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Replace Rewards for the Worthy with the Pelinal's Boxes permanently

  • NBrookus
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    The motifs could be dropped altogether. Tel Var, alchemy mats, the rare hakeijo, siege and repair kits would be great rewards.
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  • sirston
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    also if anyone was wonder about 250,000k Tel var stones for the outfits you would have to open 3,086.4 Boxes at 81 Telvar per box.
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  • Drummerx04
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    Gift boxes were pretty awesome. DC players even put out camps for each other during the event because they were free in the mail. They felt like actual rewards for participating in pvp.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    I'm very happy to see such unanimity in the responses.

    C'mon ZOS, please let us know your thoughts!

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  • Jitterbug
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    What a great idea!
  • NightbladeMechanics
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    Rickter wrote: »
    actually @NightbladeMechanics id argue to keep telvar and hakeijos. but the akaviri pages need to go.

    I understand you like to price your hard earned hakeijo for 12k a pop and its a major source of income for you, but for the majority of players, it opens that potential monetary gain and gives opportunities for players that find IC hard to solo a chance at the valuable item. With proper drop rates, Hakeijo in RftW shouldnt be a problem. Keep in mind that hakeijo drop from normal rune nodes these days, not just IC. in that regard, hakeijo are no different from the alchemy mats that drop from pelinal boxes.

    In regards to Telvar - this is very special too in that those without the IC DLC will build up Telvar that they will want to spent which would prompt them to sub for a month or purchase the DLC.

    Akaviri pages have always been pvp specific and its really the only thing that you have to PVP to get. telvar can be farmed off mobs in IC and hakeijo can be farmed in overworld Tamriel. Akaviri pages are only earned via AP cost, and ap doesnt drop out of pelinal boxes thus, shouldnt be in the line up.

    The prices of Hakeijos, Alliance, and Akaviri motifs tanked by over 50% each this week. There isn't enough demand in the markets to have them in the loot table long term. Giving every PvPer "valuable item" drops doesn't increase PvPer income -- it just decreases the value of the items. Supply and demand, buddy.

    Your point about tel var is valid. I can actually get behind the incentive to get people to sub, but keep in mind that you're further diluting an already fragile market and decreasing the tel var to gold conversion rate. You won't actually make any player richer with that change either. You'll just give ZOS more subs.

    And your logic on Akaviri motifs would exclude them, siege, and forward camps from the boxes. Keep that in mind.

    I sell my goods at fair market prices. If I didn't, I wouldn't sell so much. I make lots of gold because I know how to get ahead of markets -- any markets. If you degrade the tel var market, I'll just move on to another one. I recommend you learn how markets work before making suggestions to change them.
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  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    [Meme]. Cold fire siege. Cold fire siege everywhere.
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    A box for every 20k AP might be a bit much. Maybe 50k? But still keep the other rewards for the worthy.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Rickter wrote: »
    actually @NightbladeMechanics id argue to keep telvar and hakeijos. but the akaviri pages need to go.

    I understand you like to price your hard earned hakeijo for 12k a pop and its a major source of income for you, but for the majority of players, it opens that potential monetary gain and gives opportunities for players that find IC hard to solo a chance at the valuable item. With proper drop rates, Hakeijo in RftW shouldnt be a problem. Keep in mind that hakeijo drop from normal rune nodes these days, not just IC. in that regard, hakeijo are no different from the alchemy mats that drop from pelinal boxes.

    In regards to Telvar - this is very special too in that those without the IC DLC will build up Telvar that they will want to spent which would prompt them to sub for a month or purchase the DLC.

    Akaviri pages have always been pvp specific and its really the only thing that you have to PVP to get. telvar can be farmed off mobs in IC and hakeijo can be farmed in overworld Tamriel. Akaviri pages are only earned via AP cost, and ap doesnt drop out of pelinal boxes thus, shouldnt be in the line up.

    The prices of Hakeijos, Alliance, and Akaviri motifs tanked by over 50% each this week. There isn't enough demand in the markets to have them in the loot table long term. Giving every PvPer "valuable item" drops doesn't increase PvPer income -- it just decreases the value of the items. Supply and demand, buddy.

    Your point about tel var is valid. I can actually get behind the incentive to get people to sub, but keep in mind that you're further diluting an already fragile market and decreasing the tel var to gold conversion rate. You won't actually make any player richer with that change either. You'll just give ZOS more subs.

    And your logic on Akaviri motifs would exclude them, siege, and forward camps from the boxes. Keep that in mind.

