Deathmatch

Tyrion87

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Since July 10, we started to see a small difference with the number of Deathmatch mode Battlegrounds being offered compared to the other two. While the difference is statistically within reason, we are monitoring and will keep you updated.

With all due respect but since the last patch from the previous week I've been playing more than 50 BGs and got only 1 Deathmatch. During this week I've got none. And you call it a difference being statistically within reason?! Change your approach please... You wonder why people don't want to test the new mode/map on the PTS? They have bad experiences with it. That's why.

I'm on EU/PC. If it even matters to you...

Nullmagic

Also, your CTF mechanics are not good ZOS. Might want to reconsider how those BGs play.

ChardeeMacD

I'm glad they are at least finally responding to this post. I'm so burnt out on CTF and land grab, that I am getting really bored of bg's. As if there wasn't already a small selection of games to play, the lack of deathmatch is sad.

Fecius

To make a long story short.

For last 2 weeks I've played DM mode only 1 time.

2 times I got smth like this!

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOAcnW6AXNE

Enodoc

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Why not let customer decide which mode? Enough of Grab bag, you all should know that everybody wants to play deathmatch the most. Is there even a set time or planned update to allow the consumer to choose which game mode? ZOS_GinaBruno , ZOS_JessicaFolsom , ZOS_GaryA , ZOS_TristanK , ZOS_AntonioP

Back when battlegrounds were announced, they said they may do this in the future, but didn't want to split the queue so much to start with when there is only one game mode per type, as it means a match for those who are in the least-favoured queue type would be much less likely to happen, and they would almost never get a game (current queue issues notwithstanding).

MurderMostFoul

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/360715/respond-to-this-poll-only-if-you-are-not-getting-deathmatch-games-in-bgs

Enter your platform in this poll. Maybe it will help the devs narrow down the issue.

Vanzen

What Jessica Folsom's post proves is that DEVS just dont play their game. PERIOD !

Otherwise she wouldnt have come out with this monthly survey of numbers of death matchs compared to others.

Any devs playing would have noticed within an hour that deatmatchs dont happen at all or almost ...

Gravord

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

Every time so far I have gotten deathmatch it has been broken. During US prime time it would start the group forming and put us in the instance, but 1 or 2 teams would always be short players. It would not start the game until we were all full, BUT it never filled it up. 20min+ I waited and it was just missing one person, I call BS that there wasn't 1 solo queuer around during 9pm EST to fill that spot. Then people started leaving and the game would fill those spots back up but never the one last person needed to start the game. Every death match I have gotten so far within the last 3 weeks have been like that, I had to leave and get penalty every time. Making me have a total of 40min+ of doing absolutely NOTHING but waiting. Do you guys count those failed death matches into it when you see if there have been deathmatches run?

We see more people quitting out of Deathmatch than other modes, so the "completed" numbers are lower than the "offered" numbers. We're focusing on the "offered" numbers for the sake of our monitoring.

Give us option to choose game mode when we queue... so nabsies can go run their relics while serious pvpers can pvp.

Thogard

Here's an example from yesterday of me getting stuck in death match and being forced to take the deserter penalty. Super exciting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFueLizSbVI

Falhael

Beardimus wrote: »

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Also - unsure why comparing Leaderboard scores between two different game types makes any relevance to volumes of people playing? The scoring system is different, so how does comparing scores relate to volumes of DM's played? (apologies if i'm just being dumb)

It just shows that few deathmatches get completed. Deathmatch is the game mode that makes it easiest to get 4k+ leaderboard points each run. And before deathmatches disappeared (PC EU here) the top scores were by far the highest in deathmatch leaderboards. Now those are by far the lowest.

damarky

any update on this?
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

kwinter

Still no death match today. ZOS needs to get this fix, of course they first need to admit there is a issue on the PC servers which they haven't done

Mojomonkeyman

So, I had another day with 10+ BGs yesterday - not a single deathmatch, like every day since the Queue-Fix patch on PC EU.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert

After I purchased Morrowind almost 3 months ago I have yet to see a single day where BGs were actually working as intended or playable at all. The least any customer can expect from you is to recognize this and show full commitment to make BGs work as flawless as they can ever run now.

Instead, you have shown nothing but disrespect for the loyalty and money that has been brought to you. The initial attitude in regards to the Queues and now here, displayed by ZOS staff, is simply not professional. Not only that you let us bugtest your game and still deliver a deeply flawed product, now you also ignore the newly introduced issues (by you) and pretend everything is fine - when a single BG session of one hour on PC would be enough to clearly show people in this thread are 100% correct blaming bugged game mode rotation for ruining their fun for weeks now (again).

This is so disappointing and infuriating at the same time.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Wanted to give you all a quick update on this. In drilling down into the numbers further, we are seeing fewer Deathmatch mode games being spun up on PC (both NA and EU) since the July 10 incremental patch. The console servers are unaffected. We're still investigating the cause and hope to have an update for you early next week.

Mojomonkeyman

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Wanted to give you all a quick update on this. In drilling down into the numbers further, we are seeing fewer Deathmatch mode games being spun up on PC (both NA and EU) since the July 10 incremental patch. The console servers are unaffected. We're still investigating the cause and hope to have an update for you early next week.

