Vivec EU-PC

Extinct_Solo_Player

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Is that the smartest answer you came along with the harsh reality of your factions you where presented?

If you consider this wannabe smart guy nonsense actually an answer, youre no different from those typical angry EP/DC i farm 1v2+ and after they ragewhipering me calling me zergling while killing them+their friends solo.

Keep it up, im pretty sure you can entertain me+forum more.

I'm pretty sure you're the dude in ad ball zergs who always streaks 5+ times to the nearest keep door when everyone else starts to drop like flies but ofc you're a solo player fighting the huge dc and ep zergs on low pop AD lmfao

Biro123

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

PCNA Vivec has all 3 factions within 100 points of eachother.

PCEU Vivec has been non-competitive for 2 years.

Because EP+DC main other campaigns, they appear only on Vivec to farm.
Main vivec, have a strong presence as faction during the whole day and not when zergs log in and the campaign will be more balanced.

Now if you think that we will lock the campaign until zergs+special snowflakes that whine instead of actually doing something, i think youre asking for too much.

Whut? I'm pretty sure that the people who are able to farm others aren't the same people who go to an empty campaign to PVDoor.....

Now if you're talking about during the day (as opposed to evening), what happens is that DC is populated by randoms.. and by that I simply mean anyone not in any kind of organised group.. why? because their usual friends are working.
So basically they go it alone, or with other ungrouped randoms…
There maybe between 4 and 8 together at the same place at the same time - but with the whole map yellow, all they can do is go to maybe warden or Rayles to try to siege it.. AD who are bored have their 24 man zerg, with scouts in all nearby keeps, all instantly show up in that keep as soon as the attack starts - thirsty for blood. Swarm the poor 6 un-co-ordinated blues while they try to disentangle from siege.. then go back to congratulating themselves..
After a few goes, those DC say 'sod it' and either log off or go to another server. AD continues to congratulate themselves for driving them off (killing PVP).

Later a couple more DC log in - same again, log off

And again..

Each time, they're thinking - 'pointless logging into Vivec till primetime when we get an EVEN population - then we can fight back. And oddly, AD gets hammered then cries on the forums.

usmcjdking

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

PCNA Vivec has all 3 factions within 100 points of eachother.

PCEU Vivec has been non-competitive for 2 years.

Because EP+DC main other campaigns, they appear only on Vivec to farm.
Main vivec, have a strong presence as faction during the whole day and not when zergs log in and the campaign will be more balanced.

Now if you think that we will lock the campaign until zergs+special snowflakes that whine instead of actually doing something, i think youre asking for too much.

I'm asking you to be as competitive in the game as you are on the forums.

It's why when I go sparring I don't perpetually spar 10 year olds.

Nicko_Lps

Biro123 wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

PCNA Vivec has all 3 factions within 100 points of eachother.

PCEU Vivec has been non-competitive for 2 years.

Because EP+DC main other campaigns, they appear only on Vivec to farm.
Main vivec, have a strong presence as faction during the whole day and not when zergs log in and the campaign will be more balanced.

Now if you think that we will lock the campaign until zergs+special snowflakes that whine instead of actually doing something, i think youre asking for too much.

Whut? I'm pretty sure that the people who are able to farm others aren't the same people who go to an empty campaign to PVDoor.....

Now if you're talking about during the day (as opposed to evening), what happens is that DC is populated by randoms.. and by that I simply mean anyone not in any kind of organised group.. why? because their usual friends are working.
So basically they go it alone, or with other ungrouped randoms…
There maybe between 4 and 8 together at the same place at the same time - but with the whole map yellow, all they can do is go to maybe warden or Rayles to try to siege it.. AD who are bored have their 24 man zerg, with scouts in all nearby keeps, all instantly show up in that keep as soon as the attack starts - thirsty for blood. Swarm the poor 6 un-co-ordinated blues while they try to disentangle from siege.. then go back to congratulating themselves..
After a few goes, those DC say 'sod it' and either log off or go to another server. AD continues to congratulate themselves for driving them off (killing PVP).

Later a couple more DC log in - same again, log off

And again..

Each time, they're thinking - 'pointless logging into Vivec till primetime when we get an EVEN population - then we can fight back. And oddly, AD gets hammered then cries on the forums.

I only see you cry on the forums among some other DC+EP.
Im just here and enjoying the view

Biro123

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

PCNA Vivec has all 3 factions within 100 points of eachother.

PCEU Vivec has been non-competitive for 2 years.

Because EP+DC main other campaigns, they appear only on Vivec to farm.
Main vivec, have a strong presence as faction during the whole day and not when zergs log in and the campaign will be more balanced.

