[PC NA] AD Wins Vivec, Season 2 - Congratulations

Agrippa_Invisus

As others have requested --

Here's the congrats post for AD for Vivec, season 2.

Congratulations to AD. You wanted it more, very obviously, and the other two factions woefully underestimated you until it was too late. EP / DC did far too much navel gazing at Bleakers and Chalman and only realized what was up when they couldn't change anything about it (and then continued to pound each other for good measure).

You won, you earned your win, and my hat's off to you as your opponent. I'm glad to see AD pull one out. As an EP player, I can honestly say that it's good for others to win periodically as no faction could dominate for months on end, and we don't mind taking the loss for a faction who obviously worked so hard for the win.

Congratulations. Good fights, good luck, and have fun in season 3.

Agrippa_Invisus

As a follow up -- Congratulations to EP for pulling 2nd place out by the hair of their chin as I was informed we were able to do.

Yesterday was tough and frustrating, but it is good to see us salvage a little something out of it!

Publius_Scipio

It gets rough for the COVENANT when AD pushes northwest hard and the EP push west. Not enough DC groups to hold the lines and push. I definitely think AD love Roe-Nikel-Ash more than Alessia-Sej-Brk.

Sneaky sneaky little elves.

Wing

re post

you know AD is doing well when Iskra is being quiet in zone chat. XD

PC NA btw

also thanks to the pug sherpas I saw, props to anti-fusion and a few others that kept herding the pugs what seemed like 24/7

couple times DC and EP saw we had the lead and decided to ignore each other and purple up against us. even though its the right thing to do and the alliance war was kind of balanced with that idea in mind, it still makes it hard. but AD fought hard.

extra proud because AD is not known for anything and often talked down, DC has the guilds, EP the numbers, and AD the potatoes -_- glad we could rally together and give the other factions a smack in the mouth.

Publius_Scipio

Wing wrote: »

re post

you know AD is doing well when Iskra is being quiet in zone chat. XD

PC NA btw

also thanks to the pug sherpas I saw, props to anti-fusion and a few others that kept herding the pugs what seemed like 24/7

couple times DC and EP saw we had the lead and decided to ignore each other and purple up against us. even though its the right thing to do and the alliance war was kind of balanced with that idea in mind, it still makes it hard. but AD fought hard.

extra proud because AD is not known for anything and often talked down, DC has the guilds, EP the numbers, and AD the potatoes -_- glad we could rally together and give the other factions a smack in the mouth.

Iskra is your leader? I challenge him to a fight.

Wing

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

It gets rough for the COVENANT when AD pushes northwest hard and the EP push west. Not enough DC groups to hold the lines and push. I definitely think AD love Roe-Nikel-Ash more than Alessia-Sej-Brk.

Sneaky sneaky little elves.

nah I think EP would tell you AD firmly believes BRK is an AD home keep XD

DC just tends to avoid open fights so they loose ash all the time, DC raids tend to go brindle, black boot, bloodmayne. only the DC pug guilds seem to want to fight at ash or nik and thus get wiped :C DC just goes around the fight.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

Thank you for the congratulations. It was a tough, well fought campaign from all side. I was one of those AD players involved in the Roe-Nikel-Ash battles. Last night involved some epic battles around Nikel that lasted over 2 hours at a stretch against a well organized, tough DC opponent. Nikel must have changed hands a dozen times during that time. Best PvP I've seen in a long time.

PC NA Vivic campaign

Publius_Scipio

Wing wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

It gets rough for the COVENANT when AD pushes northwest hard and the EP push west. Not enough DC groups to hold the lines and push. I definitely think AD love Roe-Nikel-Ash more than Alessia-Sej-Brk.

Sneaky sneaky little elves.

nah I think EP would tell you AD firmly believes BRK is an AD home keep XD

DC just tends to avoid open fights so they loose ash all the time, DC raids tend to go brindle, black boot, bloodmayne. only the DC pug guilds seem to want to fight at ash or nik and thus get wiped :C DC just goes around the fight.

I challenge all the elf guilds to a fight. No DC guilds, no NPCs, just me.

NACtron

Considering almost no guilds could function properly due to crashes, group bugs, and a 2 hour que it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead. Though to be fair AD did well playing the map the whole campaign, they earned this win. I just wish that the servers let us keep a raid up so that we could have had a chance at changing the outcome.

Agrippa_Invisus

NACtron wrote: »

Considering almost no guilds could function properly due to crashes, group bugs, and a 2 hour que it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead. Though to be fair AD did well playing the map the whole campaign, they earned this win. I just wish that the servers let us keep a raid up so that we could have had a chance at changing the outcome.

At the same time, everyone had the same problems. Defense was easier than offense for a bit due to it though.

