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9 Stamina Trial Runs

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The Mercs of Sovngarde are back at it again, with the cool strictly non-meta 9-stam runs. Enjoy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOwifmQ_L6s
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    Ayyy yooo

    That was fun. We gotta do more.
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    Haha soon :smile:
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    It could be non-meta night if it had happened a few months earlier. For now it's definitly meta night.
    But you can still make 12 stams raid to be non-meta :)
    Everything is viable
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    Ladislao wrote: »
    It could be non-meta night if it had happened a few months earlier. For now it's definitly meta night.
    But you can still make 12 stams raid to be non-meta :)

    9 stam is definitely not meta. Our group off-balance is like 6-8% :D
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    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?
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  • Yngol
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:
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    Yngol wrote: »
    Ladislao wrote: »
    It could be non-meta night if it had happened a few months earlier. For now it's definitly meta night.
    But you can still make 12 stams raid to be non-meta :)

    9 stam is definitely not meta. Our group off-balance is like 6-8% :D

    Why not have healer use a charged staff with shock glyph then?
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    Ladislao wrote: »
    It could be non-meta night if it had happened a few months earlier. For now it's definitly meta night.
    But you can still make 12 stams raid to be non-meta :)

    9 stam is definitely not meta. Our group off-balance is like 6-8% :D

    Why not have healer use a charged staff with shock glyph then?

    We did. They also ran lightning wall. Unfortunately, off-balance gets consumed way too fast with only 2 lightning walls and 9 stam dudes constantly heavy attacking.
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    Yngol wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    Ladislao wrote: »
    It could be non-meta night if it had happened a few months earlier. For now it's definitly meta night.
    But you can still make 12 stams raid to be non-meta :)

    9 stam is definitely not meta. Our group off-balance is like 6-8% :D

    Why not have healer use a charged staff with shock glyph then?

    We did. They also ran lightning wall. Unfortunately, off-balance gets consumed way too fast with only 2 lightning walls and 9 stam dudes constantly heavy attacking.

    You should have forced the tank to also use woe :D and to dodge roll more to make use of the cp passive(tactician) for off balance

    Btw what addon it that on the left side below grp window?
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    Zer0oo wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    Ladislao wrote: »
    It could be non-meta night if it had happened a few months earlier. For now it's definitly meta night.
    But you can still make 12 stams raid to be non-meta :)

    9 stam is definitely not meta. Our group off-balance is like 6-8% :D

    Why not have healer use a charged staff with shock glyph then?

    We did. They also ran lightning wall. Unfortunately, off-balance gets consumed way too fast with only 2 lightning walls and 9 stam dudes constantly heavy attacking.

    You should have forced the tank to also use woe :D and to dodge roll more to make use of the cp passive(tactician) for off balance

    Btw what addon it that on the left side below grp window?

    Haha I am the tank, and did think about it.. Maybee next time :smiley:

    It's called group damage share; it is not really a spy addon though. Others need to have it installed as well
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    lol "essential add ons" and ps4 is still here, zero add ons.
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    kessik221 wrote: »
    lol "essential add ons" and ps4 is still here, zero add ons.

    Lol right, except many of the "essential addons" are getting incorporated into the base UI slowly over time. Like, say, buff tracking.
    But anyhow, I don't want to turn this into an addon debate. I like everything that is on my screen, I feel like it's beneficial to see group dps, as well al warhorn statuses. If you don't, that's fine. Whatever rocks your boat.
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    Yngol wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:

    Because no matter what music you choose, someone will not want to hear it and immediately close the video, it is just better to use the games audio if you want the widest audience.
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    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D
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  • Yngol
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    Yngol wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:

    Because no matter what music you choose, someone will not want to hear it and immediately close the video, it is just better to use the games audio if you want the widest audience.

    I mean that's fair, but like I said, lots of eso (and other) clips have music over them :D
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:
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    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?
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    Yngol wrote: »
    The Mercs of Sovngarde are back at it again, with the cool strictly non-meta 9-stam runs. Enjoy :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOwifmQ_L6s

    YESSSS!

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    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:

    Because no matter what music you choose, someone will not want to hear it and immediately close the video, it is just better to use the games audio if you want the widest audience.

    I mean that's fair, but like I said, lots of eso (and other) clips have music over them :D

    As I am sure you know, just because other people are doing something doesn't make it right or the best way to do that thing.
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    I once asked why they both don't have on sentinel of rekugums, he said it was crap. Seems to me it would be best in a group like this.
  • Yngol
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    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:

    Because no matter what music you choose, someone will not want to hear it and immediately close the video, it is just better to use the games audio if you want the widest audience.

    I mean that's fair, but like I said, lots of eso (and other) clips have music over them :D

    As I am sure you know, just because other people are doing something doesn't make it right or the best way to do that thing.
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    I once asked why they both don't have on sentinel of rekugums, he said it was crap. Seems to me it would be best in a group like this.

