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Oi, What about a Bard Class?
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teiselaise✭✭✭Oh, yeeeah.. about that bard class, I don't know how great an idea that is, SOOOM BOODY ONCE TOLD ME THE WORLS IS GONNA ROLE YOU I AINT THE SHARPEST TOOL IN THE SHEEEEDDDD!!!!!Argonian masterrace0 -
teiselaise✭✭✭And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop comingArgonian masterrace0
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Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sounds more interesting than a necromancer class.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault0 -
Axoinus✭✭✭✭✭teiselaise wrote: »And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming And they don't stop coming
I'm betting drunk post right here.
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »A skill line that gives minor buffs , around 1-5% , for listening to music they create for 5 minutes . 5% XP , 5% inspiration boost with a maximum daily cap , 1 or 2% Majic , health or stamina regen for 1 hr . Maybe a harvesting buff for crafter to increase node pickups like treasure hunter in the cp tree for an hour . Players would have to choose one or two max of these buffs to be applied by the Bard . Install a tipping tray in a window to tip Bards for their inspiring songs when player accepts the buffs in a window .
@wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom this is interesting1 -
FrancisCrawford✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭In LOTRO the healer class was called "minstrel". I didn't find the metaphor terribly convincing, but it also wasn't objectionable.
In Dungeons & Dragons the bard started out as a rogue subtype, became a class that mixed physical weapons and magic, and by now is probably strongest as a pure magic class (combining magical themes from other magical classes). There's also the charisma/persuasion element, which goes well with some of what was in Morrowind, but doesn't exist in this came except via the Persuasion and Intimidation Mage's/Fighter's Guild passives.
Perhaps the best match to that archetype would be a class that had a grab bag of skills from other classes' lines: Cloak, Concealed, Ritual, Molten, Deal, BoL, a cc, some damage and so on1 -
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✭I like the idea of bard giving buffs such as stam regen and to have aim as well1 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If there's one thing this forum is good at its coming up with bad ideas.Edited by Runefang on October 7, 2017 1:58AM0 -
Hazurko_RaShan✭✭✭Some thrash metal that stuns the enemies? Sounds like a powerful aoe ult to me.Edited by Hazurko_RaShan on August 10, 2019 7:01PM3
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✭✭✭Well if it hasn't happened in the almost TWO YEARS since the death of this thread, I doubt it will be happening...0 -
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✭✭✭✭https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Classes#Bard
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/bard
Pure support class / hybrid magicka and stamina -- sword-n-board/dw, magical weapon (summoned) of choice (lute, flute, horn, fiddle).
A little bit healer, a little bit rogue. Chants and charms that buff (courage, inspiration, low visibility, expedition) and debuff (silence, maim, slow), basic background heals. Not hard to imagine.
Edited by mairwen85 on August 10, 2019 7:15PM4 -
Nanfoodle✭✭✭✭✭https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Classes#Bard
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/bard
Pure support class.
A little bit healer, a little bit rogue. Chants and charms that buff (courage, inspiration, low visibility, expedition) and debuff (silence, maim, slow), basic background heals. Not hard to imagine.
Love the links. Im a sure an ESO Bard could also do some DPS or Tank
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Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Classes#Bard
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/bard
Pure support class.
A little bit healer, a little bit rogue. Chants and charms that buff (courage, inspiration, low visibility, expedition) and debuff (silence, maim, slow), basic background heals. Not hard to imagine.
As a 99% solo friendly, very little grouping type game - ESO doesn't really work around a support only class.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Bouldercleave wrote: »Well if it hasn't happened in the almost TWO YEARS since the death of this thread, I doubt it will be happening...
The same was said of necromancer
Bouldercleave wrote: »https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Classes#Bard
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/bard
Pure support class.
A little bit healer, a little bit rogue. Chants and charms that buff (courage, inspiration, low visibility, expedition) and debuff (silence, maim, slow), basic background heals. Not hard to imagine.
As a 99% solo friendly, very little grouping type game - ESO doesn't really work around a support only class.
Love the links. Im a sure an ESO Bard could also do some DPS or Tank
Battle bard for dps.
In TES lore, bards are also experienced swordsmen, and are also medium and/or heavy armor: different chants and charms for tank (debilitation for example).
edit to add:
In typical ESO PAYW style, nothing is locked in on any class. Several classes are archetypal role based classes, but we have the freedom to build them beyond the archetype. The same would be true for Bard... why wouldn't it be?Edited by mairwen85 on August 10, 2019 7:21PM2 -
Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Bouldercleave wrote: »Well if it hasn't happened in the almost TWO YEARS since the death of this thread, I doubt it will be happening...
The same was said of necromancerBouldercleave wrote: »https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Classes#Bard
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/bard
Pure support class.
A little bit healer, a little bit rogue. Chants and charms that buff (courage, inspiration, low visibility, expedition) and debuff (silence, maim, slow), basic background heals. Not hard to imagine.
