*IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR PVPERS*

Velukodi

How about instead of queuing for VIVEC, the laggiest and most populated campaign on "PC NA" during prime time, we start queuing for the campaign: Shor, and popularizing it until ZOS removes the several unnecessary 7-day campaigns.

The reason I'm posting this is because I find it highly possible that people are just waiting and queuing into Vivec because its the only campaign with population and people tend to enjoy CP - 30 day campaigns over the other campaigns by statistics. In addition, there are too many campaigns to choose from and people are simply just confused on which campaign to play in since there are too many empty campaigns and only one CP - 30 day campaign. As a community, if we have people queuing into Shor it may become poplar. Think of it as the only other campaign to play on besides Vivec until ZOS takes action.

With this being said I do think ZOS should remove the 7-day campaigns, I find that people don't enjoy campaigns unless they're CP enabled and 30 days. There should be 2 - 30 day campaigns and 1 Non-CP-30 Day Campaign by the looks of PvP population.

(Feel free to comment on this)

Jagoblade

Same with EU please.

Lieblingsjunge

7-day campaigns are used to PvDoor emp and crown people that pays for the title/achieve. Or guilds that wants to farm emp. I agree with removing 7-day campaigns and focusing on another CP30-day campaign. On EU we do have Sotha Sil / Vivec, both locked on all 3 factions usually during primetime though. But an additional cp-30d campaign would be nice - although I don't think people will populate it.

They're just too used to Vivec by now - and I'm not sure if you can convince the "casuals"(not meant in a negative way) that just hops on the zerg and moves from keep - keep - keep, or even have them care enough to move campaigns.

Lower population cap on Vivec would be one option - and then add another 30d CP-campaign. Altho I still think people would just wait in queue and QQ. Doubt they would try and populate a second cp-campaign. It's just how it is, sadly.

Rickter

Been on Shor with my guild, Requiem, since ot went live.

We have a vibrant community and there is no salt. We dont camp tri-keeps and there is a general respect among the current population.

Please do not bring over an sotha sil garbage drama. Its not welcome.

Grimlok_S

Been a Shor regular since it's inception.

Shor needs AD players in a bad way. EP generally leads the organized numbers, small groups and solos are definitely welcome.

See this thread for more. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/358892/na-pc-call-2-arms-dc-and-ad-shor-needs-you#latest

Serjustin19

Some points I actually agree with. Accept I don't play pc much anymore. But when I do, I make sure I'm not recognized (different and original name) on my rare visits. I mean who really wants Serjustin19 around? Serjustin is so annoying. Take this advertisement below.




But going to business. (PS4 EU wise) I used to be in Shor yes, I was originally planning to stay Shor. But I left Shor due to

1. It's not the same as 1st and 2nd Scourge PS4 EU

2. Vivec Reminds me of 1st and 2nd Scourge. 1st and 2nd Scourge was and used to be CP.

3. I have never really knew Azura Star. (Azura used to be 30 day CP, until Azura was changed to non CP) Azura was always popular.

4. Can't hide from lag, even with Shor

5. Scourge is actually back. Even though yes it is different name to match Morrowind. But Vivec will always be known as, 3rd Scourge to me.

6. Vivec PS4 EU is hurting as well. I'm not mad or upset, but DC needs to kinda tone it down a little bit. I did wrote a thread about whats been happening in Vivec.

I'm used to it though, hence why I'm not mad or upset. I mean EP used to do the same in 1st and 2nd Scourge. However we also need more AD and EP.

NBrookus

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

Xsorus

They want to fix pvdoor crap they’ll combine euro servers with us servers.

Serjustin19

Xsorus wrote: »

They want to fix pvdoor crap they’ll combine euro servers with us servers.

We both have something similar. Here is my recent com from another thread earlier Has ZOS Abandoned PvP?"

However my thought wasn't "merge with Us and EU servers" like your idea. But my earlier thought was merge different campaigns together on both EU and NA servers. But both of us thoughts are almost the same but different



https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4568141#Comment_4568141

umagon

Is Shor the new promised land where the server latency is only in the double digits, loading screens don’t get stuck, charging skills don’t send players clipping through the map, aoe spam trains are nonexistent, and the mighty lord leads his people against the vile elven/nord scourge?

Vapirko

Rickter wrote: »

Been on Shor with my guild, Requiem, since ot went live.

We have a vibrant community and there is no salt. We dont camp tri-keeps and there is a general respect among the current population.

Please do not bring over an sotha sil garbage drama. Its not welcome.

