Discussion for Magicka NB skills atm

NightbladeMechanics

Xsorus wrote: »

I've done 10k crits in pvp with concealed with certain burst builds

-raises hand-

My record this patch is 13.9k.

I had that resto ult Major Force rolling, and I don't think the guy knew what a CP was. lowbies That was with a hair under 2200 regen, too. I kind of want to see someone in a full damage build. lol

burglar

FrostFallFox wrote: »

I mainly play Sorcerer but I started playing Magnightblade in pvp and at first I didn't know what the point was or how to be effective unless you were a bomber.

But I think the things that set it apart is the fear, cloak, and teleport. I've never seen anyone use it besides myself but the other fear morph, manifestation of terror, is pretty cool and effective I think once you get used to it.

Idk, I just play it like a Sorcerer tbh, but with different little tricks.

Oh and I agree about the speed buff to impale, I stopped using it because I felt like people were dodging it lol.

After 30+ fights where I perfectly timed my abilities, and estimated my distance to maximize the utility of the teleport for shadow image, to only then be beaten by a sorcerer pressing a couple of buttons to cast shields and get lucky with insta shard procs, I gave up. Maybe that's why you don't see anyone else using shadow image, or fear (people just break free)... or anything else for that matter. I sort of quit playing with the morrowind patch. ZOS sucks, magblade has been nerfed almost every update in the past year.

Not to mention ZOS is rewarding people who are subscribed to ESO+ from july 5-9th with free dwarven crates. No rewards for people who subscribed to ESO+ since launch but cancelled after the morrowind patch, though. Sounds like some beginning fiscal year stat ***.

I used to defend these guys, too.

mb10

ProbablePaul wrote: »

FrostFallFox wrote: »

I mainly play Sorcerer but I started playing Magnightblade in pvp and at first I didn't know what the point was or how to be effective unless you were a bomber.

But I think the things that set it apart is the fear, cloak, and teleport. I've never seen anyone use it besides myself but the other fear morph, manifestation of terror, is pretty cool and effective I think once you get used to it.

Idk, I just play it like a Sorcerer tbh, but with different little tricks.

Oh and I agree about the speed buff to impale, I stopped using it because I felt like people were dodging it lol.

After 30+ fights where I perfectly timed my abilities, and estimated my distance to maximize the utility of the teleport for shadow image, to only then be beaten by a sorcerer pressing a couple of buttons to cast shields and get lucky with insta shard procs, I gave up. Maybe that's why you don't see anyone else using shadow image, or fear (people just break free)... or anything else for that matter. I sort of quit playing with the morrowind patch. ZOS sucks, magblade has been nerfed almost every update in the past year.

Not to mention ZOS is rewarding people who are subscribed to ESO+ from july 5-9th with free dwarven crates. No rewards for people who subscribed to ESO+ since launch but cancelled after the morrowind patch, though. Sounds like some beginning fiscal year stat ***.

I used to defend these guys, too.

@ProbablePaul

lol story of my life when facing sorcs, ive come up with different ways to kill them specifically now. Sometimes works, sometimes doesnt.
But considering the combinations needed, lack of burst heal or shield and awareness of resource bar, Mag NB is on a whole different level of difficulty compared to magicka sorc.
Its literally 3 skills, shields and streak. The back bar is almost a luxury sometimes lmao and not to mentiont they get a THIRD skill bar if they use their ultimate

Yep, sucks.

max_only

WacArnold wrote: »

Siphoning attacks should go back the way it was, and merciless should go back to 4. BUT to many people used mag blades the class was completely op, to easy to play, to much damage, to tanky, infinite resources, the class was borderline god. The devs had no choice but to nerf it.

In what world??

Nightblade easy to play? Borderline god? I think you mean Templars are easy to play and Sorcerers are borderline god-mode. Nothing cheesier than a heavy armor proc-tato Sorc and the shield stacking they used to get away with.