NACtron

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Considering almost no guilds could function properly due to crashes, group bugs, and a 2 hour que it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead. Though to be fair AD did well playing the map the whole campaign, they earned this win. I just wish that the servers let us keep a raid up so that we could have had a chance at changing the outcome.

At the same time, everyone had the same problems. Defense was easier than offense for a bit due to it though.

I think lack of guilds on all sides made the map and consequently the score more stagnant. No guilds to hold keeps and coordinate offensives. Just lots of well meaning but disorganized players. Who sadly do not have the ability to coordinate effectively enough to change the score.

Telel

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

As others have requested --

Here's the congrats post for AD for Vivec, season 2.

Congratulations to AD. You wanted it more, very obviously, and the other two factions woefully underestimated you until it was too late. EP / DC did far too much navel gazing at Bleakers and Chalman and only realized what was up when they couldn't change anything about it (and then continued to pound each other for good measure).

You won, you earned your win, and my hat's off to you as your opponent. I'm glad to see AD pull one out. As an EP player, I can honestly say that it's good for others to win periodically as no faction could dominate for months on end, and we don't mind taking the loss for a faction who obviously worked so hard for the win.

Congratulations. Good fights, good luck, and have fun in season 3.

This one is glad you enjoyed them pulling things out. Even if you did end up getting pounded by this one's entire pack more than a few times.

Telel will admit that for a while things got so hard that they weren't quite sure if we'd remain on top. Fortunately a combination of deft paws, helpful allies, and opponents who wilted in the face of all that howling led to a most satisfying climax for this ruckus.

Minno

Telel wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

As others have requested --

Here's the congrats post for AD for Vivec, season 2.

Congratulations to AD. You wanted it more, very obviously, and the other two factions woefully underestimated you until it was too late. EP / DC did far too much navel gazing at Bleakers and Chalman and only realized what was up when they couldn't change anything about it (and then continued to pound each other for good measure).

You won, you earned your win, and my hat's off to you as your opponent. I'm glad to see AD pull one out. As an EP player, I can honestly say that it's good for others to win periodically as no faction could dominate for months on end, and we don't mind taking the loss for a faction who obviously worked so hard for the win.

Congratulations. Good fights, good luck, and have fun in season 3.

This one is glad you enjoyed them pulling things out. Even if you did end up getting pounded by this one's entire pack more than a few times.

Telel will admit that for a while things got so hard that they weren't quite sure if we'd remain on top. Fortunately a combination of deft paws, helpful allies, and opponents who wilted in the face of all that howling led to a most satisfying climax for this ruckus.

Vivec AD zone chat was on fire last night. Only negative thing was to question Iskra's theorycraft advise lol.

Gederic

Minno wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

As others have requested --

Here's the congrats post for AD for Vivec, season 2.

Congratulations to AD. You wanted it more, very obviously, and the other two factions woefully underestimated you until it was too late. EP / DC did far too much navel gazing at Bleakers and Chalman and only realized what was up when they couldn't change anything about it (and then continued to pound each other for good measure).

You won, you earned your win, and my hat's off to you as your opponent. I'm glad to see AD pull one out. As an EP player, I can honestly say that it's good for others to win periodically as no faction could dominate for months on end, and we don't mind taking the loss for a faction who obviously worked so hard for the win.

Congratulations. Good fights, good luck, and have fun in season 3.

This one is glad you enjoyed them pulling things out. Even if you did end up getting pounded by this one's entire pack more than a few times.

Telel will admit that for a while things got so hard that they weren't quite sure if we'd remain on top. Fortunately a combination of deft paws, helpful allies, and opponents who wilted in the face of all that howling led to a most satisfying climax for this ruckus.

Vivec AD zone chat was on fire last night. Only negative thing was to question Iskra's theorycraft advise lol.

That bad huh? lol

Cydone

When both AD and EP are constantly fighting DC at the same time, it gets a bit rough. DC just doesn't have enough for the summer rush......considering both AD and EP have enough to put pressure on DC on both fronts, while fighting smaller fights against each other in the east and south.

Kilandros

Congrats AD!

DisgracefulMind

Cydone wrote: »

When both AD and EP are constantly fighting DC at the same time, it gets a bit rough. DC just doesn't have enough for the summer rush......considering both AD and EP have enough to put pressure on DC on both fronts, while fighting smaller fights against each other in the east and south.

hahahahaha. thanks for the funny post.

Also, congrats AD, was honestly surprised at how much you all pulled ahead, good job ^.^

Minnesinger

Nailed it. Even though there were familiar faces this win was thanks to all AD as a faction. Hope we can keep this spirit and make war fairly but decisively.

Agrippa_Invisus

Cydone wrote: »

When both AD and EP are constantly fighting DC at the same time, it gets a bit rough. DC just doesn't have enough for the summer rush......considering both AD and EP have enough to put pressure on DC on both fronts, while fighting smaller fights against each other in the east and south.

