Apache_Kid wrote: »I've seen Dev Comments the last couple days on some of the bug threads that they will be fixed in Update 17 but this thread and others about this issue with Razgurug and the Cyrodiil quest boards not offering quests have not been given enough attention. Will this issue be addressed in update 17 or will it not? @ZOS_GinaBruno
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I'm pretty sure it's because of repeatable checks looking for the quest name instead of quest ID variable(numbers and letters combines). This is either a tedious fix to find and rename the right references or they may need to rewrite the entire reference system to use variables instead of specific text strings(coding terms) to make it work. The latter is a huge long project that they may be unwilling to undertake currently.
This all depends on how the game is coded at the base level.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »
I'm pretty sure it's because of repeatable checks looking for the quest name instead of quest ID variable(numbers and letters combines). This is either a tedious fix to find and rename the right references or they may need to rewrite the entire reference system to use variables instead of specific text strings(coding terms) to make it work. The latter is a huge long project that they may be unwilling to undertake currently.
This all depends on how the game is coded at the base level.
Why would this mean that the Cyrodiil dailies that used to work fine, are now broken?
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »That's a completely different bug. I have no idea why since I avoid pvp anyway. The pve Razgurug daily is the issue that made a lot more people notice and was quickly figured out even if not fixed yet.
Maybe you need to look at the pvp daily names or some other variable. Try to figure out what circumstances make it not work rather than just asking other people to figure it out who either haven't noticed or will never notice because they don't do those dailies. You have the problem so you have more ability to figure it out than most of us.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »
That's a completely different bug. I have no idea why since I avoid pvp anyway. The pve Razgurug daily is the issue that made a lot more people notice and was quickly figured out even if not fixed yet.
Maybe you need to look at the pvp daily names or some other variable. Try to figure out what circumstances make it not work rather than just asking other people to figure it out who either haven't noticed or will never notice because they don't do those dailies. You have the problem so you have more ability to figure it out than most of us.
Thanks for the snarky reply,
Apache_Kid wrote: »
Why can't the people who get paid to work on the game figure it out?
The onus is not on the customer to determine the cause of defects in the product.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »What do you do when you "assume"? You make an *** of yourself.
I was not being snarky. I was trying to help you help yourself
If you can't figure out why the dailies are not resetting then it doesn't make the developer's job any easier especially when other players supposedly have no trouble with those dailies resetting. There is a variable they would have a hard time testing.
Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »
You're right, but it's not always so simple. They can't always see what you see. They expected it to work in the first place when they put the content in the game, especially after the PTS, but that obviously didn't work out.
I happen to work in troubleshooting hardware over the phone for a living. I need to rely on the customer being my eyes and hands because I can't see anything helpful remotely and can't affect anything remotely.
If you fail to notice important details and relay it to them then they have little information other than your claims of "it works for others but not for me, so fix the problem that you have no idea where to start because you don't even know what is different and I refuse to provide that helpful information".
That's why players investigated Razgurug and figured him out, and why it is so strange that he has not been fixed yet. They found out, by multiple tries, that he was not awarding one daily, the alchemy one named "A Bitter Pill", which shares a name with a non-daily one-time-only quest from Deshaan. This is also happening for every last player who does those dailies the same as everyone else, unlike the cyrodiil dailies from what I have heard.
This is why more information from players helps. Sometimes players can figure it out for the developers enough to patch it easily, or if modding is allowed to patch it themselves like all the unofficial patches for TES3 Morrowind and TES4 Oblivion and TES5 Skyrim.
drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »Here's a work-around...
I have 2 accounts. What I did was find a low-level character on my second account, joined them to group and shared the daily quest with them. Because it seems like ZOS has little interesting in correcting this bug, when the bug does happen to me, I group up the second account character that has the daily in its Journal...share the quest back to the primary account...and I am able to do the daily. This allows me to continue to get my 4 boxes per day and progress toward my achievements.
The only problem I see here is the paywall barrier to those who would set up a free account; they would need to have CWC DLC installed I believe to allow the sharing of the quest (I'm not sure as I do not have that problem). I sub on both accounts.