The Vampire Lord (Magicka Templar build)...

TheDoomsdayMonster

Waffennacht wrote: »

FYI chudan gives approximately 10% DMG mitigation, not 15%

When you do the math of 663 resist equaling 1% of damage reduction, it comes out to about 11.9% damage negation (7920÷663)...

But in actual practice, it's around 15% negation...

TheDoomsdayMonster

I have updated the OP to adjust the numerical values so that they will be accurate once the Horns of the Reach update goes live on console...

MarzAttakz

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

I have updated the OP to adjust the numerical values so that they will be accurate once the Horns of the Reach update goes live on console...

I have to commend you for sticking to your idea no matter what.

TheDoomsdayMonster

MarzAttakz wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

I have updated the OP to adjust the numerical values so that they will be accurate once the Horns of the Reach update goes live on console...

I have to commend you for sticking to your idea no matter what.

Thank you!




It does help that Chudan will be getting buffed with the update (it will give a total of 8284 Physical/Spell Resist at all times to go along with 1205 Max Health); it doesn't negate what I will lose with the changes to Defending, Sharpened, or Thief, but the build should still be strong...

TheDoomsdayMonster

I got to to admit though, depending on how this build performs once I am able to thoroughly test it out after the update, changes may be in order (especially as pertains to weapon traits)...

But we'll chew that fat once we get there...

chris25602

@TheDoomsdayMonster if your on pc is there any chance we could see a superstar(addon) screen grab?

TheDoomsdayMonster

chris25602 wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster if your on pc is there any chance we could see a superstar(addon) screen grab?

I'm on ps4...

I think it's possible to get a screen shot of my build and post it, but I'm not sure how...

Jawasa

@TheDoomsdayMonster you could try chudan 1 p with 1 p pirate skeleton and the slot the major armour buff. Would probably take you too heavy armour lvls.

Minno

Jawasa wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you could try chudan 1 p with 1 p pirate skeleton and the slot the major armour buff. Would probably take you too heavy armour lvls.

To account for defending trait nerfs, you'll need the following:
- pirate medium or heavy yellow with 23 CP LA focus/spell resistance (2408 armor)
- or boost with Lady mundas (2742 spell/physical armor)


Mundas change does impact offensive rotations. Pirate+CP resists does not. I'm still reviewing how resistance values impact play, especially with builds using resistance skill debuffs.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Jawasa wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you could try chudan 1 p with 1 p pirate skeleton and the slot the major armour buff. Would probably take you too heavy armour lvls.

Interesting idea; gonna give it a try...

Thanks!

Minno

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you could try chudan 1 p with 1 p pirate skeleton and the slot the major armour buff. Would probably take you too heavy armour lvls.

Interesting idea; gonna give it a try...

Thanks!

They both give 2975 each at gold level. Together they give you only 500 resists less than bloodspawn and is more consistent lol.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Minno wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you could try chudan 1 p with 1 p pirate skeleton and the slot the major armour buff. Would probably take you too heavy armour lvls.

Interesting idea; gonna give it a try...

Thanks!

They both give 2975 each at gold level. Together they give you only 500 resists less than bloodspawn and is more consistent lol.

Excellent point...

Will definitely give this a try...

Triharder1224

Any chance on getting the champion point distrubution?

TheDoomsdayMonster

Triharder1224 wrote: »

Any chance on getting the champion point distrubution?

I'll definitely roll that out later on tonight...

TheDoomsdayMonster

Ok, here is the CP distribution:

Thaumaturge: 37
Master at Arms: 37
Blessed: 32
Elfborn: 37
Elemental Expert: 37
Spell Erosion: 40


Shade: 12
Tumbling: 37
Tenacity: 37
Arcanist: 37
Mooncalf: 23
Warlord: 37
Siphoner: 37


Expert Defender: 37
Quick Recovery: 32
Hardy: 37
Elemental Defender: 37
Light Armor Focus: 1
Ironclad: 37
Resistant: 39

TheDoomsdayMonster

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Ok, here is the CP distribution:

Thaumaturge: 72
Master at Arms: 11
Blessed: 0
Elfborn: 72
Elemental Expert: 37
Spell Erosion: 38


Shade: 21
Tumbling: 61
Tenacity: 37
Arcanist: 37
Mooncalf: 37
Warlord: 37
Siphoner: 0


Expert Defender: 37
Quick Recovery: 37
Hardy: 37
Elemental Defender: 37
Light Armor Focus: 1
Ironclad: 37
Resistant: 39
Thick Skinned: 5

I have been tinkering with the CP distribution with this build, and have found a way to optimize it for better performance...

The above that is bolded reflects the new values...

ioo

I love your build I tried it out on my templar and I think it may be my favorite build ever, but I have a few questions.
1. What race are you using?
2. Why Warlord for cp? I thought warlord was a stamina thing correct me if I'm wrong.
3. Why not use aggressive horn for your healing bar ultimate?

Thanks so much for posting this build!

TheDoomsdayMonster

ioo wrote: »

I love your build I tried it out on my templar and I think it may be my favorite build ever, but I have a few questions.
1. What race are you using?
2. Why Warlord for cp? I thought warlord was a stamina thing correct me if I'm wrong.
3. Why not use aggressive horn for your healing bar ultimate?

Thanks so much for posting this build!

I'm glad you like the build!

Ok, to answer your questions:

1) Breton...the Magicka Regen and Magicka Cost Reduction racial passives go very well with this build.