    I sell my goods at fair market prices. If I didn't, I wouldn't sell so much. I make lots of gold because I know how to get ahead of markets -- any markets. If you degrade the tel var market, I'll just move on to another one. I recommend you learn how markets work before making suggestions to change them.

    Without a doubt they'd need to visit the loot tables of the boxes themselves for day to day use. They're a little rich atm to be used exactly as they are. I think the thing most people are interested in seeing is the Tel Var, the alchemy mats, and the siege equipment. Add in the odd faction motif and that'd still be useful.
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  • PainfulFAFA
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    +1

    But remove tel var and Hakeijos, reduce drop chances on motifs slightly to preserve the markets long term, add in some more housing items, increase alchemy mat drops, and add in all the unrepresented types of siege.

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    Edited by PainfulFAFA on August 1, 2017 9:10PM
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  • Theodard
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    I mean I would be fine with repair kits, sometimes some Tel Var, and alchemy items. Once in a great while maybe a motif or a Cold <Fire|Stone> siege.
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  • NightbladeMechanics
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    I wanna see more ice trebs in Cyrodiil. Lord knows no one will buy them on their own. #MakeCyrodiilFrostyAgain
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  • Morbash
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    Yes, please. :)
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  • NightbladeMechanics
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    Also @Rickter Hakeijos definitely do not drop from overland Runestones.
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  • Rickter
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    ah my mistake, i couldve swore they changed that at homestead. . @NightbladeMechanics
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  • zyk
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    Rewards definitely need to be revamped. I find it stressful to deal with current reward mail after a long AvA session.

    But using the event boxes would quickly result in us being back at square one as the gold value of the items offered would eventually drop to nothing and we'd be complaining about deleting motifs, etc..

    I want ZOS to invest the resources to rework rewards properly. No more half-assed solutions. Some of ESO's most loyal players can be found in Cyrodiil. We deserve better.
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    zyk wrote: »
    Rewards definitely need to be revamped. I find it stressful to deal with current reward mail after a long AvA session.

    But using the event boxes would quickly result in us being back at square one as the gold value of the items offered would eventually drop to nothing and we'd be complaining about deleting motifs, etc..

    I want ZOS to invest the resources to rework rewards properly. No more half-assed solutions. Some of ESO's most loyal players can be found in Cyrodiil. We deserve better.

    That's another key reason to dump Rewards for the Worthy in their current form.

    It should not be a chore to deal with your rewards; it should be rewarding and fun.

    Anyone who has had 50+ junk items stacked in their mail knows what I'm talking about. This stuff is garbage 99 times out of a 100, waiting to be turned into a grain solvent or an embroidery.
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  • Zvorgin
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    I'm on board. This is a great idea!
  • fastolfv_ESO
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    every reward of the worthy should just be a few k gold and one of the alchemy bags from IC. You can easily power through 20k a day in pots with 0 return
  • Taysa
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    Zoliru wrote: »
    Taysa wrote: »
    Agreed.

    Though I'd reduce the chance of cold fire. Or take them out completely. Same with camps. Those things dropped entirely too much.

    coldfire is the only siege that actualy does dmg to anything that has a brain nowdays... so no it needs to stay...

    You'd be surprised what an organized group can do with a proper siege defense, or offense.

    If you need coldfire to be able to take a keep or defend a keep, you need to change your strategy.
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  • Talcyndl
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    I got a rewards for the worthy mail today and was actually excited...then remembered that the event is over. :(

    Instead, it's just a chore to deal with ANOTHER useless (and basically worthless) piece of gear.
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  • Ishammael
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    Yes!!!!
  • aegisfire1975
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    A change to the rewards for the worthy would be refreshing.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    i shud of made this thread..... agree goldmine :*
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  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    Keeping this at the top of the page.
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  • sirston
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    Edited by sirston on August 3, 2017 4:01PM
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  • PainfulFAFA
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    Bumping this since theres not much else to discuss until we hear from zos
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  • Fur_like_snow
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    Yes please. RotW is junk mail. The event boxes actually felt rewarding.
  • Rozenwyn
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    I'd definitely love something to be done to RftW. Whether it's this or something else... I don't know but something needs to change. However I would say not to have coldfire siege in them. It's supposed to be rarer and now people are using it on walls because they have so many!
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  • zyk
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    Rozenwyn wrote: »
    I'd definitely love something to be done to RftW. Whether it's this or something else... I don't know but something needs to change. However I would say not to have coldfire siege in them. It's supposed to be rarer and now people are using it on walls because they have so many!

    I will admit to having some fun with coldfire during the event -- and I have quite a few remaining >:) -- but yeah, I would hate for them to be so common all the time. Many wtf deaths turned out to be invisible CF.
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