Should Ulti's be dodgeable?

zacvanm

Seems like every time I use Dawnbreaker, someone dodges it. If one can't be dodged (DK Leap) then you shouldn't be able to dodge any.

SodanTok

Dawnbreaker is bugged. Will be undodgeable again next patch

Solariken

Depends on the ultimate, they all are supposed to have appropriate and varied forms of counterplay. But as the above comment says Dawnbreaker is getting fixed and won't be dodgeable next patch.

zacvanm

No

SodanTok wrote: »

Dawnbreaker is bugged. Will be undodgeable again next patch

Incap can also be dodged. I just think since it's an ULTIMATE ability then none should be dodgeable.

SodanTok

zacvanm wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

Dawnbreaker is bugged. Will be undodgeable again next patch

Incap can also be dodged. I just think since it's an ULTIMATE ability then none should be dodgeable.

Yeah, keep thinking that. But incap is dodgeable by design, dawnbreaker is undodgeable by design. Both choices are for sake of balance not some labels. Incap would receive some pretty big nerfs mostly to the cost if it became undodgeable.

T1y4hoon

No

I'm pretty sure you can dodge dragonleap, or at least the CC

NBrookus

T1y4hoon wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can dodge dragonleap, or at least the CC

You can't dodge it, but you can block it and outrange it. Altho outranging it is really only feasible if you are in full retreat mode.

Savos_Saren

NBrookus wrote: »

T1y4hoon wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can dodge dragonleap, or at least the CC

You can't dodge it, but you can block it and outrange it. Altho outranging it is really only feasible if you are in full retreat mode.

You're not supposed to be able to dodge Dragon Leap. But it's still happening. Dragon Leap is still pretty jacked up... just like most other "gap closer" abilities. "Too high, too low" and faulty mechanics. I can't count the times I've wasted a Dragon Leap and had those stupid wings on my feet.

Apherius

No

Make destro ult Undodgeable :P put a wall on the edges of the ultimate area , and make it so oncetime someone is on your destro ulti he can't escape

NBrookus

jaburns wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

T1y4hoon wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can dodge dragonleap, or at least the CC

You can't dodge it, but you can block it and outrange it. Altho outranging it is really only feasible if you are in full retreat mode.

You're not supposed to be able to dodge Dragon Leap. But it's still happening. Dragon Leap is still pretty jacked up... just like most other "gap closer" abilities. "Too high, too low" and faulty mechanics. I can't count the times I've wasted a Dragon Leap and had those stupid wings on my feet.

I haven't see a dodge of Leap yet. But I feel your pain.

GreenSoup2HoT

No

I personally think no ultimate should be dodgeable or purgeable.

Mojmir

No

If it was,it wouldn't be an ultimate.

Waffennacht

NBrookus wrote: »

jaburns wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

T1y4hoon wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you can dodge dragonleap, or at least the CC

You can't dodge it, but you can block it and outrange it. Altho outranging it is really only feasible if you are in full retreat mode.

You're not supposed to be able to dodge Dragon Leap. But it's still happening. Dragon Leap is still pretty jacked up... just like most other "gap closer" abilities. "Too high, too low" and faulty mechanics. I can't count the times I've wasted a Dragon Leap and had those stupid wings on my feet.

I haven't see a dodge of Leap yet. But I feel your pain.

That's awesome, it's like an evil Pegasus

ak_pvp

Yes

I think everything should have a counterplay.

For instance you shouldn't be able to stack 5 destro ults and decimate groups by gapclosing whilst in roots etc. You shouldn't have a cheap 70% snare undodgable 40m beam. There is too much of all this skilless ***.

Remember when you actually had to time your meteor or it could get reflected? Now look at the 2h ulti. 30k instarips. Its honestly like they are trying to remove counterplay from this game. Rooted? Spam streak/TP strike. NB revealed? Press cloak straight after. Force pulse? Yeah not reflectable anymore *** you. This is getting too ranty.

Sylosi

zacvanm wrote: »

If one can't be dodged (DK Leap) then you shouldn't be able to dodge any.

Why?

Vaoh

This should be decided per Ultimate imo.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Yes

The poll should have a 3rd option: it depends on the Ultimate.

Everything about the Ultimate (its cost, range, number of enemies affected, ect, ect) should be considered before one decides wether the Ult should be dodgable or not...

FloppyTouch

Dragon leap might not be dodge able but I can't tell you how many times they bug out on me and never goes off. I would say 3/10 times I use the ult the wings come out but no leap or damage...

paulsimonps

Depends on the ultimate and how it works. Non AoE ultimate's should be dodge-able.

STEVIL

hmmm... good question -should ulti's be more homogenized than they are now???

i come down on NO!

Thrymbauld

Yes

There are very few people I couldn't one-shot with the bow ult if there was no counterplay to it. Even if you survived the initial damage, the poison would kill you in anything short of full tank gear. You'd simply start taking hits and may as well sit down.

As much as I love melting someone with it, countering has to exist. It's a decent, but not spectacular ult with it. It'd be need to be nerfed into the ground without.

cpuScientist

No

Their official stance is AOE ultimates are undodgeable, as well as beam attacks (which they state force pulse is but that's Currently dodgeable, but not reflectable).

idk

Solariken wrote: »

Depends on the ultimate, they all are supposed to have appropriate and varied forms of counterplay. But as the above comment says Dawnbreaker is getting fixed and won't be dodgeable next patch.

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