Now if you think that we will lock the campaign until zergs+special snowflakes that whine instead of actually doing something, i think youre asking for too much.

Whut? I'm pretty sure that the people who are able to farm others aren't the same people who go to an empty campaign to PVDoor.....

Now if you're talking about during the day (as opposed to evening), what happens is that DC is populated by randoms.. and by that I simply mean anyone not in any kind of organised group.. why? because their usual friends are working.
So basically they go it alone, or with other ungrouped randoms…
There maybe between 4 and 8 together at the same place at the same time - but with the whole map yellow, all they can do is go to maybe warden or Rayles to try to siege it.. AD who are bored have their 24 man zerg, with scouts in all nearby keeps, all instantly show up in that keep as soon as the attack starts - thirsty for blood. Swarm the poor 6 un-co-ordinated blues while they try to disentangle from siege.. then go back to congratulating themselves..
After a few goes, those DC say 'sod it' and either log off or go to another server. AD continues to congratulate themselves for driving them off (killing PVP).

Later a couple more DC log in - same again, log off

And again..

Each time, they're thinking - 'pointless logging into Vivec till primetime when we get an EVEN population - then we can fight back. And oddly, AD gets hammered then cries on the forums.

I only see you cry on the forums among some other DC+EP.
Im just here and enjoying the view

no u.

dtsharples

Our little AD friend is zerging Nikel as we speak.
Not alone
Not 1 v 4
Not even 1 v 8
Its just a zerg. Like 20 v 5.
It started off as quite a nice even fight actually, was fun for a while. 5 v 5 But quickly ruined by zergers.
I'm beginning to smell something, i'm not sure what it is..........* Eyes the Constipated Bull *

Eclipse0990

dtsharples wrote: »

Our little AD friend is zerging Nikel as we speak.
Not alone
Not 1 v 4
Not even 1 v 8
Its just a zerg. Like 20 v 5.
It started off as quite a nice even fight actually, was fun for a while. 5 v 5 But quickly ruined by zergers.
I'm beginning to smell something, i'm not sure what it is..........* Eyes the Constipated Bull *

Nah I'm sure rest just turned up to watch the action.

Edit: Or to watch him 1vX the 5 snowflakes who were too busy crying in forums.

Nicko_Lps

dtsharples wrote: »

Our little AD friend is zerging Nikel as we speak.
Not alone
Not 1 v 4
Not even 1 v 8
Its just a zerg. Like 20 v 5.
It started off as quite a nice even fight actually, was fun for a while. 5 v 5 But quickly ruined by zergers.
I'm beginning to smell something, i'm not sure what it is..........* Eyes the Constipated Bull *

Tears?
More Tears?
DC complains about zergs...The faction with most zerg guilds EU


Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Alliance war is 24/7

StamWhipCultist

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

dtsharples wrote: »

Our little AD friend is zerging Nikel as we speak.
Not alone
Not 1 v 4
Not even 1 v 8
Its just a zerg. Like 20 v 5.
It started off as quite a nice even fight actually, was fun for a while. 5 v 5 But quickly ruined by zergers.
I'm beginning to smell something, i'm not sure what it is..........* Eyes the Constipated Bull *

Tears?
More Tears?
DC complains about zergs...The faction with most zerg guilds EU


Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Alliance war is 24/7

Roses are red
Violets are blue.
And in real pvp so would be you

dtsharples

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue.
Dandelions are Yellow - and in certain countries they mythically have the ability to make you pee yourself!
Kinda like how everyone does reading your warped self-deluded swill here

*There is a pretty nice Cyrodiil Haiku thread somewhere in the Forums, for anyone interested in more Poetry *

* forgot I needed to add one of these, to be taken more seriously as a human.

Nicko_Lps

StamWhipCultist wrote: »

Nicko_Lps wrote: »

dtsharples wrote: »

Our little AD friend is zerging Nikel as we speak.
Not alone
Not 1 v 4
Not even 1 v 8
Its just a zerg. Like 20 v 5.
It started off as quite a nice even fight actually, was fun for a while. 5 v 5 But quickly ruined by zergers.
I'm beginning to smell something, i'm not sure what it is..........* Eyes the Constipated Bull *

Tears?
More Tears?
DC complains about zergs...The faction with most zerg guilds EU


Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
Alliance war is 24/7

Roses are red
Violets are blue.
And in real pvp so would be you

dtsharples wrote: »

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue.
Dandelions are Yellow - and in certain countries they mythically have the ability to make you pee yourself!
Kinda like how everyone does reading your warped self-deluded swill here

*There is a pretty nice Cyrodiil Haiku thread somewhere in the Forums, for anyone interested in more Poetry *

Tears stop?

