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Alphaa

You go girl!

Ulfgarde

LarsS wrote: »

Once again DC crowned emp at primetime. Thanks AD for all kills our guildraid got, while we took and defended Alessia during the push for emp.

Nice.

Good thing you got an emp that doesn't caltrops bomb and subsequently lose emp after 30 mins, lmao.

AddiZ

Things in Vivec are quiet... maby too quiet

raviour

This was jokes the other day, never seen such a close one with an emp denial. Note the faulty siege and the flip is just after 4:10.

https://youtu.be/TPBmXPFCxs8

Music was just what was playing at the time but fits nicely.

MLRPZ

That's probably the best 1vX video I've ever see.

rumple9

How did AD go from being a low 3rd to first overnight 24th March after losing all week. I thought EP might win for once. Still 3 weeks left though...

Skander

Ep won't ever win. Their keeps are too much close togheter meaning the pvp there is more occuring. Thus DC and AD push the reds when they havea chance

killimandrosb16_ESO

rumple9 wrote: »

How did AD go from being a low 3rd to first overnight 24th March after losing all week. I thought EP might win for once. Still 3 weeks left though...

very early morning zergs of course I logged in at around midday just to do some pve and blues/reds on low bar, yellow poplocked. Its also a tactic. Then they can just log off around the time where pop is even and let the poor yellows enjoying prime-time fights smell the mud for the rest of the evening. Hasnt it been like this for a long time?

Nermy

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

rumple9 wrote: »

How did AD go from being a low 3rd to first overnight 24th March after losing all week. I thought EP might win for once. Still 3 weeks left though...

very early morning zergs of course I logged in at around midday just to do some pve and blues/reds on low bar, yellow poplocked. Its also a tactic. Then they can just log off around the time where pop is even and let the poor yellows enjoying prime-time fights smell the mud for the rest of the evening. Hasnt it been like this for a long time?

Longer than I care to remember, just go back on this thread to the start. It was refreshing to see EP at the top of the boards, I'm sure we can stay in contention because we are stronger during primetime but we need to stop the morning caps.

killimandrosb16_ESO

Nermy wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

rumple9 wrote: »

How did AD go from being a low 3rd to first overnight 24th March after losing all week. I thought EP might win for once. Still 3 weeks left though...

very early morning zergs of course I logged in at around midday just to do some pve and blues/reds on low bar, yellow poplocked. Its also a tactic. Then they can just log off around the time where pop is even and let the poor yellows enjoying prime-time fights smell the mud for the rest of the evening. Hasnt it been like this for a long time?

Longer than I care to remember, just go back on this thread to the start. It was refreshing to see EP at the top of the boards, I'm sure we can stay in contention because we are stronger during primetime but we need to stop the morning caps.

well, I logged in at around 7 in the morning to find the whole map completely yellow. Pact had around 7-8 players around while Bigboss ran a group of 20+ . I understand how it is frustrating for the yellows to be pushed hard at primetime, but apart from Bigboss most of the yellow names I dont see at primetime. Meaning they log off when the real action begins, and thats more intriguing, because why do wvw if you log off when it actually begins? I wonder what would happen if blues and reds got some ok teams up at this weird hours, would the yellows log off then too? I heard rumours that there were some americans playing at the very start of the campaign for reds, and thats why reds were leading at the beginning, if so that could explain why the good start. At the same time the fights are good at primetime, blues have some very competent players and squads, yellows as mentioned earlier normally folds around the time where all factions are locked, but Ive also seen some ok individuals there, so apart from the probable outcome yellows win again the campaign at times is good fun

Bam_Bam

Nermy wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

rumple9 wrote: »

How did AD go from being a low 3rd to first overnight 24th March after losing all week. I thought EP might win for once. Still 3 weeks left though...

very early morning zergs of course I logged in at around midday just to do some pve and blues/reds on low bar, yellow poplocked. Its also a tactic. Then they can just log off around the time where pop is even and let the poor yellows enjoying prime-time fights smell the mud for the rest of the evening. Hasnt it been like this for a long time?

Longer than I care to remember, just go back on this thread to the start. It was refreshing to see EP at the top of the boards, I'm sure we can stay in contention because we are stronger during primetime but we need to stop the morning caps.

Tru dat. But there simply isn't the numbers in the morning. And you know what EP are like for trying to defend keeps and outposts they flip (they don't/won't/can't). It's sad because when all factions are poplocked and the EP guilds are online, AD gets slapped around. LOL

killimandrosb16_ESO

Happy easter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcpzNT9z66c

Qbiken

raviour wrote: »

This was jokes the other day, never seen such a close one with an emp denial. Note the faulty siege and the flip is just after 4:10.

https://youtu.be/TPBmXPFCxs8

Music was just what was playing at the time but fits nicely.

