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Remove the laser beam tether from Warden Betty?

  • Tryxus
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    No, leave the laser beam tether.
    Nuu :( then he'll no longer be my "Netch-That-Poots"
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  • theher0not
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    No, leave the laser beam tether.
    I like the beam, it is a nice way to see weither it is up or if I need to recast it (sometimes I have too many buffs to easily keep track of it on my buff bar).

    Though the bug that makes the beam dissapear needs to be fixed, sometimes it is just floating there doing nothing while the buff is still active.
  • red_emu
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    Either remove it or make sorcs pets have a super bright laser beam leash. Oh and it should be visible in stealth! Thank you for delivering luke warm class with jedi sword betty ZoS. I hope you enjoy my money.
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  • Cinbri
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    No, leave the laser beam tether.
    Laser shows that netch empower you. no laser=no empower, just flying netch, so why than there should be flying useless netch around=remove it=skill wont proc necropotence than :pensive: #logic
  • Megabear
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    Delete.
    Edited by Megabear on September 12, 2017 9:15PM
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  • PlagueSD
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    No, leave the laser beam tether.
    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Too shiny but if they remove it people will complain that they cant see the netch is still here or not ^^

    This..In groups, that's the only way I know my betty is still up. With all the other sorc pets, non-combat pets, merchants, bankers, fences, and loads of lightning effects all over the place, the beam is the ONLY way I know my netch is still active.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    It's ugly and intrusive. I don't need a bright particle effect in my face at all times.

    Having a netch floating next to me is more than enough to know the buff is up (if you're on PC you have buff/action trackers too).
  • LEBIATH
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    Other: Please explain what you would like ZOS to do with the Betty effects.
    I like having the netch I don't like having it randomly block the screen when I move around I think it would be better if it was above the players head like a mana shield that sorcs in Diablo 2 have
    Edited by LEBIATH on September 12, 2017 11:05PM
  • Enslaved
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    supaskrub wrote: »
    laced wrote: »
    At the very least the colors needed to be kept the same for the magicka and stamina morph because it literally tells the enemy which poison to use against you.

    Its a zero cost regen ability and you want it "stealthed" so others can't tell whether your build is mag or stam.. Its right that it gives an indication of the players build, imo being a free cast ability there should still be a price to pay and if being identified as a stam or mag build is that price then so be it.

    Quick hint. If you see a destro staff, it is most likely a magicka based build. Btw, any tanking oriented build would want to use stamina morph anyway.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    The beam not only distinguishes it as a combat pet but also lets enemies in PVP to identify which player is using the skill.

    Crown store pets are disabled in pvp and usually arent allowed in trials. If you're a warden that uses betty and you also have a non-combat one, you can see a small marking at the one you've summoned (like on sorc pets).
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  • ArcaneBlue
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    the netch tether is inconsistent and I would like glow or something instead, yes.

    my blue betty sometimes tethers me sometimes does not, it still gives me major sorcery and magicka but it often just floats like a non combat pet.
    the other day I was in a fungal grotto II group, during the second boss fight the tank and I were tethered then I kept running and running and running, thinking "why am I still tethered!" turns out it was just my blue betty that I was trying to run away from, doh!
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  • Phinix1
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
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  • Vaoh
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    I actually like the effect, but it is way too overdone.

    If a tether must be there, it should appear like the weaker, about to break visual from Guard.
  • ThePrinceOfBargains
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    While they're at it, they should remove the beam from the vampire drain too. They don't drain blood with that move; they steal life energy. I don't see why the essence is this physical, silly-looking beam. A couple years back, there was this glitch that removed most beams from the game. Looked dumb for the Templar Jesus beam, but it looked awesome for the vampire drain imo.
    Edited by ThePrinceOfBargains on September 13, 2017 3:51AM
  • Mojmir
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    Other: Please explain what you would like ZOS to do with the Betty effects.
    Have it glow, as is now its bugging out with path finding and the beam doesn't always show anyways.
  • Chronicburn
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    What's the point of stealth if you have this thing everyone can see when u r in stealth?
  • red_emu
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    I have a suggestion. Instead of Betty floating around, just have it on the character, like so:

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    Falathren - AD StamSorc
    Falathren Eryndaer - AD StamDen
    Falathren Irimion - AD MagPlar
    Talagan Falathren - AD StamDK
    Falathren Infernis - AD MagDK
    Your-Ex - AD MagBlade
  • Phinix1
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    Does anyone remember back in the day when the Mage Guild ability Mage Light (and morphs) caused that glowing orb to orbit around your character?

    First ZOS added an option to the video settings to disable it because it was causing players siezure problems. Then they removed it altogether.

