Would you want a "class re-choose" token/option in the game?

ghwaite

Do I want it? No. It is easy to roll new characters in game and doesn't take long at all.

Would I use it? Maybe...

MinarasLaure

Voted yes as I really wanted it for when the warden came out.
Had to roll a new toon and ended up not liking the warden (still like the concept of a "druid/beast master tho)
Still, the option would be good to have

Stuhlfleisch

Now my question is: did polls on this forum ever change/add anything?

Stuhlfleisch

bump

profundidob16_ESO

Stuhlfleisch wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

I would pay lots of crowns for it!

You say it. :P

aaaaah now we're talking !

scipionumatia

Yes please! Id really like a class change token, I really don't want to level up my 12th toon and buy a new character slot but I would really like to have a mag dk (only class I don't have right now). having to grind out mages guild, sky shards etc. Id much rather take one of my stamblades, or magpars and convert it to a dk. I don't even mind if I have to pay for a race change for my redguard TBH.
In comparison to race change class change doesn't seem that big of a deal, like in this game I can go from a male imperial Templar to a female argonian Templar. so I can change my gender, and species, but I cant change my job lol. seems rather strange.
and for the roleplayers I don't think it would be story breaking if you went and offered this. like my character used to have X job but now has Y job because of Z reasoning.
Personally IDGAF I just don't wanna have to level up a 12th toon when I have 2 stamblades and I only really play my khajiit (between the 2 stamblades) would rather pay for class change and race change to dunmer

gard

Yes!

Along with an alliance change token. Back when you couldn't pve cross-alliance. I created a few toons in non-preferred alliances so that I could help some guildmates. Now those are wasted slots because I can't bring myself to level horse skills again.

rafaelcsmaia

scipionumatia wrote: »

Yes please! Id really like a class change token, I really don't want to level up my 12th toon and buy a new character slot but I would really like to have a mag dk (only class I don't have right now). having to grind out mages guild, sky shards etc. Id much rather take one of my stamblades, or magpars and convert it to a dk. I don't even mind if I have to pay for a race change for my redguard TBH.
In comparison to race change class change doesn't seem that big of a deal, like in this game I can go from a male imperial Templar to a female argonian Templar. so I can change my gender, and species, but I cant change my job lol. seems rather strange.
and for the roleplayers I don't think it would be story breaking if you went and offered this. like my character used to have X job but now has Y job because of Z reasoning.
Personally IDGAF I just don't wanna have to level up a 12th toon when I have 2 stamblades and I only really play my khajiit (between the 2 stamblades) would rather pay for class change and race change to dunmer

Lore wise, its much harder to come up with a history of your male imperial having his little "friend" cut off and growing scales than a class change lmao.

Im all positive for class tokens, people who say its easy to roll new chars just dont give a damn about achievements progression at all, not to mention some of them (holyday ones) you cant really get again so no you would lack those.

honestly, all arguments of those against are easily debatable.

1. Easy to roll new chars = You lose your achievements
2. People will jump on the "meta" class all the time => they already do, also i doubt people who jump classes that often would bother to respec classes, they likely already have all possible setups. The cost would be high too so really, no.
3. It would be pay to win => You can already have any spec you have by logoff-logon, not an issue here.
4. Making new chars give new life to the game => oh yeah, like i love to watch the same football match 45 times, the same can be said about doing the harborage with 12 toons
5. ZOS would lose profit on slot sales => think again, if you change class, youll prolly change race too, profits would be equal if not more
6. No good game provided this feature => Ive played a lot of mmos, and in most of them, its a highly demanded feature, pirate servers provide it. Also this statement is like saying that all games should follow a magic formulae for success, no innovation ever=success? i dont think so
7. Its hard to code and can mess with the game => Seriously, someone who says that have no idea about coding at all, if a developer can mess the game by simply adding a reset feature, the code itself should be so tighly coupled that this feature would be the least of their problems. About being hard, well we are paying for it, arent we?

I remember before race changes, the same arguments were made, the game still works, no one is changing class like they change socks and the world didnt end.

Arbit

Bit late for it to exist if it did, I already wanted to swap my templar for a warden and not have to redo all the quests and everything, but at this point I have 2 characters. Not so bad I guess since I have the choice of 2 classes now instead of simply a warden. At the time I wouldve appreciated the token tho.

Meld777

I would like that. As long as I get to keep my achievements, the other terms don't really matter.