Holy *** that´s close xD

Biro123

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

Happy easter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcpzNT9z66c

Is it wrong of me to have giggled all the way through watching that?

Azurya

Biro123 wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

Happy easter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcpzNT9z66c

Is it wrong of me to have giggled all the way through watching that?

yes it was.

BohnT

Azurya wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

Happy easter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcpzNT9z66c

Is it wrong of me to have giggled all the way through watching that?

yes it was.

Ohh i see zerglings crying because other zerglings got rekt.

Azurya

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

Happy easter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcpzNT9z66c

this is sick

killimandrosb16_ESO

ye the beats are pretty dope I agree

AbraXuSeXile

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Nermy

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

There's a few DC guilds I've noticed that do that...

But in all honesty, I have noticed times when Wabba is fighting somewhere and then we seem to be surrounded by pugs/raids and suddenly we're part of a big zerg. Usually we move elsewhere or go hit other keeps, make our own fights.

killimandrosb16_ESO

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Nermy

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Test yourself against Big Boss? lmao!!

killimandrosb16_ESO

Nermy wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Test yourself against Big Boss? lmao!!

Well, instead of complaining about vivec being stuffed with players at prime-time, I suggested entering at a different hour if the problem is having to face random puglings interfering with the gvg fights. And who knows, maybe Bigboss and saras early morning zerg can either turn out to be challenging or is stopped. Both ways a win/win situation for the server imo

Nermy

I would love to enter Cyrodiil at some other time but sadly I have a life and need to work to pay the mortgage.

AbraXuSeXile

Nermy wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

There's a few DC guilds I've noticed that do that...

But in all honesty, I have noticed times when Wabba is fighting somewhere and then we seem to be surrounded by pugs/raids and suddenly we're part of a big zerg. Usually we move elsewhere or go hit other keeps, make our own fights.

I dont care what DC do, if i could opt out of being in a faction i would. Them days are gone.

AbraXuSeXile

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Its been 3 years since i had the motivation to login at 8am and grief scrubs.

killimandrosb16_ESO

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Its been 3 years since i had the motivation to login at 8am and grief scrubs.

well, you dont care about faction play, neither do you care about fighting random groups. Youre looking for good gvg fights in a game which has lost the majority of good gvg guilds ages ago (if there actually were many of them at all), meaning youre locked into searching for 2-3 guild groups who might/might not be around the time you play. Cyrodiil doesnt give you the challenge you are looking for at a satisfying frequency. Maybe time to move on? CU in the horizon and GW2 still offers decent competitive gvg play afaik

AbraXuSeXile

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Its been 3 years since i had the motivation to login at 8am and grief scrubs.

well, you dont care about faction play, neither do you care about fighting random groups. Youre looking for good gvg fights in a game which has lost the majority of good gvg guilds ages ago (if there actually were many of them at all), meaning youre locked into searching for 2-3 guild groups who might/might not be around the time you play. Cyrodiil doesnt give you the challenge you are looking for at a satisfying frequency. Maybe time to move on? CU in the horizon and GW2 still offers decent competitive gvg play afaik

Actually the problem is there is many guild groups but a lot of them are too scared to move away from other guilds/pugs causing ridiculous lag.

I'm looking for the old style of play where guilds would create many different fights rather than the 2 big fights on the map and nothing elsewhere.

killimandrosb16_ESO

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Its been 3 years since i had the motivation to login at 8am and grief scrubs.

well, you dont care about faction play, neither do you care about fighting random groups. Youre looking for good gvg fights in a game which has lost the majority of good gvg guilds ages ago (if there actually were many of them at all), meaning youre locked into searching for 2-3 guild groups who might/might not be around the time you play. Cyrodiil doesnt give you the challenge you are looking for at a satisfying frequency. Maybe time to move on? CU in the horizon and GW2 still offers decent competitive gvg play afaik

Actually the problem is there is many guild groups but a lot of them are too scared to move away from other guilds/pugs causing ridiculous lag.

I'm looking for the old style of play where guilds would create many different fights rather than the 2 big fights on the map and nothing elsewhere.