    As someone with a Brain Cavernoma with recurring hemorrhagic stroke this ability is causing me micro siezure issues and preventing me from enjoying my Warden more than Mage Light ever did.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Can we please pass on this request to add an option to disable to Betty Beam fireworks display for people who have health issues, so they can enjoy the new class they paid for?
  • Vietfox
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    No, leave the laser beam tether.
    If u are gonna remove the beam i want my vamp characters to look like humans.
  • Storymaster
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    I thought the title of this thread was "Remove the Laser Beam from Warren Beatty."

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    That is all. Carry on.
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  • Phinix1
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    I thought the title of this thread was "Remove the Laser Beam from Warren Beatty."

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    That is all. Carry on.

    One does not simply remove laser beam from Warren Beatty. XD
  • Myyth
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    Yes please remove it.
    It's gaudy, tacky and doesn't go with my shoes.
  • Chronicburn
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    After what they are doing to the magblade this patch you don't deserve help either

    Wish I could change my vote because I'm pis sed
    Edited by Chronicburn on September 19, 2017 6:54PM
  • scipionumatia
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    Other: Please explain what you would like ZOS to do with the Betty effects.
    I like seeing it knowing that it is active, the color of blue or green giving away your class is kina redundant. is he holding a stick or a sword? lol (I know mage builds use SnB sometimes) Dress or armor is also a pretty good give away too (but but scipio costumes! yeah I know,, just speaking generally)
    and its not like someone is going to go equip a poison mid fight to counter your type, that would be a problem for dueling and dueling alone but if you watch anyone duel you can tell what they are based on the skills theyre using. if your a warden and you wanna duel just don't have your netch up if its that big of a secret.

    That being said, I'm not a fan of the beam animation but I don't absolutely hate it.
    OP @Phinix1 made a point of seizures, I never thought of it like that as those aren't an issue for me but that is kinda a good point. granted this game has metric butt tons of flashing effects.

    I wouldn't mind if its changed, wouldn't mind if its not. it shouldn't give players away in stealth. If it was going to be changed id like some kind of que that the effect is active aside from the row of buffs that add up across the bottom of my screen.
    Maybe a green/blue leaf looking aura or a warden bear paw light under your character.
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  • Storymaster
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    "Phinix1 wrote:
    One does not simply remove laser beam from Warren Beatty. XD

    Indeed, good man.
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  • _Salty_
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    All of the wardens animations are ugly in my opinion. Ill never make one due to this. I cant spend months/years looking at ugly animations.
    Psn l---Salty---l

    Patiently waiting to make a Stankcromancer.
  • sigirri
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    No, leave the laser beam tether.
    Stop trying to make warden less unique. It's effects are the best part. I have 3 wardens, don't ruin them for people who love them. If you don't like warden, don't play it.
  • Phinix1
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    Warden, Fixes & Improvements
    • Animal Companions
      • Betty Netch: Reduced the intensity of the visual effects from this ability and its morphs.

    I am truly saddened to report that if this was in fact changed on the PTS, it makes essentially no visual difference whatsoever and does nothing to help people like myself who have trouble playing Warden due to health issues caused by this radically overblown and totally out of place visual effect.

    Back when Mage Light had an orb orbiting the player and it was causing headaches and other problems, ZOS first added an option to disable it in visual settings and then finally removed it altogether. This terrible effect is 10x worse than that ever was.

    As someone with a Brain Cavernoma causing recurring hemorrhagic stroke, this effect is preventing me from enjoying the class that was one of the main reasons I bought Morrowind in the first place. After a short time looking at this effect I have a horrible headache and start suffering micro-siezures, and end up having to just log off and lay down.

    The beam is still WAY too bright and the sparkle effec ton the player is like a radioactive bee swarm; WAY over done. The whole thing is out of place with nearly every other ability in the game.

    I suggest leaving the glow around the betty, removing the current visual from the player and adding something more SUBTLE like swirling leaves with way less glow, and either remove the beam or make it near transparent.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno if the devs are married to this jarring unnatural beam for some reason, can you at least ask them to PLEASE add a toggle like they did for the Mage Light effect when it was causing siezures?

    The idea that it is needed to identify a build is obsolete by costumes and sword+shield PVP builds anyway.
  • Vindold
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    Yes, please remove the bright laser beam tether part of the effect.
    I agree, beam is annoying..it looks great but we need our Betty all the time and I don't really like to have this beam on me 24h a day.

    I wish that some day Devs will remove beam and make Betty toggleable instead of ~20sec duration, because it's just annoying to recast it over and over again.

    New skins for bear(wolf?) and betty(raven?) wouldn't hurt either, but it never going to happen, sadly.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Holy necro batfolks!
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