So, after all this queue disaster for 10 weeks, after belittleing this new issue for another 2 weeks before starting to investigate - you can't even man up enough to apologize and make this priority number one with a hotfix? I mean, it's just 3 months since your customers paid for this key feature of the Morrowind "expansion" - and it is still not working! All the while you are hyping up new game modes, yay.

"an update next week" .... wow, just wow.

misfitmanic

Completed all the BG dailies today, not a single Deathmatch.
Completed all the BG dailies yesterday, only a single Deathmatch that would not start after 5+ min waiting on starting platform. Got hit with 20 min deserter penalty for leaving, at which point I simply logged out.

gabriebe

Done about 20 BGs yesterday and today, got a single deathmatch out of it.

'statistically within reason'

Maybe you guys should pay an employee to play the game...

Miss_Morphine

Fix in this patch?
Here's to hoping they just didn't put it into patch notes.

Event is going on and all...

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

ChardeeMacD

Miss_Morphine wrote: »

Fix in this patch?
Here's to hoping they just didn't put it into patch notes.

Event is going on and all...

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I really hope so, gah bless!

Jerro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUIsFx5UIqo

Mojomonkeyman

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Wanted to give you all a quick update on this. In drilling down into the numbers further, we are seeing fewer Deathmatch mode games being spun up on PC (both NA and EU) since the July 10 incremental patch. The console servers are unaffected. We're still investigating the cause and hope to have an update for you early next week.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Hey there,
waiting here patiently with you guys for 11 weeks to finally make the BGs work I paid 30 bucks for somewhere in the past. Care to share an update with your loyal customers? Maybe even an ETA on when your last expansion's key feature will be fully playable?
Thanks for your hard work and setting the right priorities - I mean, it's just 3 months....
Regards

Gravord

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Wanted to give you all a quick update on this. In drilling down into the numbers further, we are seeing fewer Deathmatch mode games being spun up on PC (both NA and EU) since the July 10 incremental patch. The console servers are unaffected. We're still investigating the cause and hope to have an update for you early next week.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Hey there,
waiting here patiently with you guys for 11 weeks to finally make the BGs work I paid 30 bucks for somewhere in the past. Care to share an update with your loyal customers? Maybe even an ETA on when your last expansion's key feature will be fully playable?
Thanks for your hard work and setting the right priorities - I mean, it's just 3 months....
Regards

You ask for too much, working bg are not even top 100 priorities there. My topic about same issue wasnt even dignified with an answers after tagging devs and commuinty managers alike for 10 days.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/359696/battlegrounds-game-modes-are-horribly-designed-and-need-changes/p1

paulsimonps

Gravord wrote: »

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Wanted to give you all a quick update on this. In drilling down into the numbers further, we are seeing fewer Deathmatch mode games being spun up on PC (both NA and EU) since the July 10 incremental patch. The console servers are unaffected. We're still investigating the cause and hope to have an update for you early next week.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
Hey there,
waiting here patiently with you guys for 11 weeks to finally make the BGs work I paid 30 bucks for somewhere in the past. Care to share an update with your loyal customers? Maybe even an ETA on when your last expansion's key feature will be fully playable?
Thanks for your hard work and setting the right priorities - I mean, it's just 3 months....
Regards

You ask for too much, working bg are not even top 100 priorities there. My topic about same issue wasnt even dignified with an answers after tagging devs and commuinty managers alike for 10 days.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/359696/battlegrounds-game-modes-are-horribly-designed-and-need-changes/p1

99% of posts that are tagged with devs never get a response. And technically those two things are working as intended.

MilwaukeeScott

Just finished a week of BG on PS4 NA.

It seems DM showed up more than the CTF or DOM.

Thogard

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Wanted to give you all a quick update on this. In drilling down into the numbers further, we are seeing fewer Deathmatch mode games being spun up on PC (both NA and EU) since the July 10 incremental patch. The console servers are unaffected. We're still investigating the cause and hope to have an update for you early next week.

I guess the update early this week didn't include it after all.

Enodoc

From another thread:

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

So, no fix for deathmatches?

We're still working on it. We promised an update early this week, and we will still deliver on that promise. We're looking at numbers over the next 24 hours and should be able to provide an update tomorrow. In the meantime, if you're on PC/Mac let us know if you notice any difference today compared to last week.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi everyone,

The issue with Deathmatch Battleground game modes not spinning up as often as other game modes on PC/Mac is now fixed. This fix came in after we finalized the patch notes, so it is not currently listed. We'll be updating the patch notes this afternoon. Thanks again to everyone who brought this issue to our attention.

seatox

Just had a deathmatch load... but it loaded 3v3v4, suddenly everyone lagged out, and were forced out via what i presume was lag induced crash or quitting because their ping was in the 3000s

There is something WRONG with deathmatch.

Edit: PC NA by the way. And now I'm stuck in an infinite battleground queue after it popped 3 times in a row, but failed to form because someone declined.

paulsimonps

Done a few deathmatches on PC NA since the fix and all is working well for me.

seatox

meh could be related to the general crashiness of the servers then. at least a deathmatch popped, i guess?

Edit: yeah, deathmatch seems to be back up, just had two in a row, though the lag is spikey.

Also warden-stack healing OP, but I won't complain too much because it just got my sorc the one battlegrounds win I needed for the event achievement. Nuts to the janky, matchmakingless disaster that is the current battlegrounds, i'm going back to cyrodiil.