Good, thats better. I love this attitude and the whole attention you both offer me my friends. Thank you both

Cogo

Hi kids!

I installed the game again and had a fun night in Cyro. I even met an old "friend" at 5am who wanted to paint the map yellow.
I really suck in my gamestyle now lol. It has been 15 months for me though ! But stopping AD from capping empty keeps was just as hilerious as I recall.

I will be playing, but not every day as I did before. I had tons of fun in Cyro, so I want more of that!

To Pact: We will WIN the campaign! Look me up if you want a crazy orc who fears NOTHING!
To Pact enemies: Please attack me when you see me

This is me, with my 2 years old gear!


See you all on the battlefield.

Ps, Kris is cute.

Bergzorn

Welcome back. May I suggest a quick stop at one of the new outfit stations?

MLRPZ

No, Oghur Hatemachine doesn't care for fashion. he only cares for killing

Cogo

Bergzorn wrote: »

Welcome back. May I suggest a quick stop at one of the new outfit stations?

Wut are you talkin about elf! I look purdy!

Nermy

WB Oghur...

runningtings

Just logged in there to a completely yellow map with all scrolls.
Tonight though once its even pop again we will have pushed right back as usual, absolute waste of time playing the campaign the way it works now.

These AD guys who play PVDoor during the day are sad.

StamWhipCultist

runningtings wrote: »

These AD guys who play PVDoor during the day are sad.

inb4 they explain u that they r heroes for fighting doors

Eclipse0990

StamWhipCultist wrote: »

runningtings wrote: »

These AD guys who play PVDoor during the day are sad.

inb4 they explain u that they r heroes for fighting doors

Doors are OP. Ask DC faction. We seem to have hard time sieging doors!

Nermy

So it's come to this, DC running in HUUUGEEE 4 guild zergs. Did all the AD clowns relog their smurf toons and join you?

Everywhere we went last night we couldn't find any decent AD groups and the DC groups were 3-4 guilds running as one. How boring. Do you even get a kill when there's that many people?

Come meet us guild on guild guys... Or can't you handle it?

IndorilArwynLlethran

Oh, come on, if they could gvg, they wouldn't gather that many noobs in one place

dtsharples

Vivec is a waste of everyone's time now. Any sense of balanced competition went out of the window 2 years ago.
Every faction 'zergs', it's a fact of Cyrodiil. EP just do it at midnight, DC do it in prime-time and AD do it at 6am.

And Wabbajack asking for G v G is just hilarious. You guys wouldn't last 2 mins versus another organised guild, you have gotten too used to swarming over soloers and newbies for that.
Also, you seem to mistake people wearing a tabard for an organised raid. A lot of guilds on either faction are just there to mess around, not everyone enjoys playing as a rapids spammer or heal-bot.

My suggestion would be to head on over to the NA server, and pit yourself against some of their organised guilds.
At least there they have a lot of organised guilds that happily fight each other, instead of actively avoiding each other on the regular.

LarsS

Did not see wabbas yesterday but had a number of nice fights with Noxious. Very much doubt that there were 4 huge DC guilds around, did not see them. We try to find battles away from the DC zerg, so we go were hope to find lots of enemies. So we may have missed them 😉

DivineFirstYOLO

LarsS wrote: »

Did not see wabbas yesterday but had a number of nice fights with Noxious. Very much doubt that there were 4 huge DC guilds around, did not see them.Well we try to find battles away from the DC zerg, but go were there is lots of enemies So we may have missed them 😉

Please..TDA is the biggest "organised" zerg group on the PC EU server at the moment.. you took over the title from DE lol.
It's because of guilds like yours that people on the forums are asking to nerf ball groups...

AllPlayAndNoWork

FACT 1) Everone zergs on PC EU VIVEC.. Just some a little more than others.
FACT 2) AD are Unopposed and have all scrolls (UK time 8am to 6pm) (My time).
FACT 3) DC generally take map back (not always but most times) (UK prime time (7pm to 10pm)).
FACT 4) AD recap map back when everyone else goes to bed or gets bored (See FACT 1 and repeat).

I don't have any problem with these facts at all. My problem is that AD wins the campaign everytime like this... Not really earning it... its killing the game in fact.

My proposal is this .... capped maps should generate much less points per tick until the factions pops are re-balanced.
So if you cap the map when the map is empty you should get much less points.... a ball park figure could be to reduce the points tally by a 1/4.... then as the populations balances out more you get more points for what you have... 1/2.... 3/4 and so on. Capping it during prime time should give you better points in fact say 1.5x more.... i just think this will keep campaigns "alive" for longer and maybe more players will play for the campaign a bit more.