Nightblades are easy? smh, never heard of such malarkey.

NightbladeMechanics

mb10 wrote: »

ProbablePaul wrote: »

FrostFallFox wrote: »

I mainly play Sorcerer but I started playing Magnightblade in pvp and at first I didn't know what the point was or how to be effective unless you were a bomber.

But I think the things that set it apart is the fear, cloak, and teleport. I've never seen anyone use it besides myself but the other fear morph, manifestation of terror, is pretty cool and effective I think once you get used to it.

Idk, I just play it like a Sorcerer tbh, but with different little tricks.

Oh and I agree about the speed buff to impale, I stopped using it because I felt like people were dodging it lol.

After 30+ fights where I perfectly timed my abilities, and estimated my distance to maximize the utility of the teleport for shadow image, to only then be beaten by a sorcerer pressing a couple of buttons to cast shields and get lucky with insta shard procs, I gave up. Maybe that's why you don't see anyone else using shadow image, or fear (people just break free)... or anything else for that matter. I sort of quit playing with the morrowind patch. ZOS sucks, magblade has been nerfed almost every update in the past year.

Not to mention ZOS is rewarding people who are subscribed to ESO+ from july 5-9th with free dwarven crates. No rewards for people who subscribed to ESO+ since launch but cancelled after the morrowind patch, though. Sounds like some beginning fiscal year stat ***.

I used to defend these guys, too.

@ProbablePaul

lol story of my life when facing sorcs, ive come up with different ways to kill them specifically now. Sometimes works, sometimes doesnt.
But considering the combinations needed, lack of burst heal or shield and awareness of resource bar, Mag NB is on a whole different level of difficulty compared to magicka sorc.
Its literally 3 skills, shields and streak. The back bar is almost a luxury sometimes lmao and not to mentiont they get a THIRD skill bar if they use their ultimate

Yep, sucks.

Replying to all three of the comments in this little chain, I find mag sorc to be a pretty easy matchup both when I'm destro/resto and when I'm in a melee spec. Do you have specific questions or issues with the matchup, or just general inexperience or discomfort with it?

mb10

[/quote]
Replying to all three of the comments in this little chain, I find mag sorc to be a pretty easy matchup both when I'm destro/resto and when I'm in a melee spec. Do you have specific questions or issues with the matchup, or just general inexperience or discomfort with it? [/quote]

@NightbladeMechanics

I use destro/resto
Id be using my combinations of skills to cc them, apply dots and light attack/swallow soul at the same time but they literally always stand there and shield stack the whole time and it just seems to be a 'who's resources are running out first?'
If its them lol they will just streak away usually, if its me im in a little trouble but id always save enough to sneak away.

The other issue I have is that theyre seemingly able to sneak in their attacks while they shield stack and their monster set helps too.
At this stage though, I just think your ultimate with a cc and the grim focus proc all hitting together is the key to beating them.

Theyre literally the only opposing set up I struggle with. The other classes are fine tbh. I played a stamina NB before and mag sorcs were maybe the easier targets of them all.

BaByDontHurtMe

Your troubles will be gone in 4-6 weeks with Torugs Pact infused Oblivion Glyph and ele drain on target then you can use a second set of your choice may be Overwhelming and call it "Sorcs be Gone" build.

mb10

BaByDontHurtMe wrote: »

Your troubles will be gone in 4-6 weeks with Torugs Pact infused Oblivion Glyph and ele drain on target then you can use a second set of your choice may be Overwhelming and call it "Sorcs be Gone" build.

@BaByDontHurtMe why is that mate??

Kram8ion

I just respected to magblade after a long time stamblade and it's not better but different which is probably keeping my interest (destro/DW) tourogs and knight slayer no monster set, I'm certainly not destroying groups but am actually really enjoying the skill change. I haven't changed my race from wood elf or mundus yet but we'll see how it goes
I did this a coupl of months ago and changed back the next day (expensive) but I am going to stick with it for a bit longer this time until next patch probably and yes I only play one character

Kram8ion

BaByDontHurtMe wrote: »

Your troubles will be gone in 4-6 weeks with Torugs Pact infused Oblivion Glyph and ele drain on target then you can use a second set of your choice may be Overwhelming and call it "Sorcs be Gone" build.