2) Warlord reduces the amount of stamina you need to Break Free; since Stamina is low on a Magicka character, having a cost reduction to this is valuable.

3) Agressive Warhorn is very usable. Its a good Ult and you could easily use it instead of Replenishing Barrier. I prefer Replenishing Barrier though as its pure damage negation and is very effective at keeping your group alive. Also, you get bit of Ult back every time one of the wards go down, and so it helps itself refresh faster (and if your group members have pets, they get the damage shield as well, which means more wards, which means faster Ult regen).


Thanks again for trying out the build!

ioo

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

ioo wrote: »

I love your build I tried it out on my templar and I think it may be my favorite build ever, but I have a few questions.
1. What race are you using?
2. Why Warlord for cp? I thought warlord was a stamina thing correct me if I'm wrong.
3. Why not use aggressive horn for your healing bar ultimate?

Thanks so much for posting this build!

I'm glad you like the build!

Ok, to answer your questions:

1) Breton...the Magicka Regen and Magicka Cost Reduction racial passives go very well with this build.

2) Warlord reduces the amount of stamina you need to Break Free; since Stamina is low on a Magicka character, having a cost reduction to this is valuable.

3) Agressive Warhorn is very usable. Its a good Ult and you could easily use it instead of Replenishing Barrier. I prefer Replenishing Barrier though as its pure damage negation and is very effective at keeping your group alive. Also, you get bit of Ult back every time one of the wards go down, and so it helps itself refresh faster (and if your group members have pets, they get the damage shield as well, which means more wards, which means faster Ult regen).


Thanks again for trying out the build!

No problem! Thanks for the answers!

LadyLethalla

@TheDoomsdayMonster How is this build, for PVE? Specifically, would it work for VMA? If so, would it work with a High Elf?

thanks

TheDoomsdayMonster

LadyLethalla wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster How is this build, for PVE? Specifically, would it work for VMA? If so, would it work with a High Elf?

thanks

I've never done Vet MA, so I honestly don't know...

But I would imagine it would do well; as long as you keep your HoT's active, the Combat Physician Damage Shield will proc the moment its cooldown is over allowing you to either achieve or come close to its ability to completely negate 81000+ damage per minute...

Your heals will be very good as the Spell Crit and Crit Modifier are high (63% and 83% respectively)...

And because of Mighty Chudan and the triple stat glyphs that are in all your armor, you can definitely take a beating...


Edit: And I have completed all Vet 4 man dungeons with this build...

LadyLethalla

@TheDoomsdayMonster Thanks; good to know. And High Elf...? Or...?

TheDoomsdayMonster

LadyLethalla wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster Thanks; good to know. And High Elf...? Or...?

I think it would be good for a High Elf (due to the Magicka Passives), but not ideal as this build doesnt use a Destro Staff nor does it use any elemental damage other than Magic based...

Edit: I am a Breton on this build.

LadyLethalla

@TheDoomsdayMonster Ok thanks. I will try it on my High Elf... there's always the option of a race change. Oh and I already had one Vamp Lord sharp sword in my bank... bonus!

ioo

Is it worth it to keep Thaumaturge at 72? I thought this build only had one damage over time ability with structured Entropy unless ritual of retribution or invigorating drain count as dot I’m not sure

TheDoomsdayMonster

ioo wrote: »

Is it worth it to keep Thaumaturge at 72? I thought this build only had one damage over time ability with structured Entropy unless ritual of retribution or invigorating drain count as dot I’m not sure

Its absolutely worth it to keep Thaumaturge at 72...

Puncturing Sweeps, Invigorating Drain, and Devouring Swarm all benefit from Thaumaturge...

I cant recall if Structured Entropy does or not; I think it does, but I'm not in a position to double check and tell you conclusively at this time...

ioo

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

ioo wrote: »

Is it worth it to keep Thaumaturge at 72? I thought this build only had one damage over time ability with structured Entropy unless ritual of retribution or invigorating drain count as dot I’m not sure

Its absolutely worth it to keep Thaumaturge at 72...

Puncturing Sweeps, Invigorating Drain, and Devouring Swarm all benefit from Thaumaturge...

I cant recall if Structured Entropy does or not; I think it does, but I'm not in a position to double check and tell you conclusively at this time...

Oh ok thx for the info I had no idea Sweeps or devouring swarm counted as dot

ioo

Also I have another question: For the mighty chudan set should I use the heavy or light set? Do you recommend all light or do you have 2 heavy and 5 light?

Edit: Sry I didn't see the 5 light 1 medium 1 heavy on the first page, but should the mighty chudan helm or shoulders be heavy or medium or does it not matter?

TheDoomsdayMonster

ioo wrote: »

Also I have another question: For the mighty chudan set should I use the heavy or light set? Do you recommend all light or do you have 2 heavy and 5 light?

Edit: Sry I didn't see the 5 light 1 medium 1 heavy on the first page, but should the mighty chudan helm or shoulders be heavy or medium or does it not matter?

Naw, it doesnt matter which is medium and which is heavy...

ioo

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

ioo wrote: »

Also I have another question: For the mighty chudan set should I use the heavy or light set? Do you recommend all light or do you have 2 heavy and 5 light?

Edit: Sry I didn't see the 5 light 1 medium 1 heavy on the first page, but should the mighty chudan helm or shoulders be heavy or medium or does it not matter?

Naw, it doesnt matter which is medium and which is heavy...

Ok thx again for the info