[PC NA] AD Wins Vivec, Season 2 - Congratulations

Agrippa_Invisus

Telel wrote: »

Nivellan wrote: »

Tons of tactical skill involved in winning campaigns.

Well it did indeed take a lot of tactics to come back from the kind of zerging displayed by Team purple in the pictures you shared.

Thank you for showing just how hard the Dumbminion had to fight against the two faction hordes arrayed against humble khajiit.

=^.^=

Those screenshots were from today, actually.

Nivellan

Vilestride wrote: »

Nivellan wrote: »

Tons of tactical skill involved in winning campaigns.

yeah I don't get the relevance of this either? Enlighten us?

Have you played in a BG before?

When you play domination mode does the team that wins the most fights win, or the team that caps the most flags?

It doesn't matter how well you play in a 3way fight. Your success is contingent on how poorly one or both of the other teams play.

It's the second day of the campaign and AD has no shot as long as DC is only fighting for second place giving EP the win. It's the same as in a CTF match where the worst team decides the match by potatoing into a single other team allowing the third to cruise to an uncontested victory.

The only strategy AD employed on the final day was stay in contention until we had both Ash and BRK. Then all you do is faction stack whichever side is pushing so badly that they don't want to come back and a perpetual fight over bleakers occurs. Every faction does it, AD just happens to do it better on final campaign days. No amount of resource takes or capping back keeps is going to make anyone but your group push to a keep they know has an entire faction in it.

BraidasNM

@Nivellan hey hey only the most tactically intelligent and skillful players can earn first place on a cyrodiil scoreboard. you take your logic and get out

IxSTALKERxI

AD is lucky to have players who stay and fight and keep trying to gain ground no matter how hard / unenjoyable the fights for us become. If anything when the going gets tough it helps us unite as a faction more.

Vilestride

Nivellan wrote: »

Vilestride wrote: »

Nivellan wrote: »

Tons of tactical skill involved in winning campaigns.

yeah I don't get the relevance of this either? Enlighten us?

Have you played in a BG before?

When you play domination mode does the team that wins the most fights win, or the team that caps the most flags?

It doesn't matter how well you play in a 3way fight. Your success is contingent on how poorly one or both of the other teams play.

It's the second day of the campaign and AD has no shot as long as DC is only fighting for second place giving EP the win. It's the same as in a CTF match where the worst team decides the match by potatoing into a single other team allowing the third to cruise to an uncontested victory.

The only strategy AD employed on the final day was stay in contention until we had both Ash and BRK. Then all you do is faction stack whichever side is pushing so badly that they don't want to come back and a perpetual fight over bleakers occurs. Every faction does it, AD just happens to do it better on final campaign days. No amount of resource takes or capping back keeps is going to make anyone but your group push to a keep they know has an entire faction in it.

Sure, but my point is its day 2 of the campaign, the map is going to look like this 50 times over for each faction before it ends. And no, I actually have literally never played a BG's. Don't care for them. If I want that kind of smaller fast paced gameplay I will go play counter-strike, its a better game for it.

Telel

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Nivellan wrote: »

Tons of tactical skill involved in winning campaigns.

Well it did indeed take a lot of tactics to come back from the kind of zerging displayed by Team purple in the pictures you shared.

Thank you for showing just how hard the Dumbminion had to fight against the two faction hordes arrayed against humble khajiit.

=^.^=

Those screenshots were from today, actually.

Oh. They looked a lot like the same ones Telel has been taking on and off again for a couple of months now. Especially Thursdays.

Sadly the pups requested that Khajiit move to Shor for the duration of the event so a humble one can do little about it now.

biminirwb17_ESO

Most of you have missed why AD did so well in the final hours, the "event mayhem" had caused the group function to fail. So AD was organising in zone chat.

This was organised down to how many points we could lose each hour and still win, eventually it became clear that we could not lose without a catastrophic event.

It was discussed if we should decide who came last or to try and get Emp, we decided on the latter.

pcar944

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Cydone wrote: »

When both AD and EP are constantly fighting DC at the same time, it gets a bit rough. DC just doesn't have enough for the summer rush......considering both AD and EP have enough to put pressure on DC on both fronts, while fighting smaller fights against each other in the east and south.

Both EP and DC got hit repeatedly by an obviously bored AD faction. Once it was clear that EP and DC were fighting for second (and only for second), then the Bleakers corridor became an abattoir and AD was able to repeatedly snap up Ash, Drake, and BRK with little resistance... and when there was resistance, it was pretty much a sound shattering faction stack that rolled said resistance over (we saw it several times at BRK over the course of the day).

Again, this was due to no pressure from both sides being put on them. One side or the other would try to get a home keep or two back and then had to pull back due to other non-1st faction hitting them with a full broadside.

Chalman, especially, spent the day as a DC mass grave, and several times it got potatoed so hard that DC allowed Glademist or some other important keep to fall behind them to continue the offensive. Admittedly EP did the same as well at one point and Ghartok grew legs because of it. Luckily we recovered from that.

I feel (and this is my opinion) that the campaign was still winnable for EP and DC around noon central time, but that was the point where it seemed one faction decided to forgo first and slam the other incessantly for hours on end as as the former tried in vain to push south onto AD and push them back to keep the final score tighter for all three factions.

It's why it's with no small amount of satisfaction that I can be proud of our second, instead of third, place finish.

I call DC out on that constantly, seems like EP and DC go after the other only after AD decides who's getting the D during this particular eval

that's bad PVP

but AP is AP so ...

Herbatio

luv the excuses AD , i sit here and wonder how people actually enjoy playing on a faction that basically fights on 1 front. But guess that makes it easy for y'all. In the end, more AP for DC smile:

Telel

Herbatio wrote: »

luv the excuses AD , i sit here and wonder how people actually enjoy playing on a faction that basically fights on 1 front. But guess that makes it easy for y'all. In the end, more AP for DC smile:

This one must agree with part of your assessement.

