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Since health regen is getting nerfed do Nords need a buff?
Strider_Roshin
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Right now the three top tank races are Imperials (for more max stats), Argonians (Healing received, and resource management), and Nords (Health regen tanks). However since health regen is getting nerfed, and therefore health regen tanks aren't going to be nearly as viable as they once were; should Nords receive a buff to keep them competitive?
My rational:
Nords aren't a DPS race, they're not a healing race, they're a tanking race. Unlike the other two races mentioned tanking is the only role they're considered for. Making them less viable for this particular role is very grim for this race.
The buffs can be along the lines of better resource management (maybe a similar passive to the Constitution passive?), mitigation (buffing Rugged), or damage (increased damage when using a 2H?)
Edited by Strider_Roshin on July 14, 2017 7:18PM My rational:
Nords aren't a DPS race, they're not a healing race, they're a tanking race. Unlike the other two races mentioned tanking is the only role they're considered for. Making them less viable for this particular role is very grim for this race.
The buffs can be along the lines of better resource management (maybe a similar passive to the Constitution passive?), mitigation (buffing Rugged), or damage (increased damage when using a 2H?)
Since health regen is getting nerfed do Nords need a buff? 64 votes
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think Nords should have their old passive restored, you know the one where they took 5% more damage rather than reducing it.
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Eejit1331✭✭✭Edited by Eejit1331 on July 14, 2017 7:26PM0
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bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yesice staves equipped on a nord should count as 2 set pieces - because reasons that make about as much sense as adding a taunt to a heavy attack on an ice staff1 -
Militan1404✭✭✭YesThey are OP and should have their rugged passive reduced.
Lol no they are not, not in pve, not in pvp.
If any of the classes deserves a buff its the nords, there is nothing u can do better with a nord, becouse theres always a class that could do that job better, they are medicore at best5 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesMilitan1404 wrote: »They are OP and should have their rugged passive reduced.
Lol no they are not, not in pve, not in pvp.
If any of the classes deserves a buff its the nords, there is nothing u can do better with a nord, becouse theres always a class that could do that job better, they are medicore at best
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DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Eh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).3 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesId be a nord if they were not so tall. So i settled for Imperial since i wanted a health passive. Im actually nord though.PS4 NA DC0 -
paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Eh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).
6% Damage reduction is barely noticeable at all on a proper tank cause of all the diminishing returns damage mitigation has.
Also OP, what is this about Health Recovery being nerfed? In PvP, yes, cause of Defile, but you said this was in PvE Scenario. Nothing is changing Health Recovery.8 -
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✭✭✭✭paulsimonps wrote: »Eh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).
6% Damage reduction is barely noticeable at all on a proper tank cause of all the diminishing returns damage mitigation has.
Also OP, what is this about Health Recovery being nerfed? In PvP, yes, cause of Defile, but you said this was in PvE Scenario. Nothing is changing Health Recovery.
On a tank yes, but as a DD I'd say Nord is competitive with Imperial for example (which is only slightly worse than khajiit).
This is a recent development in PvE balance, as these days even Imperial stam builds have to get some health from gear/attributes to survive certain mechanics.Edited by DDuke on July 14, 2017 7:54PM0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesEh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).
Oh it's pretty solid in PvP. But not a huge deal in PvE (it does help with OHKOs though)0 -
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✭✭✭YesGreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Id be a nord if they were not so tall. So i settled for Imperial since i wanted a health passive. Im actually nord though.
I actually like the fact that they're big and brawny. I usually like playing as characters that resemble myself IRL, and I'm 6'5" and 250 lbs. People usually think I'm security when I go to bars lol0 -
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✭✭✭Yespaulsimonps wrote: »Eh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).
6% Damage reduction is barely noticeable at all on a proper tank cause of all the diminishing returns damage mitigation has.
Also OP, what is this about Health Recovery being nerfed? In PvP, yes, cause of Defile, but you said this was in PvE Scenario. Nothing is changing Health Recovery.
Lol I'm guessing you haven't done HoF yet.0 -
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✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »Eh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).
6% Damage reduction is barely noticeable at all on a proper tank cause of all the diminishing returns damage mitigation has.
Also OP, what is this about Health Recovery being nerfed? In PvP, yes, cause of Defile, but you said this was in PvE Scenario. Nothing is changing Health Recovery.
Lol I'm guessing you haven't done HoF yet.
I have done HoF, not sure what you are referring to. Not seen any disease damage in there as far as I know.0 -
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✭✭✭Yespaulsimonps wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »Eh, I think Nords are actually highly underrated currently.
6% Damage Reduction is huge, and not just good for tanks only - in PvE it allows you to focus less on health & put more points in stamina and in PvP it's like having 2 extra impen traits that affect all dmg (not just crits).
6% Damage reduction is barely noticeable at all on a proper tank cause of all the diminishing returns damage mitigation has.
Also OP, what is this about Health Recovery being nerfed? In PvP, yes, cause of Defile, but you said this was in PvE Scenario. Nothing is changing Health Recovery.
Lol I'm guessing you haven't done HoF yet.
I have done HoF, not sure what you are referring to. Not seen any disease damage in there as far as I know.
As a tank you're constantly getting defiled in HoF. Which is why having a high health recovery tank is so useful. Now it makes no difference.0 -
Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesNords have been a mechanically weak race before the health recovery nerf. Rugged is good on paper, but is subject to diminishing returns - the more you try to capitalize on it the worse it becomes (somehow, the damage dealing races do not suffer this).
Healers and DPS don't want this race, which pigeonholes it to the least played role, and even tanks do not see it as the best, just one option among others.
I'm still waiting for that Cold oriented trial or dungeon so that the racial passive can shine...Edited by Joy_Division on July 14, 2017 11:29PM5 -
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✭✭NoGive nords a buff to alcoholic drinksXbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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sneakymitchell✭✭✭✭YesShould share with orc passive with the weapon damage. And nords still keep rugged.Edited by sneakymitchell on July 23, 2017 7:26PMNA-Xbox one- Ebonheart Pact- Nord Tank DK
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✭✭✭Does the status effect from the disease enchant stack with defile debuffs?
Status effect from Disease is Minor Defile.2 -
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✭✭✭✭I think they should keep the damage reduction passive but change the way it applies and make it stack with minor/major protection and mitigate incoming damage directly.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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✭✭✭I think they should keep the damage reduction passive but change the way it applies and make it stack with minor/major protection and mitigate incoming damage directly.
But... it already does that.1 -
Militan1404✭✭✭YesStrider_Roshin wrote: »Militan1404 wrote: »They are OP and should have their rugged passive reduced.
Lol no they are not, not in pve, not in pvp.
If any of the classes deserves a buff its the nords, there is nothing u can do better with a nord, becouse theres always a class that could do that job better, they are medicore at best
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BattleAxe✭✭✭✭✭YesProposed change to nords:
-increase the rugged passive slightly something like 2-3% more
-remove the health recovery and buff the amount of stam bonus
-remove health recovery and give something like the constitution HA passive
-move frost resist to flavor passive and instead give some passive tht gives both duration and increase amount gained from drinks2
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