The way low pop bonus points atm is calculated is just pure garbage and does nothing to keep the campaign "alive" for longer..... The campaign is usually lost within the first week of a 30 day campaign in PC EU VIVEC.

LarsS

AllPlayAndNoWork wrote: »

FACT 1) Everone zergs on PC EU VIVEC.. Just some a little more than others.
FACT 2) AD are Unopposed and have all scrolls (UK time 8am to 6pm) (My time).
FACT 3) DC generally take map back (not always but most times) (UK prime time (7pm to 10pm)).
FACT 4) AD recap map back when everyone else goes to bed or gets bored (See FACT 1 and repeat).

I don't have any problem with these facts at all. My problem is that AD wins the campaign everytime like this... Not really earning it... its killing the game in fact.

My proposal is this .... capped maps should generate much less points per tick until the factions pops are re-balanced.
So if you cap the map when the map is empty you should get much less points.... a ball park figure could be to reduce the points tally by a 1/4.... then as the populations balances out more you get more points for what you have... 1/2.... 3/4 and so on. Capping it during prime time should give you better points in fact say 1.5x more.... i just think this will keep campaigns "alive" for longer and maybe more players will play for the campaign a bit more.

The way low pop bonus points atm is calculated is just pure garbage and does nothing to keep the campaign "alive" for longer..... The campaign is usually lost within the first week of a 30 day campaign in PC EU VIVEC.

Sanct (ZS) and I and others have suggested similar pop based dynamic Campaign ticks, but the only thing ZOS have done is to let the underpop bonus kick in faster, by far not enough.

LarsS

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

LarsS wrote: »

Did not see wabbas yesterday but had a number of nice fights with Noxious. Very much doubt that there were 4 huge DC guilds around, did not see them.Well we try to find battles away from the DC zerg, but go were there is lots of enemies So we may have missed them 😉

Please..TDA is the biggest "organised" zerg group on the PC EU server at the moment.. you took over the title from DE lol.
It's because of guilds like yours that people on the forums are asking to nerf ball groups...

Funny, hardly our fault, or other ballgroups fault, that most people want to play alone and just running with the zerg. In fact even a decently lead lfg group can win over the zerg. I advice people who want to get more out of pvp, to either join a small scale guild or a raid guild like TDA.

Nermy

LarsS wrote: »

Did not see wabbas yesterday but had a number of nice fights with Noxious. Very much doubt that there were 4 huge DC guilds around, did not see them. We try to find battles away from the DC zerg, so we go were hope to find lots of enemies. So we may have missed them 😉

We are the same Lars, try to get away from the beaten track for fights. Didn't see you guys about but saw Hungry Wolves and a few others running together and a DC friend told me about the zerg, didn't believe him until they rolled over us... lol!

dtsharples wrote: »

Vivec is a waste of everyone's time now. Any sense of balanced competition went out of the window 2 years ago.
Every faction 'zergs', it's a fact of Cyrodiil. EP just do it at midnight, DC do it in prime-time and AD do it at 6am.

And Wabbajack asking for G v G is just hilarious. You guys wouldn't last 2 mins versus another organised guild, you have gotten too used to swarming over soloers and newbies for that.
Also, you seem to mistake people wearing a tabard for an organised raid. A lot of guilds on either faction are just there to mess around, not everyone enjoys playing as a rapids spammer or heal-bot.

My suggestion would be to head on over to the NA server, and pit yourself against some of their organised guilds.
At least there they have a lot of organised guilds that happily fight each other, instead of actively avoiding each other on the regular.

We have come a looong way since those days, come have a go, you'll see. We don't avoid anyone - we were really sad to see UF disband because they set a bench mark and we loved testing ourselves against them. We usually came off worse, not always I might add but we became better for it in the end.

Vivec is not the place it used to be but it's still fun.

Nermy

LarsS wrote: »

Funny, hardly our fault, or other ballgroups fault, that most people want to play alone and just running with the zerg. In fact even a decently lead lfg group can win over the zerg. I advice people who want to get more out of pvp, to either join a small scale guild or a raid guild like TDA.

Totally agree Lars...

AllPlayAndNoWork

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

LarsS wrote: »

Did not see wabbas yesterday but had a number of nice fights with Noxious. Very much doubt that there were 4 huge DC guilds around, did not see them.Well we try to find battles away from the DC zerg, but go were there is lots of enemies So we may have missed them 😉

Please..TDA is the biggest "organised" zerg group on the PC EU server at the moment.. you took over the title from DE lol.
It's because of guilds like yours that people on the forums are asking to nerf ball groups...

Wabba, Noxious & Wipe inc all do the same..... and have same kind of numbers......