When team purple only fights on one front it indeed makes it easier for more elfish sorts to feel good about themselves. And of course Telel has yet to figure out why people enjoy such things. Especially when they could just go play with their friends on one faction if they wanted to cooperate so closely together.

This one even found a perfect example while fighting on Shor this weekend, and made a video clip of it.

Agrippa_Invisus

Telel wrote: »

Herbatio wrote: »

luv the excuses AD , i sit here and wonder how people actually enjoy playing on a faction that basically fights on 1 front. But guess that makes it easy for y'all. In the end, more AP for DC smile:

This one must agree with part of your assessement.

When team purple only fights on one front it indeed makes it easier for more elfish sorts to feel good about themselves. And of course Telel has yet to figure out why people enjoy such things. Especially when they could just go play with their friends on one faction if they wanted to cooperate so closely together.

This one even found a perfect example while fighting on Shor this weekend, and made a video clip of it.

Well, when one has Emp every day and night caps every day and has a thoousand plus point lead like AD on Shor, expect to be double teamed viciously, brutally, and regularly.

I doubt there'll be much sympathy to be found for any AD that is unhappy about getting pounded back to their gates.

Telel

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Herbatio wrote: »

luv the excuses AD , i sit here and wonder how people actually enjoy playing on a faction that basically fights on 1 front. But guess that makes it easy for y'all. In the end, more AP for DC smile:

This one must agree with part of your assessement.

When team purple only fights on one front it indeed makes it easier for more elfish sorts to feel good about themselves. And of course Telel has yet to figure out why people enjoy such things. Especially when they could just go play with their friends on one faction if they wanted to cooperate so closely together.

This one even found a perfect example while fighting on Shor this weekend, and made a video clip of it.

Well, when one has Emp every day and night caps every day and has a thoousand plus point lead like AD on Shor, expect to be double teamed viciously, brutally, and regularly.

I doubt there'll be much sympathy to be found for any AD that is unhappy about getting pounded back to their gates.

This one asks for no sympathy. Just understanding that if one needs to double team, and out number, a group that has one level 34 healer, a CP 178 & 325 DPS plus the most terrible NB in the game....

You've given up bragging rights. Not to mention claims that it's being done because 'zergbads'

Also the ones who do such things are elves, and should feel elfish.

The bit in question is up in this one's twitch highligts by the way. Makes for an interesting bit of cinema. ^_^

Also if nightcapperas and zerglings 'deserve' to have lame tactics used on them.....

TrueflameJanuary...

Trueflame February...

March pay special attention to the last two....

Etc, etc, etc..now onto May....

That was one of this one's faves when bloops whine about 'the zerg faction'. =^.^=

Onto Vivec...

Oh and just to drive be even more humble in this one's question. If this is a faction's usual response to a five man PUG taking a resource....

Then you would say they deserve exactly what you claimed they deserve right?

HorrorShow

Christ the cat people talk is annoying. Part of the reason I left AD to go DC. Also got sick of being on team orange on Vivec campaign. Seriously AD sucks.

Agrippa_Invisus

Telel wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Telel wrote: »

Herbatio wrote: »

luv the excuses AD , i sit here and wonder how people actually enjoy playing on a faction that basically fights on 1 front. But guess that makes it easy for y'all. In the end, more AP for DC smile:

This one must agree with part of your assessement.

When team purple only fights on one front it indeed makes it easier for more elfish sorts to feel good about themselves. And of course Telel has yet to figure out why people enjoy such things. Especially when they could just go play with their friends on one faction if they wanted to cooperate so closely together.

This one even found a perfect example while fighting on Shor this weekend, and made a video clip of it.

Well, when one has Emp every day and night caps every day and has a thoousand plus point lead like AD on Shor, expect to be double teamed viciously, brutally, and regularly.

I doubt there'll be much sympathy to be found for any AD that is unhappy about getting pounded back to their gates.

This one asks for no sympathy. Just understanding that if one needs to double team, and out number, a group that has one level 34 healer, a CP 178 & 325 DPS plus the most terrible NB in the game....

You've given up bragging rights. Not to mention claims that it's being done because 'zergbads'

Also the ones who do such things are elves, and should feel elfish.

The bit in question is up in this one's twitch highligts by the way. Makes for an interesting bit of cinema. ^_^

Also if nightcapperas and zerglings 'deserve' to have lame tactics used on them.....

TrueflameJanuary...

Trueflame February...

March pay special attention to the last two....

Etc, etc, etc..now onto May....

That was one of this one's faves when bloops whine about 'the zerg faction'. =^.^=

Onto Vivec...

Oh and just to drive be even more humble in this one's question. If this is a faction's usual response to a five man PUG taking a resource....

Then you would say they deserve exactly what you claimed they deserve right?

Any team that night caps and holds emp on a daily basis deserves to be gated during prime time day in and day out until they stop.

No qualifiers, no exceptions.

It's not meant to spite any particular squad or raid, just to correct the scoreboard imbalance and lend a measure of vengeance to those who have to wake up and start grinding out from their gates on a regular basis.

Because a bunch of zergs happened to you on other campaigns is no factor in why or how thoroughly this happens.

Telel

@Agrippa_Invisus You do realize khajiit was mostly just looking for an excuse to use all those screenshots yes? =^.^=

@HorrorShow This one thinks they know the real reason you ran off to hide with team purple. Aside from the love of squeaky noses, white face paint, and cars that hold way to many people.

more friends = more fun right?

EDIT: BTW that screenshot there was taken 3 weeks ago during the campaign cycle this topic is about. The one AD won.