Amen. Don’t trash Shor, some of us have a lot of good natured fun there, and people like @Rickter have been working hard to foster a positive, competitive relationship between factions. And please don’t remove all the 7 days. I do not want to be forced into playing the laggy zerg fest that is vivec or the salty trash fest that is Sotha.

Publius_Scipio

The whimsical and misguided thoughts that there will be some magical nirvana campaign where everything is great. As soon as one campaign becomes popular and players pack into it, it will become what Vivec is, what all the other campaigns that came before were. Guilds, especially the larger ones are nomads. Even if there were enough players to pop-lock every available campaign all it would mean is that all campaigns would be like Vivec.

NBrookus

umagon wrote: »

Is Shor the new promised land where the server latency is only in the double digits, loading screens don’t get stuck, charging skills don’t send players clipping through the map, aoe spam trains are nonexistent, and the mighty lord leads his people against the vile elven/nord scourge?

Load screens, random crashes and charging into nothingness are still a thing, alas.

olsborg

I havent rly pvped in 2 weeks, simply because when I can pvp its laggy, when its not laggy theres either no players to fight or I have to work. Sadtimes.

AmochonBorn

Have you really thought this trough? I would still do my things i was doing In the Empty. There would be one player less. Do you really want me There? Haha dont even know the names of campaigns. You will lose the war bcause me looting recipe.

Publius_Scipio

This made me lol^

TequilaFire

Speak for yourself, some of us play 30 and 7 day campaigns.
Why does the 1vX crowd want to force their way on everyone else?
What you describe as PvDoor is actually playing the map as designed taking keeps for campaign points.
Get over it this is AvAvA not small scale.

Storymaster

Precambrian Nightmare Time™

Morvane

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/374614/why-kastav-xarxes-still-exist#latest

Kartalin

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

Lord_Hev

Kartalin wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

I challenged your raid lead for a 5 v 10 open field. Received nothing but boastful empty talk, and no acceptance of my challenge while you all cowered on your own resource(after I wiped half your group in Ash and you all retreated to drop a camp and cap the mine) with a siege line. And you talking a big game "no one would fight us" idk, your "organized" guild seemed very scared to fight us without the odds stacked in your favor... while blatantly outnumbering us... But... no one would fight you?

I played leap frog with your organized group as if you were NPCs for me to do a rotation on, and you all just rezzed up as fast as you died for another coordinated ult bomb. Easy. I felt like I was doing a skyreach run on you all. If you did not have free port at nikel, we would have wiped you there and then.


If you are going to make snide insinuations, at least make sure you aren't omitting important convenient details.

NBrookus

Kartalin wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

1) I wasn't talking about you.
2) I didn't even recall that incident until you brought it to mind.
3) Not sure what happened earlier, but my arrival brought the number of EP in the tower up to 5 while you guys were camping resource guards with a siege line. Maybe being perma-eclipsed, double cc'd and negated by guards while under siege and losing keeps elsewhere sounds like fun to you, but it sure doesn't to me.

Montayva

NBrookus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

1) I wasn't talking about you.
2) I didn't even recall that incident until you brought it to mind.
3) Not sure what happened earlier, but my arrival brought the number of EP in the tower up to 5 while you guys were camping resource guards with a siege line. Maybe being perma-eclipsed, double cc'd and negated by guards while under siege and losing keeps elsewhere sounds like fun to you, but it sure doesn't to me.

The Cold fire siegeline had us all laughing so hard we couldn't form up to push anyway

Prince_of_all_Pugs

Yo kodi, we need more DC and AD players please specify this to your viewers. we already have alot of EP players on the server . Any more EP players and the server might become toxic "buff (ego) server".

OdinForge

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Yo kodi, we need more DC and AD players please specify this to your viewers. we already have alot of EP players on the server . Any more EP players and the server might become toxic "buff (ego) server".

Aside from Rickter and his DC group, it's really hard to find fights as EP on Shor most times I end up there. I was on Shor last night with a friend and the only fighting on the entire campaign seemed to be occurring at Ales mine, and it felt way too congested.

Haderus used to be a good overflow server with decent action assuming the queue on Vivec was too high, they really just need to get rid of Xarxes and Kastav. Even IC is abnormally more empty than usual, because farm groups have 4 campaigns to choose from to hide on.

PenguinInACan

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

I challenged your raid lead for a 5 v 10 open field. Received nothing but boastful empty talk, and no acceptance of my challenge while you all cowered on your own resource(after I wiped half your group in Ash and you all retreated to drop a camp and cap the mine) with a siege line. And you talking a big game "no one would fight us" idk, your "organized" guild seemed very scared to fight us without the odds stacked in your favor... while blatantly outnumbering us... But... no one would fight you?