    If you look carefully, the healers beam the ads (so that the dps can stay focused on killing valeriel). Skoria is the best monstere helm for that job :D r'kugams sounds nice on paper but isn't all that great in practice unfortunately
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    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:

    Because no matter what music you choose, someone will not want to hear it and immediately close the video, it is just better to use the games audio if you want the widest audience.

    I mean that's fair, but like I said, lots of eso (and other) clips have music over them :D

    As I am sure you know, just because other people are doing something doesn't make it right or the best way to do that thing.
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    I once asked why they both don't have on sentinel of rekugums, he said it was crap. Seems to me it would be best in a group like this.

    If you look carefully, the healers beam the ads (so that the dps can stay focused on killing valeriel). Skoria is the best monstere helm for that job :D r'kugams sounds nice on paper but isn't all that great in practice unfortunately

    I have used it plenty and in stack and burn fights, it is great. I had it proc basically off cool down and hit 612 times. So 612*506=300,000 Stam returned. Average around 30k per person and that is an extra 10 to 12 Stam ablity, like three or four heavy attacks saved, double that if you have the other healer wearing it too. That seems worth it to me.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.
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  • Yngol
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    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Good lord the clutter.

    Also what was wrong with just audio from the game?

    I feel like everything that's on the screen is essential, so i don't think it's too cluttered.

    As for the game audio, I don't know; is it a revolutionary concept to put music over eso clips? :dizzy:

    Because no matter what music you choose, someone will not want to hear it and immediately close the video, it is just better to use the games audio if you want the widest audience.

    I mean that's fair, but like I said, lots of eso (and other) clips have music over them :D

    As I am sure you know, just because other people are doing something doesn't make it right or the best way to do that thing.
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    I once asked why they both don't have on sentinel of rekugums, he said it was crap. Seems to me it would be best in a group like this.

    If you look carefully, the healers beam the ads (so that the dps can stay focused on killing valeriel). Skoria is the best monstere helm for that job :D r'kugams sounds nice on paper but isn't all that great in practice unfortunately

    I have used it plenty and in stack and burn fights, it is great. I had it proc basically off cool down and hit 612 times. So 612*506=300,000 Stam returned. Average around 30k per person and that is an extra 10 to 12 Stam ablity, like three or four heavy attacks saved, double that if you have the other healer wearing it too. That seems worth it to me.

    We tried it a while ago, and didn't like it. For Valeriel, specifically, we found that having that 2-3 skoria proc per ad allowed us to send fewer dps on gardening duty, and speed up the fight as a result
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.

    I use a master resto and a 2 piece, have five SPC and will power. Works fine.
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.

    For our group at least, we found that both master architect and torugs increased the group dps over having a master resto
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.

    I use a master resto and a 2 piece, have five SPC and will power. Works fine.

    While that may work fine, losing out on a second 5-piece set (be it worm, master architect or mending) is just not worth it in my opinion; making 3 willpower suboptimal
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    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.

    I use a master resto and a 2 piece, have five SPC and will power. Works fine.

    While that may work fine, losing out on a second 5-piece set (be it worm, master architect or mending) is just not worth it in my opinion; making 3 willpower suboptimal

    I didn't say it was optimal, I actually use 3 transmutation for more regen in the use case that you have there, can never have enough in 12 man stuff.
  • Yngol
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    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.

    I use a master resto and a 2 piece, have five SPC and will power. Works fine.

    While that may work fine, losing out on a second 5-piece set (be it worm, master architect or mending) is just not worth it in my opinion; making 3 willpower suboptimal

    I didn't say it was optimal, I actually use 3 transmutation for more regen in the use case that you have there, can never have enough in 12 man stuff.

    As I said, you not running a second 5-piece to compliment spc is suboptimal. Are you a raid healer? Are you on PC NA?
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    Yngol wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Yngol wrote: »
    code65536 wrote: »
    Why is Ish wearing Worm when you don't have any magicka DPS? :D

    Hahahahaha because she was a last-second replacement. Usually, the 2 healers wear:

    Master architect+spc+2 skoria
    Torugs (lightning enchant)+spc+2 skoria

    Strictly for 9stam vaa ofc :smiley:

    Why skoria?

    The use of any 2p set with two other 5p sets means sacrificing a Master's Resto, which seems like an unusual choice for an all-stam group.

    I use a master resto and a 2 piece, have five SPC and will power. Works fine.

    While that may work fine, losing out on a second 5-piece set (be it worm, master architect or mending) is just not worth it in my opinion; making 3 willpower suboptimal

    I didn't say it was optimal, I actually use 3 transmutation for more regen in the use case that you have there, can never have enough in 12 man stuff.

    As I said, you not running a second 5-piece to compliment spc is suboptimal. Are you a raid healer? Are you on PC NA?

    I have healed all vet trials except for vhof as a Templar healer. I see what you said. You are implying that I implyed that it was "optimal", this is not the case. It is really funny that you are the one that started a thread that includes the words " non-meta" and now are giving me crap about being " suboptimal". The irony is strong.
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