Both EP and DC got hit repeatedly by an obviously bored AD faction. Once it was clear that EP and DC were fighting for second (and only for second), then the Bleakers corridor became an abattoir and AD was able to repeatedly snap up Ash, Drake, and BRK with little resistance... and when there was resistance, it was pretty much a sound shattering faction stack that rolled said resistance over (we saw it several times at BRK over the course of the day).

Again, this was due to no pressure from both sides being put on them. One side or the other would try to get a home keep or two back and then had to pull back due to other non-1st faction hitting them with a full broadside.

Chalman, especially, spent the day as a DC mass grave, and several times it got potatoed so hard that DC allowed Glademist or some other important keep to fall behind them to continue the offensive. Admittedly EP did the same as well at one point and Ghartok grew legs because of it. Luckily we recovered from that.

I feel (and this is my opinion) that the campaign was still winnable for EP and DC around noon central time, but that was the point where it seemed one faction decided to forgo first and slam the other incessantly for hours on end as as the former tried in vain to push south onto AD and push them back to keep the final score tighter for all three factions.

It's why it's with no small amount of satisfaction that I can be proud of our second, instead of third, place finish.

Wing

I was impressed with the meager 100s of points spread in score for weeks. good fighting all around

Joy_Division

Sneaky sneaky AD. Lie in the woods in last place convincing the other two factions that the dominion is irrelevant and then pouncing at the end.

Agrippa_Invisus

Joy_Division wrote: »

Sneaky sneaky AD. Lie in the woods in last place convincing the other two factions that the dominion is irrelevant and then pouncing at the end.

It's not a bad strategy. Lay still, seem insignificant, and when your opponents are least expecting -- club them upside the head.

heystreethawk

Well, no. AD was still under fire, consistently and from both directions, throughout the final stretch. Which was, of course, what each of the other factions should have been doing, given that we were in first. When I made it through the queue last night, we had two keeps to our name. And right through when I gave up on trying to stay in Cyrodiil, blue kept pressure on Roe and Brindle, EP had Alessia for much of the night, and DC even made a play at denying our recapture of Alessia. No one gave up, or fully committed to fighting for second place.

It was hard fought from all sides, right up to the end, and absolutely DC and EP should feel as proud of their efforts as we should of ours. Great campaign, and here's to another one.

WreckfulAbandon

As long as DC loses we're happy.

Agrippa_Invisus

heystreethawk wrote: »

Well, no. AD was still under fire, consistently and from both directions, throughout the final stretch. Which was, of course, what each of the other factions should have been doing, given that we were in first. When I made it through the queue last night, we had two keeps to our name. And right through when I gave up on trying to stay in Cyrodiil, blue kept pressure on Roe and Brindle, EP had Alessia for much of the night, and DC even made a play at denying our recapture of Alessia. No one gave up, or fully committed to fighting for second place.

It was hard fought from all sides, right up to the end, and absolutely DC and EP should feel as proud of their efforts as we should of ours. Great campaign, and here's to another one.

At one point, EP was actively ignoring anything south of Arrius. We even plowed all the way to Warden and helped open DC's gates just to crater their points earnings while not holding BRK or Drake or Sejanus (which is normally verboten - own home keeps, then push is the best and most common strategy).

There's a reason AD was able to stomp all over BRK and Drake repeatedly throughout the night -- it's because EP/DC were literally flinging multi-raid sized blobs at each other all night, and while we might peel a raid south for a bit to grab a home keep, it wouldn't stay and the gains were swiftly lost. I wasn't exaggerating when I called Chalman a 'DC mass grave'.

While yes, there was some mild heat on AD from time to time, it was nothing to what EP and DC were doing to each other in the Bleaker's corridor. The repeated back caps of KC, the constant siege attempts at Chalman, Dragon flipping umpteen different times. And each time one faction would start a serious push against AD, they got kneecapped by the other. DC pushed Roe at one point and EP hit Aleswell hard and DC loses both Roe and Ash to AD getting Aleswell back. EP gets BRK back? Chalman gets slammed and we lose BRK again. The most heat I saw on AD, admittedly came around 7-9pm central when they had a gate open and Mnem got pulled. EP/DC couldn't lay off each other though and gave up any chance of displacing AD from the lead.

If I'd had my druthers, we'd have left the Bleakers corridor empty and gated AD starting in the early afternoon with DC in BB and EP in BM and gone back to the normal 3 way when the score was a virtual tie. Unfortunately, no one consulted me from the other faction. Around 11pm central I was finally convinced that hitting DC exclusively was the only choice as the mathematical probability of a comeback was incredibly narrow.