What you are nailing here is how gvg works in most other competitive games, the better guilds will face other guilds of equal potential (gw2 comes to mind), while the pugs are mostly free to roam and play the map in pug groups. This ideal system makes the wvw lakes satisfying for all involved, the pugs have the excitement of playing the map and getting an end game reward or similar while the wvw guilds are free to challenge other wvw guilds in relatively remote areas. Without pointing fingers, it is obvious some guilds prefer to play the map game with the pugs, possibly as protection against suddenly having to challenge any real opposition, or simply because the need to win the campaign is of greater importance than the challenge gvg gives. In order to try to analyze why this is so, it could be necessary to examine the various guild groups roaming around. First of all, guild groups advertizing in /z for pugs to join their group is no real guild group. Its a pug group with a guild core. How many true guild groups with max numbers possible exists in cyrodiil? I cant name one tbh. Maybe Bigboss manages to pull together a complete guild group, but thats about it. The other groups which doesnt include pugs, are of numbers somewhere between 5 to 15. The first are all the smallscale groups running around inside towers with no incentives to broaden the horizon. Theyre happy running, getting the random pug kill every now and then until a zerg or a bigger guild group comes to wipe them. Thats not the ones your team is looking for. The other between 10-15 members is where you are challenging. I have seen only a handful of groups at vivec with these numbers. Last yesterday yellows had a group with the red scroll, obviously trying to pull other guilds to them, without any success. ZS normally do the same thing; cap a scroll and roam around with it in relatively open ground (hiding in tunnell is not considered fishing for a gvg fight) waiting for some bigger guild to come to challenge.
I can only speak for pact since I have my toons there, but apart from ZS, when theyre on, no other guilds actively search other factions guild groups in /z. ZS asks frequantly about the whereabouts of various other guild groups. Which makes me believe they are looking to fight them. Its seldom I hear other guilds ask offensively spotetrs the whereabouts of other groups. Maybe they prefer riding with the zerg? I dont know.
If you want to fight another guild group, often the only alternative is to challenge deep into the factions territory you want a fight with. If they dont respond, but instead spew pugs out to fight you, its not you who failed, but you did what you could.

AbraXuSeXile

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

What is the deal with all these hand holding guilds that sit with pugs and other guilds? Its sad for the game when guilds dont go out on their own to create a new fight but would rather nuttcup the zergs for an easy fight.

Its not hard, just show up somewhere around 0800 in the morning until 1600 in the afternoon and youll have all the empty space you need. ep and dc exclusively running smallscale in this period, and if you wanna test yourself against something bigger Bigboss and Saras always have a sizeable group of around 60 up

Its been 3 years since i had the motivation to login at 8am and grief scrubs.

well, you dont care about faction play, neither do you care about fighting random groups. Youre looking for good gvg fights in a game which has lost the majority of good gvg guilds ages ago (if there actually were many of them at all), meaning youre locked into searching for 2-3 guild groups who might/might not be around the time you play. Cyrodiil doesnt give you the challenge you are looking for at a satisfying frequency. Maybe time to move on? CU in the horizon and GW2 still offers decent competitive gvg play afaik

Actually the problem is there is many guild groups but a lot of them are too scared to move away from other guilds/pugs causing ridiculous lag.

I'm looking for the old style of play where guilds would create many different fights rather than the 2 big fights on the map and nothing elsewhere.

What you are nailing here is how gvg works in most other competitive games, the better guilds will face other guilds of equal potential (gw2 comes to mind), while the pugs are mostly free to roam and play the map in pug groups. This ideal system makes the wvw lakes satisfying for all involved, the pugs have the excitement of playing the map and getting an end game reward or similar while the wvw guilds are free to challenge other wvw guilds in relatively remote areas. Without pointing fingers, it is obvious some guilds prefer to play the map game with the pugs, possibly as protection against suddenly having to challenge any real opposition, or simply because the need to win the campaign is of greater importance than the challenge gvg gives. In order to try to analyze why this is so, it could be necessary to examine the various guild groups roaming around. First of all, guild groups advertizing in /z for pugs to join their group is no real guild group. Its a pug group with a guild core. How many true guild groups with max numbers possible exists in cyrodiil? I cant name one tbh. Maybe Bigboss manages to pull together a complete guild group, but thats about it. The other groups which doesnt include pugs, are of numbers somewhere between 5 to 15. The first are all the smallscale groups running around inside towers with no incentives to broaden the horizon. Theyre happy running, getting the random pug kill every now and then until a zerg or a bigger guild group comes to wipe them. Thats not the ones your team is looking for. The other between 10-15 members is where you are challenging. I have seen only a handful of groups at vivec with these numbers. Last yesterday yellows had a group with the red scroll, obviously trying to pull other guilds to them, without any success. ZS normally do the same thing; cap a scroll and roam around with it in relatively open ground (hiding in tunnell is not considered fishing for a gvg fight) waiting for some bigger guild to come to challenge.
I can only speak for pact since I have my toons there, but apart from ZS, when theyre on, no other guilds actively search other factions guild groups in /z. ZS asks frequantly about the whereabouts of various other guild groups. Which makes me believe they are looking to fight them. Its seldom I hear other guilds ask offensively spotetrs the whereabouts of other groups. Maybe they prefer riding with the zerg? I dont know.
If you want to fight another guild group, often the only alternative is to challenge deep into the factions territory you want a fight with. If they dont respond, but instead spew pugs out to fight you, its not you who failed, but you did what you could.

Yeah im not gonna read that.