I played leap frog with your organized group as if you were NPCs for me to do a rotation on, and you all just rezzed up as fast as you died for another coordinated ult bomb. Easy. I felt like I was doing a skyreach run on you all. If you did not have free port at nikel, we would have wiped you there and then.


If you are going to make snide insinuations, at least make sure you aren't omitting important convenient details.

For someone who has been showing off 30k dragon leaps, I'm not sure how you expected us to respond to that. Push into a defended keep against an avg 23-25k (with the ability to hit up to 30k) leap and db burst builds? All while running setups designed to not fight smaller groups. We never said we didn't outnumber you, but if this is the welcome AD gets on Shor, I can see why its lacking in consistent players. We didn't even come over there with the intention of pushing anything objectively and immediately got the salt-tells.

Very respectful server you guys have going on over there.

NBrookus

OdinForge wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

Yo kodi, we need more DC and AD players please specify this to your viewers. we already have alot of EP players on the server . Any more EP players and the server might become toxic "buff (ego) server".

Aside from Rickter and his DC group, it's really hard to find fights as EP on Shor most times I end up there. I was on Shor last night with a friend and the only fighting on the entire campaign seemed to be occurring at Ales mine, and it felt way too congested.

Haderus used to be a good overflow server with decent action assuming the queue on Vivec was too high, they really just need to get rid of Xarxes and Kastav. Even IC is abnormally more empty than usual, because farm groups have 4 campaigns to choose from to hide on.

Friday night the amount of EP was kinda gross. If Lord Hev hadn't had emp, I probably would have logged on to AD but as it was I just left. Weekends overall are overpopulated on the red side, especially since Requiem doesn't formally run Friday and Saturday nights.

casparian

PenguinInACan wrote: »

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

I challenged your raid lead for a 5 v 10 open field. Received nothing but boastful empty talk, and no acceptance of my challenge while you all cowered on your own resource(after I wiped half your group in Ash and you all retreated to drop a camp and cap the mine) with a siege line. And you talking a big game "no one would fight us" idk, your "organized" guild seemed very scared to fight us without the odds stacked in your favor... while blatantly outnumbering us... But... no one would fight you?

I played leap frog with your organized group as if you were NPCs for me to do a rotation on, and you all just rezzed up as fast as you died for another coordinated ult bomb. Easy. I felt like I was doing a skyreach run on you all. If you did not have free port at nikel, we would have wiped you there and then.


If you are going to make snide insinuations, at least make sure you aren't omitting important convenient details.

For someone who has been showing off 30k dragon leaps, I'm not sure how you expected us to respond to that. Push into a defended keep against an avg 23-25k (with the ability to hit up to 30k) leap and db burst builds? All while running setups designed to not fight smaller groups. We never said we didn't outnumber you, but if this is the welcome AD gets on Shor, I can see why its lacking in consistent players. We didn't even come over there with the intention of pushing anything objectively and immediately got the salt-tells.

Very respectful server you guys have going on over there.

Come fight DC: we respect the *** out of you!!

Kilandros

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Plenty of room for players in Shor, especially AD on the weekdays. But please don't bring your 16-24 plague doctor ball group.

We had 10, and the EP we were trying to fight on Shor were in a tower hiding from us with 6-8 including emp?
No plague doctor either. We then queued for Vivec since no one would fight us.

I challenged your raid lead for a 5 v 10 open field. Received nothing but boastful empty talk, and no acceptance of my challenge while you all cowered on your own resource(after I wiped half your group in Ash and you all retreated to drop a camp and cap the mine) with a siege line. And you talking a big game "no one would fight us" idk, your "organized" guild seemed very scared to fight us without the odds stacked in your favor... while blatantly outnumbering us... But... no one would fight you?

I played leap frog with your organized group as if you were NPCs for me to do a rotation on, and you all just rezzed up as fast as you died for another coordinated ult bomb. Easy. I felt like I was doing a skyreach run on you all. If you did not have free port at nikel, we would have wiped you there and then.


If you are going to make snide insinuations, at least make sure you aren't omitting important convenient details.

Saaavage

SirAndy

Velukodi wrote: »

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOR PVPERS

Your CAPS-LOCK key is stuck!

usmcjdking

Well, you've got to lead by example.

Just saying "we as a community yadda yadda feelgood QUEUE SHOR" doesn't mean ***. People want to PVP and if there is no PVP in Shor then people will not go to Shor. That means you may have many a boring night where you fight the same 2-3 people over and over and over because there is nothing else. It will eventually catch on, but it won't just 'happen'.