Quick Caveat - This mostly refers to my in Cyrodiil time of 7pm Central to 3am.

And, to state, this isn't to take away from what AD accomplished, just my own strategic commentary as I like to be introspective and analytical about these things. They came back from behind, worked the map well, and won. EP and DC did themselves no favors either, as their obvious loathing for the other faction cost both factions any chance of ever overcoming AD. It was still very close and until the last few hours any faction could have won.

Congrats to AD, you did earn it.

Delphinia

NACtron wrote: »

Considering almost no guilds could function properly due to crashes, group bugs, and a 2 hour que it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead. Though to be fair AD did well playing the map the whole campaign, they earned this win. I just wish that the servers let us keep a raid up so that we could have had a chance at changing the outcome.

Thank you.

You're right, AD earned it. And as you said regarding the mess that was last night... "almost no guilds could function properly" ..."it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead."
Please keep in mind, AD was affected just as much with the crashing, group bugs, and long queues..

There is no denying everyone fought hard (on all factions), but somehow AD rallied after about a six month losing streak.
Their hard work was noticed well before last night's fiasco of "technical difficulties"..
I also saw quite a few players who were AD move to the other two factions for a while.. and then, for whatever reason, some returned. I want to thank those players who helped AD (regardless if they came back or stuck it out the entire time). Everyone who was here during our low time, and those who came back, worked very hard.

At any rate, while many say AD "blobs", "zergs", etc.. it exists on all sides.
Although, AD has always had strength in players and leaders, we have unfortunately, also lost many to other factions.
Yet, during this campaign, this faction, as I said, rallied together and had much better communication and organization (despite all of the belittling and belligerent comments from a select few players). Our losses may have also helped forge some new leaders who were always there, just waiting to have their opportunity.
I won't mention anyone or any guilds by name, because each individual player had a hand in this long overdue success and I truly hope those players had fun and either made new friends over here, or reconnected with old ones.

Agrippa_Invisus

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Rohamad_Ali

Congratulations to everyone that fought on Vivec . It was anyone's guess who would take the lead most of month . Each faction fought hard every night and day . No one made it easy on anyone . A big thanks to all the guilds , solo players and guests in AD for winning the campaign . Everyone helped in some way and it does feel good to win . Awesome job AD .

Celas_Dranacea

I didn't play almost at all this campaign - I only logged in every once in awhile - Great job to the champions of AD - you know who you are - you fought very hard for this win with group leads working around the clock and organizing our guilds to fight for the map.

The AD guilds and leaders pulled together and kept up the fight over the weeks despite 6 months without a win and doubts in the minds of many that we had the strength to do it. My faith in AD has never waivered. Lord Hircine was at our backs, spurring us on to victory. At the end, we were a unified pack of wolves, cornering our prey. Seeing us hold that lead for 3 days was awesome.

Good job to EP and DC as well - good campaign all around.

Agrippa_Invisus

Delphinia wrote: »

NACtron wrote: »

Considering almost no guilds could function properly due to crashes, group bugs, and a 2 hour que it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead. Though to be fair AD did well playing the map the whole campaign, they earned this win. I just wish that the servers let us keep a raid up so that we could have had a chance at changing the outcome.

There is no denying everyone fought hard (on all factions), but somehow AD rallied after about a six month losing streak.

This part is key and very important. It's a good thing for this game that AD wins the primary NA campaign, especially after the streak they had. Just as it was important that EP won in the months before.

It's important that no one faction dominate forever, month and month. There needs to be a chance for everyone to win. It keeps the game fresh, keeps morale up, and gives everyone a reason to give their best effort month in and month out.

I really am happy AD won. I want them to be a dangerous, effective faction just like EP and DC are. I don't want EP and DC to be able to ignore them and I want them to fear EP and DC as well. A three way faction fight thrives on the competitiveness of the factions participating in it.

I'm glad you guys won, truly. Good job, and good work.

Rohamad_Ali

NACtron wrote: »

Considering almost no guilds could function properly due to crashes, group bugs, and a 2 hour que it's frustrating that AD managed to keep the lead. Though to be fair AD did well playing the map the whole campaign, they earned this win. I just wish that the servers let us keep a raid up so that we could have had a chance at changing the outcome.

@NACtron

I don't know anybody that wanted the campaign to end the way it did with that event and all the problems it created . Our guild was part stuck in groups during the day with half ungrouped and couldn't join groups , trying to relay directions all over the map . With 24hrs to go and only a 200 point lead this lead to much hair loss and wrinkles . I think we all would of been happy if the event started later . We were all too invested to just quit and that made crashing dozens of times and waiting hours in queue even more frustrating while hoping who ever was lucky enough to stay on could hold their own . Brutal ending and most certainly leaves a bad after taste for all of us . A normal bug infested laggy ending was preferred .