They won't be gone but they is gonna be taken down a peg or two
Stupid jumpy wizards

thankyourat

mb10 wrote: »

Replying to all three of the comments in this little chain, I find mag sorc to be a pretty easy matchup both when I'm destro/resto and when I'm in a melee spec. Do you have specific questions or issues with the matchup, or just general inexperience or discomfort with it? [/quote]

@NightbladeMechanics

I use destro/resto
Id be using my combinations of skills to cc them, apply dots and light attack/swallow soul at the same time but they literally always stand there and shield stack the whole time and it just seems to be a 'who's resources are running out first?'
If its them lol they will just streak away usually, if its me im in a little trouble but id always save enough to sneak away.

The other issue I have is that theyre seemingly able to sneak in their attacks while they shield stack and their monster set helps too.
At this stage though, I just think your ultimate with a cc and the grim focus proc all hitting together is the key to beating them.

Theyre literally the only opposing set up I struggle with. The other classes are fine tbh. I played a stamina NB before and mag sorcs were maybe the easier targets of them all.
[/quote]

Yes sorcs are so annoying. They aren't a difficult match, but with enough sustain they can stall out a fight against a magblade indefinitely with double shields and resto ultimate, But if you are careful they won't be able to kill you either. The match up use to be a lot more favorable before the siphoning attacks nerf. I do think it's the magblades fight to lose though

BaByDontHurtMe

@mb10 I'm sorry I can't find the original thread but there have been several threads already in PTS section about Torugs OR just talking about Oblivion damage glyphs and other glyphs in the PTS

Here is a sample thread talking about the Torugs Pact buff:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/358651/torugs-pact-this-got-indirectly-buffed#latest

Metemsycosis

Has anyone co

thankyourat wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

Replying to all three of the comments in this little chain, I find mag sorc to be a pretty easy matchup both when I'm destro/resto and when I'm in a melee spec. Do you have specific questions or issues with the matchup, or just general inexperience or discomfort with it?

@NightbladeMechanics

I use destro/resto
Id be using my combinations of skills to cc them, apply dots and light attack/swallow soul at the same time but they literally always stand there and shield stack the whole time and it just seems to be a 'who's resources are running out first?'
If its them lol they will just streak away usually, if its me im in a little trouble but id always save enough to sneak away.

The other issue I have is that theyre seemingly able to sneak in their attacks while they shield stack and their monster set helps too.
At this stage though, I just think your ultimate with a cc and the grim focus proc all hitting together is the key to beating them.

Theyre literally the only opposing set up I struggle with. The other classes are fine tbh. I played a stamina NB before and mag sorcs were maybe the easier targets of them all.
[/quote]

Yes sorcs are so annoying. They aren't a difficult match, but with enough sustain they can stall out a fight against a magblade indefinitely with double shields and resto ultimate, But if you are careful they won't be able to kill you either. The match up use to be a lot more favorable before the siphoning attacks nerf. I do think it's the magblades fight to lose though[/quote]

On ps4 it is engine guardian plus resto ult and shield stacks that provides mad survivability. Since i used to attack stamina im only able to stale mate this type of sorc. Most others are in a hard spot it seems to me.

NightbladeMechanics

Nah, I can sorcs down with proper combos and fear chains to pressure their stam. Assassin's Will can take over 3/4 of a typical impen light armor sorc's health bar if he isn't running Boundless Storm. Hit their shield a couple of times, Tether if they don't reapply it, Assassin's Will, Concealed/Impale if that doesn't finish them. It's a very fast and lethal combo and works wonders against sorcs.