Yay or Nay on removing the pvp faction restriction on characters

Lyserus

So, which morrowind and all previous DLCs, it is clearly we are not getting more faction-dependent quest/zone etc. Understandable, as making 3 different storylines in a single expansion/dlc will certainly shorten the time on each part and some ppl will complain "I can't experience it all on one char".

However, is pvp restriction on characters really needed anymore?
It's not like we don't already have spies.
It's not like a DC guild can't claim resource on a AD keep.
It's not like during one campaign duration only your characters in one faction can join in that campaign

The only thing faction restriction provides is restric ppl to freely use their characters in any factions. I mean, in pve sure, the start place and other things will be influenced, but in pvp there is really no need. Those with faction loyalty will fight for that one faction anyway, those who don't can switch char mid-campaign and join other faction zerg already anyway.
Also, removing restriction can let ppl freely "team fight" in cyrodii, as they can switch alliance on chars before enter cyrodii, as cyrodii is the only possible XvX place (battleground has to be 3 teams and I don't think ppl can decide what opponent they face)

If you really want to bond players to faction, let them choose each time they enter a new campaign duration (And probably only those have "any race, any alliance" can choose freely)
The current state faction restriction only provides unnecessary boundary. So let's remove it.

Simple Yay or Nay, if you don't care please don''t vote

Magdalina

...huh? What do you mean, "pvp faction restrictions"? There're no pvp "faction restrictions", there are, well, different factions which makes for actual pvp. Are you proposing pvp be removed altogether, or Cyrodiil turned into a giant free-for-all, or something else entirely?

Morgul667

Nay

Nay

Lyserus

Yay

Magdalina wrote: »

...huh? What do you mean, "pvp faction restrictions"? There're no pvp "faction restrictions", there are, well, different factions which makes for actual pvp. Are you proposing pvp be removed altogether, or Cyrodiil turned into a giant free-for-all, or something else entirely?

A “DC character” can only join in DC side forever. In short I'm proposing we all become mercenaries and all chars can free to pick faction when entering new campaign duration

DRXHarbinger

Nay

What so you can flip to the winning team each month?

Lyserus

Yay

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What so you can flip to the winning team each month?

You already can. For now you just need an alt is all.
Which is exactly my point. If ZOS doesn't want this they shouldn't have allow this in the first place. If they allow that, then let's remove restriction once and for all.

Please finish reading and check facts before you vote

Runschei

Nay

I'd rather not have this function.

If spies are the problem I think this function would rather increase the amount of spies than decrease them. People who originally play as only one alliance and has max character slots will now hsve the option to change that and spy. Petdonally I don't see spies at a problem at all, but I still don't like this idea.


And what will happen to that tiny room you get for free after doing housing quest? You only get one for free and its location is based on your alliance.

TequilaFire

Nay

They should revert to the way it was or restrict Alliance change to the end of a campaign.
The amount of cross alliance trolling this has created is really bad.

LadyNalcarya

Yay

Tbh I would like an alliance change token... Sure, it needs to be restricted, maybe "once per character" or something, but it would be great to pvp as my main. I cant do that now because my pvp guild fights for a different alliance.

Fischblut

Yay

I have 1 argonian character, and when I created him I didn't have "any race any alliance" upgrade... So he is naturally EP while all my other characters (khajiits and now also one redguard) are AD.
I used to tank on my khajiit dk, but after I tried argonian dk tank - I'm not looking forward to go back to khajiit tank And since I can't tank for my faction using my preferred character and I still haven't bought race change for khajiit dk, my dragon is actually a mule until we get alliance change token or removal of faction restriction.

Serjustin19

Yay

Aye

IcyDeadPeople

Nay

I'm OK with some sort of faction change scroll that allows people to change faction, but it should be expensive and require giving up your alliance rank and any associated skill points. If you switch your allegiance to a new army, you shouldn't be starting out as Grand Overlord.

Mithoron

I do not believe the pure black or white answer...I would prefer a one-time character change, or once per season change of faction allowing people to change, but make it extremely limiting...

Jade1986

Nay

Hell. No. Then the already silly faction hopping would get even worse.

Oh, we are doing bad, lets everyone jump over to x Faction.

Would be stupid AF.

WildWilbur

Nay

Never!

DRXHarbinger

Nay

Lyserus wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What so you can flip to the winning team each month?

You already can. For now you just need an alt is all.
Which is exactly my point. If ZOS doesn't want this they shouldn't have allow this in the first place. If they allow that, then let's remove restriction once and for all.

Please finish reading and check facts before you vote

No you cannot, maintaining the top 2% on two toons is nigh impossible with having some kind of life. You cannot be top of the boards on one toon in the 3rd of the alliance and pop over to the winning team and get all the gold rewards. The rest of it is pointless and not worth crying about. If you have an alt for playing in another faction why do you need to change? Oh right you want to flip right over into the winning team and hoover up the goodies.

Gilvoth

Nay

i approve of loyalty, what this pole is suggesting is removal of loyalty.
so i vote no.

technohic

Yay

I've been all for this so long as you are not allowed to switch factions whatsoever mid campaign cycle, increase the reward for playing the undermanned faction while decreasing the reward further for being in the highest pop faction, and let players have the chance to balance the sides with the right motivation.