Asharin wrote: »

Yes from me, if only because as a father of three (soon four!) and with one being autistic and needing a lot of care, I don't get as much time to play as I'd like.

Use condoms.

PlagueSD

Vercingetorix wrote: »

I'd opt for a Reverse-Patch Token instead.

Morrowind is trash and I prefer being allowed to use my class' abilities instead of exclusively using Lightning Staff heavy attacks...

Seems to be a L2P issue. I have no sustain issues on my S. Warden or S. Nightblade. Buddy of mine has no issues healing PUGS where everyone stands in fire. There's also been times where he's had to DPS and heal at the same time because all the DPS is doing is light attacks.

MercyKilling

Seems to me that the arguments put forth in favor of this idea all have one basic thing: "I don't want to lose my progress when starting a new character.".

Tough. That's why it's a NEW character. If you really want to try out class abilities, how about the test server? That's what it's for. Testing.

Reading between the lines of all the proponents of this idea...I see this:

"What I really want is a way to switch between FotM build/class/race at will."

That's never going to happen, no matter how you disguise the request.

Lynx7386

Id turn my nightblade into a warden in a heartbeat. That nb has been my main since eso early access, has all crafting skills maxed and most others too, but I was pushing for a nature based class since beta. Now that its here I just don't feel like having to start all over.

Stuhlfleisch

MercyKilling wrote: »

Seems to me that the arguments put forth in favor of this idea all have one basic thing: "I don't want to lose my progress when starting a new character.".

Tough. That's why it's a NEW character. If you really want to try out class abilities, how about the test server? That's what it's for. Testing.

Reading between the lines of all the proponents of this idea...I see this:

"What I really want is a way to switch between FotM build/class/race at will."

That's never going to happen, no matter how you disguise the request.

You read my description wrong, I was stating, that I wish it to be a one time only change and not like race or appearence to be usable as many times as I want. I just want to have a token, that let´s me experience a diffrent class, since I played the game for so long with the one char, and then be done with it and stick with this class for as long as my char exists. No back and forth here.

Stovahkiin

Absolutely not, and this is a necro thread

Moltyr

My heart says yes. My mind says no. If you can just level any character just to swap the class later...it would allow people to play the easiest class in the world (Sorc - sorry to call you out)...quickly level skill lines, farm gear, etc....then swap to a less cheese class later.

Jhalin

I'm going with Depends

If the new class skills retain the experience and levels from before the swap, I'd be interested.

Otherwise. It'd be the start of another grind fest to get the three lines up to 50.

SirDopey

It's not needed when you can go from 1 - 50 in literally a day.....

ZiRM

I don't think it would be a good idea.

Alaztor91

Instead of class change, ZoS should make more stuff account bound, leveling from 1-50 is the easiest part of rolling a new toon, but leveling mount, getting skyshards,etc is the boring grindy part.

While some stuff like mages guild and skillpoints are not something that I personally think should be account bound, I really think that mount stats, motifs learned, recipes learned, achievements, titles , trait research SHOULD be account bound.

In my personal case I don't want to start new toons just because when I press J and open the achievement window I see all that stuff incomplete lol.

Luigi_Vampa

MercyKilling wrote: »

Seems to me that the arguments put forth in favor of this idea all have one basic thing: "I don't want to lose my progress when starting a new character.".

Tough. That's why it's a NEW character. If you really want to try out class abilities, how about the test server? That's what it's for. Testing.

Reading between the lines of all the proponents of this idea...I see this:

"What I really want is a way to switch between FotM build/class/race at will."

That's never going to happen, no matter how you disguise the request.

But we already can race change... so maybe it can happen?

Anyway, this topic is always confusing to me. You have people who say "No, everyone will switch to FOTM!" in the same breath as saying "Leveling a new character is sooo easy! Just do that?" and "Make one of every class! That's why you have the space!"

Well, if leveling is so easy as to be trivial and I could have made and leveled every class anyway, why haven't all the FOTM hoppers already switched? When I read the forums, and talk to people in game, I see a lot of people who have shelved their main because of nerfs and what have you. They are now playing another character of a different class. Why would it be bad for them to have their main be that new class?

You can't use FOTM scare arguments and this game is so easy you can level a character in a day arguments at the same time. I mean, you can, but they kinda cancel themselves out right?

Also for character choices mattering. Shouldn't race be a bigger problem than class? I mean, I can learn new skills in real life. I can start a new career, go to school, gain knowledge, move to a new city and reinvent myself. Now, if my Templar wants to learn how to summon Deadra, or get kinky with a lava whip its impossible? There a secret police that says you already choose your particular branch of magic skills, no take backs!?