As a 99% solo friendly, very little grouping type game - ESO doesn't really work around a support only class.
Love the links. Im a sure an ESO Bard could also do some DPS or Tank
Battle bard for dps.
In TES lore, bards are also experienced swordsmen, and are also medium and/or heavy armor: different chants and charms for tank (debilitation for example).
edit to add:
In typical ESO PAYW style, nothing is locked in on any class. Several classes are archetypal role based classes, but we have the freedom to build them beyond the archetype. The same would be true for Bard... why wouldn't it be?
Which is EXACTLY why I responded to Nanfoodle about a support ONLY class.0 -
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✭Ide rather see a Monk Class rocking a Pole Arm....but you know how ZoS feels about Pole Arms
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✭✭✭✭✭As I said back when this thread was new and not a rotting draugr... "bard" would make a lot more sense as skill line for a guild-sized DLC like TG/DB, or Expansion like Summerset...
As in: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/387560/additional-guild-ideas-mk-ii
Because new classes are evil! EVIL I say!
At least for the old hands among us who already have made many characters, its -highly- vexing to see new classes added this late in the game, both for reasons of "Arrgh, why do I have to play through -everything- yet again to enjoy new classyness?" and even moreso because of "Why the [censored] was this [censored] class not [censored] available back at [censored] launch, it [censored] would have made so [censored] more [censored] sense for this [censored] main of mine... [censored], [Censored], [CENSORED]!!!"
And thus I will always prefer additions that can be refitted to -any- character, no matter iof newly created or played since launch!
I know how I feel about polearms: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii/p1UppGRAYxDD wrote: »Ide rather see a Monk Class rocking a Pole Arm....but you know how ZoS feels about Pole Arms
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✭✭✭✭✭very group supportive with a lot of buffs, debuffs and synergies - using songs, instruments, war crys, banners
healing skill line - focused on buffing enemies
tank skill liine - focused on using synergies
dd skill line - focused on debuffing enemies0 -
Nanfoodle✭✭✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »very group supportive with a lot of buffs, debuffs and synergies - using songs, instruments, war crys, banners
healing skill line - focused on buffing enemies
tank skill liine - focused on using synergies
dd skill line - focused on debuffing enemies
I would so play that. Bards are a big part of ESO and I think it would be nice to have a light hearted class after the necroEdited by Nanfoodle on August 10, 2019 10:18PM3 -
Devil_Keyz✭✭✭“ remix from Dk khalllleeedddd “ Red diamond RED DIAMOND - the plane meld is neigh!! Red Diamond - RED DIAMOND - the plane-meld is neigh!!!0 -
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✭✭✭✭probably a skill line
Now let this Necromancer sing you a tune
*Ah-em* ♪Everyone Dies♪0 -
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✭probably a skill line
Now let this Necromancer sing you a tune
*Ah-em* ♪Everyone Dies♪
It finally explains what happens in Loreena McKennitt's Bonny Swans:
He made harp pins of her fingers fair
A hey *** and me bonny o
He made harp strings of her golden hair
The swans swim so bonny o
He made a harp of her breast bone
A hey *** and me bonny o
And straight it began to play alone
The swans swim so bonny o
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✭unarmed skill line next.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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✭✭✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »very group supportive with a lot of buffs, debuffs and synergies - using songs, instruments, war crys, banners
healing skill line - focused on buffing enemies
tank skill liine - focused on using synergies
dd skill line - focused on debuffing enemies
I would so play that. Bards are a big part of ESO and I think it would be nice to have a light hearted class after the necro
i totally agree and they fit the lore very well since there is a bards college and the original games spotted classes such as swashbuckler, acrobat, spy, bard etc. these can all be very well covered by the bard as a lighthearted swashbuckling adventurer class that is not yet found in the game....
that being said, because there is basically a bards guild and there are theo ther guild skill lines because of that they might rather go the guild skill line route and implement a skill line similar to the undaunted that focuses on group support....2 -
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✭Going to make a classless build (no class skills) stick it with all music emotes and call him a bard.
Fun build... I hopeMain: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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✭✭✭✭✭I know which song I want my bards to sing...
"There was a knight who longed to wield... a more impressive lance..."
"...to carry into battle and... to aid him in romance!"
"Hey Hii, Hey Hoo, be careful what you wish for, for wished might come true!"
"A Daedra overheard the knight... and granted his request..."
"...at first the knight was overjoyed... to see how he was blessed!"
"Hey Hii, Hey Hoo, be careful what you wish for, for wished might come true!"
"The knight went to a festival... with his weapon thus enhanced..."
"...his lance made seating difficult... and tripped him when he danced!"
"Hey Hii, Hey Hoo, be careful what you wish for, for wished might come true!"
"The next day at tournament... he won the jopisting meets..."
"...for all who met his fearsome lance... fell laughing from their seats!"
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