Darkestnght

Yay

Personally I want the ability to permanently change a few of my toons alliance. I have 3 toons I have leveled all the way yet I never play on them, they are not in the alliance I have been loyal to in PvP.

At first when I created my toons alliance did not matter to me, I did not even PvP for the first year or so. Now that I am heavily invested in PvP I would like all my toons to be in the same alliance. That would be awesome, for me!

Dojohoda

Yay

Let people queue in on the alliance of their choice for the duration of the campaign.

The people who would do this might prefer a permanent alliance change, but zos has not made that available.

peasant007

Nay

*My character rides into a DC home fort wearing EP style armor with EP colors*

"Oh hi, guys! I'm TOTALLY not a spy! *shifty eyes*"

Once I decided to become (somewhat) dedicated to PvPing in this game, I deleted all my characters who weren't part of the faction that my guild was loyal to. It's not that hard to level up a new character and it's not like the gear your characters have is locked to that character only. Not to mention: Any AP you've earned can be deposited into the bank, so it's also not wasted.

The only thing that's "wasted" is your time, and if you enjoyed leveling the character, was it truly wasted?

Maybe it's just me, my like for Alts, and my complete disregard for getting overly attached to my PvP characters who get deleted once they Vet out of Kyne (my preferred campaign). *shrugs*

Dottzgaming

Nay

laced wrote: »

Hell. No. Then the already silly faction hopping would get even worse.

Oh, we are doing bad, lets everyone jump over to x Faction.

Would be stupid AF.

This. Wow had faction changes and it caused ridiculous population differences in the factions. Also, there would be nothing stopping everyone to just switching to the winning team on their main. It's just a horrible idea for this game.

I do though, think you should be able to switch your guilds faction. But that's just me and a whole other topic

jaws343

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Lyserus wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

What so you can flip to the winning team each month?

You already can. For now you just need an alt is all.
Which is exactly my point. If ZOS doesn't want this they shouldn't have allow this in the first place. If they allow that, then let's remove restriction once and for all.

Please finish reading and check facts before you vote

No you cannot, maintaining the top 2% on two toons is nigh impossible with having some kind of life. You cannot be top of the boards on one toon in the 3rd of the alliance and pop over to the winning team and get all the gold rewards. The rest of it is pointless and not worth crying about. If you have an alt for playing in another faction why do you need to change? Oh right you want to flip right over into the winning team and hoover up the goodies.

Or maybe you created alts in other factions before doing any PVP or gaining the Any Race Any Alliance add-on and want to switch those alts to your main PVP faction in a reasonable manner. I know I have alts that were created when I first started playing that I only PVE with because I don't want to play in the other factions in PVP. Being able to change alliance on them would allow me to play them for the campaign I want.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Nay

Tandor

Nay

But for the megaserver concept, I'd support one faction only on your characters per server, and even with the megaserver concept there's a lot of sense in restricting guilds to one faction.

I don't currently PvP although I have done so in other games before, and foremost among the things most likely to deter me from ever doing so again would be the idea that anyone could just switch to the winning faction at any time. Without a sense of belonging and loyalty, there really is very little point to "factional PvP" as opposed to "PvP". That is a significant difference, and it should remain so in ESO.

altemriel

Nay

Lyserus wrote: »

So, which morrowind and all previous DLCs, it is clearly we are not getting more faction-dependent quest/zone etc. Understandable, as making 3 different storylines in a single expansion/dlc will certainly shorten the time on each part and some ppl will complain "I can't experience it all on one char".

However, is pvp restriction on characters really needed anymore?
It's not like we don't already have spies.
It's not like a DC guild can't claim resource on a AD keep.
It's not like during one campaign duration only your characters in one faction can join in that campaign

The only thing faction restriction provides is restric ppl to freely use their characters in any factions. I mean, in pve sure, the start place and other things will be influenced, but in pvp there is really no need. Those with faction loyalty will fight for that one faction anyway, those who don't can switch char mid-campaign and join other faction zerg already anyway.
Also, removing restriction can let ppl freely "team fight" in cyrodii, as they can switch alliance on chars before enter cyrodii, as cyrodii is the only possible XvX place (battleground has to be 3 teams and I don't think ppl can decide what opponent they face)

If you really want to bond players to faction, let them choose each time they enter a new campaign duration (And probably only those have "any race, any alliance" can choose freely)
The current state faction restriction only provides unnecessary boundary. So let's remove it.

Simple Yay or Nay, if you don't care please don''t vote

well maybe you do not understand, that PVP, Cyrodiil is about war of the 3 factions, so it are no restrictions, but the main idea of that zone

idk

Nay

It would be completely silly absurd to remove faction locks in Cyrodiil. Really don't know where to begin with explaining why since it's so obvious. What OP is saying seems to ignore logic.

Lys. Even if your poll is was in favor of what you suggest it will never change. It's faction based PvP. Factions need to remain. I would figure that would be obvious.