything regarding the "Unchained"-passive as well? Are the devs working on that at the moment?
  • RouDeR
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    every 4-5 months I post bug reports in the forum about this and many other issues , my first post was in 2016 January I think , so make your conclusion if they are gonna fix it ^^
  • Chrlynsch
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    RouDeR wrote: »
    every 4-5 months I post bug reports in the forum about this and many other issues , my first post was in 2016 January I think , so make your conclusion if they are gonna fix it ^^

    Impossible... Pack Leader wolves didn't come out until May 2016 so it only hasn't worked correctly for like 21 months...
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?

    No, not yet.

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    Edited by Chrlynsch on March 13, 2018 12:28PM
    Caius
    Pack Leader of Scourge Alliance- First Fang of Hircine, The Beast of Bruma
    PC NA
  • Koolio
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?

    No, not yet.

    Did this not get addressed this patch. It’s been broken since this was released.
  • Wuuffyy
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    AOE Dodgeables:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spr3qqfk3S4


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JOT9h04zc


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YGG2D2zssk


    Ability Mechanic Failures:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEuqYy9-uoU


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5o4yvkL9E


    This Doesn't Make Sense:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCReyfy-2Ik
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    -PM for questions
  • Koolio
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    Still broken.

    This is and ultimate morphs that has been broken for over a year now.

    I wish Meteor ultimate regen was bugged for over a year. This is getting on my nerves.
  • RouDeR
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    Dont worry , they nerfed our Light and Heavy attack damage by 40% with the new "Scale" on PTS , so the Pack Leader is the last thing that we need to worry about ^^.
  • Koolio
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • Koolio
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    Fixed an issue that helped the Pack leader morph be viable.

    Left broken issue that completely breaks this ultimate morphs effect.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • Koolio
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    November 17th quote
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Edited by Koolio on May 14, 2018 3:47PM
  • Koolio
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Koolio wrote: »
    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    Did this ever get fixed?

    No, not yet.
    So any chance this will get fixed? 2 years of a broken ultimate that some of us might have actually payed crown for.
  • Koolio
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    ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
    Thanks all, we're looking into this and will let you know if we need more info.

    How long does this take to look into? 6+ months?
  • ArseJuice
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    Seriously ZOS, do you have any reason why it takes so long to fix? ignoring us won't make issue magically dissappear.
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  • Cuthceol
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    Remember when sorc overload was bugged and the servers were taken down and the problem hotfixed in less than 24 hours, make you wonder
  • Koolio
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    WasteOfTime wrote: »
    Remember when sorc overload was bugged and the servers were taken down and the problem hotfixed in less than 24 hours, make you wonder

    And to think they sell this in the crown store
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