Proc sets need to go!!!

Koensol

thankyourat wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Skoria will be absolute BiS next patch for pvp. It is already too strong in my opinion. Yesterday I was literally instagibbed by the following combo:
Curse, light attack, skoria proc, endless fury (most ridiculous skill in the game). The damage literally all popped at once. I mean how can anyone defend this kind of nonsense? Burst procs in itself are very strong already, but in combination with a queued up burst from a sorc, it is completely ridiculous. All he had to do was cast curse, mages wrath and light attack. It's just cast and forget gameplay. I am a stamnb so I know im squishy, but this isn't right.

You could have cloaked and skoria would've miss completely. You have about 2 seconds before it lands. Listen for the audio que and hit cloak as the meteor gets closer. Amorous is strong only when used by good players who can line up a burst combo with cc as skoria lands. Weapon enchants like flame damage can proc skoria as well as poisons

Of course I could have cloaked. But if you are not on your cloak bar, you will not have enough time to switch. In a perfect world we will dodge/block/cloak all attacks. That doesn't make these sort of combo's any less OP. I shouldn't be instagibbed because of 1 little mistake. That is just bad game design. The same with cliff racer. Of course I can cloak it, but it's still a ridiculous ability.

Ectheliontnacil

@Koensol

Koensol wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Skoria will be absolute BiS next patch for pvp. It is already too strong in my opinion. Yesterday I was literally instagibbed by the following combo:
Curse, light attack, skoria proc, endless fury (most ridiculous skill in the game). The damage literally all popped at once. I mean how can anyone defend this kind of nonsense? Burst procs in itself are very strong already, but in combination with a queued up burst from a sorc, it is completely ridiculous. All he had to do was cast curse, mages wrath and light attack. It's just cast and forget gameplay. I am a stamnb so I know im squishy, but this isn't right.

You could have cloaked and skoria would've miss completely. You have about 2 seconds before it lands. Listen for the audio que and hit cloak as the meteor gets closer. Amorous is strong only when used by good players who can line up a burst combo with cc as skoria lands. Weapon enchants like flame damage can proc skoria as well as poisons

Of course I could have cloaked. But if you are not on your cloak bar, you will not have enough time to switch. In a perfect world we will dodge/block/cloak all attacks. That doesn't make these sort of combo's any less OP. I shouldn't be instagibbed because of 1 little mistake. That is just bad game design. The same with cliff racer. Of course I can cloak it, but it's still a ridiculous ability.

You should be "instagibbed" because of one mistake. Mistakes should result in you dying.

And anyway: you have more than enough time to cloak. Even if you aren't running cloak, you can just block skoria OR you can dodge, so other attacks will miss and skoria by itself won't kill you.

Bottom line, skoria has a delay to the proc, that's what they've done to a lot of other proc sets in horns of the reach and quite frankly that's all a good player needs to counter proc sets very effectively.

Koensol

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

@Koensol

Koensol wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Skoria will be absolute BiS next patch for pvp. It is already too strong in my opinion. Yesterday I was literally instagibbed by the following combo:
Curse, light attack, skoria proc, endless fury (most ridiculous skill in the game). The damage literally all popped at once. I mean how can anyone defend this kind of nonsense? Burst procs in itself are very strong already, but in combination with a queued up burst from a sorc, it is completely ridiculous. All he had to do was cast curse, mages wrath and light attack. It's just cast and forget gameplay. I am a stamnb so I know im squishy, but this isn't right.

You could have cloaked and skoria would've miss completely. You have about 2 seconds before it lands. Listen for the audio que and hit cloak as the meteor gets closer. Amorous is strong only when used by good players who can line up a burst combo with cc as skoria lands. Weapon enchants like flame damage can proc skoria as well as poisons

Of course I could have cloaked. But if you are not on your cloak bar, you will not have enough time to switch. In a perfect world we will dodge/block/cloak all attacks. That doesn't make these sort of combo's any less OP. I shouldn't be instagibbed because of 1 little mistake. That is just bad game design. The same with cliff racer. Of course I can cloak it, but it's still a ridiculous ability.

You should be "instagibbed" because of one mistake. Mistakes should result in you dying.

And anyway: you have more than enough time to cloak. Even if you aren't running cloak, you can just block skoria OR you can dodge, so other attacks will miss and skoria by itself won't kill you.

Bottom line, skoria has a delay to the proc, that's what they've done to a lot of other proc sets in horns of the reach and quite frankly that's all a good player needs to counter proc sets very effectively.

I should die, yes. But not be instagibbed. There is a difference. Besides, you're missing the point. Burst procs (when they land) are too strong and easy to use in combination with other burst combo's. It's just too much dmg for the amount of effort and skill needed. Don't live in denial. But rest assured, there are even more ridiculous things in ESO. They are called resource poisons.

Ectheliontnacil

@Koensol

Koensol wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

@Koensol

Koensol wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Koensol wrote: »

Skoria will be absolute BiS next patch for pvp. It is already too strong in my opinion. Yesterday I was literally instagibbed by the following combo:
Curse, light attack, skoria proc, endless fury (most ridiculous skill in the game). The damage literally all popped at once. I mean how can anyone defend this kind of nonsense? Burst procs in itself are very strong already, but in combination with a queued up burst from a sorc, it is completely ridiculous. All he had to do was cast curse, mages wrath and light attack. It's just cast and forget gameplay. I am a stamnb so I know im squishy, but this isn't right.

You could have cloaked and skoria would've miss completely. You have about 2 seconds before it lands. Listen for the audio que and hit cloak as the meteor gets closer. Amorous is strong only when used by good players who can line up a burst combo with cc as skoria lands. Weapon enchants like flame damage can proc skoria as well as poisons

Of course I could have cloaked. But if you are not on your cloak bar, you will not have enough time to switch. In a perfect world we will dodge/block/cloak all attacks. That doesn't make these sort of combo's any less OP. I shouldn't be instagibbed because of 1 little mistake. That is just bad game design. The same with cliff racer. Of course I can cloak it, but it's still a ridiculous ability.

You should be "instagibbed" because of one mistake. Mistakes should result in you dying.

And anyway: you have more than enough time to cloak. Even if you aren't running cloak, you can just block skoria OR you can dodge, so other attacks will miss and skoria by itself won't kill you.

Bottom line, skoria has a delay to the proc, that's what they've done to a lot of other proc sets in horns of the reach and quite frankly that's all a good player needs to counter proc sets very effectively.

I should die, yes. But not be instagibbed. There is a difference. Besides, you're missing the point. Burst procs (when they land) are too strong and easy to use in combination with other burst combo's. It's just too much dmg for the amount of effort and skill needed. Don't live in denial. But rest assured, there are even more ridiculous things in ESO. They are called resource poisons.

Hmmm I agree with you on resource poisons, they're not as bad as they used to be though

And yes procs are strong, but there's now other strong alternatives (I mean most pve setups might not even run monster sets next patch). The reason why I created this thread was because there was no counter play to certain procs (viper for example, because it was instant and unavoidable) and also because a lot of stamina procs were stackable. The solution may not be perfect but at least we have fair warning for every proc now or that proc does decreased/or dot damage. I'd take that and run, a good a solution as you're going to get .