Luigi_Vampa

Double Post.

lucky_Sage

I said it before I would quit as soon as its announced if they did class change
I wanted it at one point but I changed my mind for to many good reasons
so no never add it

Wolfshead

How about the add factions token which I personal would like to have so I can get my RP char into right faction

Stuhlfleisch

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Absolutely not, and this is a necro thread

Polls need to be kept alive, in order for them, to work.

rafaelcsmaia

MercyKilling wrote: »

Seems to me that the arguments put forth in favor of this idea all have one basic thing: "I don't want to lose my progress when starting a new character.".

Tough. That's why it's a NEW character. If you really want to try out class abilities, how about the test server? That's what it's for. Testing.

Reading between the lines of all the proponents of this idea...I see this:

"What I really want is a way to switch between FotM build/class/race at will."

That's never going to happen, no matter how you disguise the request.

Actually i just want to change my sorc (Against all people saying everyone would be one) to DK or NB, since i have all them fully maxed and i find their gameplay a lot more fun. Its not a matter of FOTM, is a matter of having OCD and wanting to play my "main" in a class i enjoy more.

And btw, PTS is only for pc, if I wanted to use it id have to buy a copy of ESO for pc, which i find stupid tbh

Stuhlfleisch

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

MercyKilling wrote: »

Seems to me that the arguments put forth in favor of this idea all have one basic thing: "I don't want to lose my progress when starting a new character.".

Tough. That's why it's a NEW character. If you really want to try out class abilities, how about the test server? That's what it's for. Testing.

Reading between the lines of all the proponents of this idea...I see this:

"What I really want is a way to switch between FotM build/class/race at will."

That's never going to happen, no matter how you disguise the request.

Actually i just want to change my sorc (Against all people saying everyone would be one) to DK or NB, since i have all them fully maxed and i find their gameplay a lot more fun. Its not a matter of FOTM, is a matter of having OCD and wanting to play my "main" in a class i enjoy more.

And btw, PTS is only for pc, if I wanted to use it id have to buy a copy of ESO for pc, which i find stupid tbh

Funnily enough, I would change my main (sorc) also to a nightblade, simply because I enjoy the skills and overall playstyle more. :P

Slick_007

mocap wrote: »

All that "just roll new character" comes from PvPers. They don't care about PvE progress, so it's easy for them to create new class, power level it to 50 and go Cyro for whatever reason.

no, it doesnt. your comments have no basis in fact.

Nerouyn

The lack of this is the reason I didn't buy Morrowind and stopped playing. Seriously.

ZO promised spellcrafting, including nature themed spells. So I bought up extra character slots and made myself a bunch of nature themed characters. Fully horse trained them - uggh - and started on traits. Leveled them to 50 during double xp events on dolmens (quick and easy) and have started on crafting. But haven't played any content with them beyond the starter island.

Then instead of delivering spellcrafting, they revived the warden class.

I only want to play one class (because ESO should be classless) and had settled on sorcerer. Warden is definitely more to my tastes both in theme and design but I've only got 2 slots and despise horse training way too much to delete fully horse trained characters.

I also have too many crown store purchases to consider playing on a different account. Some of those items won't even be available from crates for a long time and when they are, will cost a small fortune.

Do I just make do with sorcerer and try to pretend wardens don't exist? Or do I just stop playing until Morrowind comes down enough in price to account for having to pay for those extra 2 slots plus only being left with 2 characters on the account that I'd play?

So I queue up trait research, log out and go play something else.

Enodoc

MercyKilling wrote: »

Seems to me that the arguments put forth in favor of this idea all have one basic thing: "I don't want to lose my progress when starting a new character.".

Tough. That's why it's a NEW character. If you really want to try out class abilities, how about the test server? That's what it's for. Testing.

Yes. Starting progress from the beginning is what a new character is for. But people who want to change classes don't want a new character, they want a new class on an existing character. Class is only 10% of character development, and that's before you consider all of those other things that are completely unrelated to class:

Enodoc wrote: »

1500 quests, 1000 POIs, 180 riding skill-ups, 366 skyshards, 297 lorebooks, 3000 Eidetic books, 6 weapon lines, 3 armour lines, 5 Guild lines, 6 crafting lines, 4 world lines, and 1200 achievements.

Your class choice and class progression has no bearing on any of these, so if you want to try a new class, you shouldn't have to have all these things reset as well.