Happy or Unhappy with the games direction

playsforfun

I've seen a lot of these post recently saying you're happy or unhappy about things within the game or the future game lets as a community consolidate these into one post.

Please explain reasons on you've chosen that answer and if you've any ideas on how to make things better for the longevity of the game.

WalksonGraves

Stuck on the fence

On the one hand they are trying to address long standing cp/resource imbalances and on the other they just took a hot *** all over everyone but sorcs.

Voxicity

Happy

Although I won't usually admit to it on the forums else I'd be branded a white knight fanboy Personally I find end game content too easy and I'm looking forward to more of a challenge

azoriangaming

Unhappy

I'm rather unhappy with the future change being implemented as they're being implement I think they could#ve been done in a better way rather than just nerfing people every 6 months and saying it's a buff if your max pool is like 19000 lol zos

notmeta

Stuck on the fence

i'm stuck on the fence as I don't do much end game content and just log on once in a while to do a little pvp in non-cp but i can see why people are upset with the future resources.

playsforfun

Unhappy

I like the game very much but the direction i believe it's going with the lack of resources and the classes hidden behind pay walls concerns me for the future

Browiseth

Unhappy

they're finally taking a step in the right direction but, on the other hand...

it's been like over a year since all the things they're addressing started becoming a problem. it's very clear all these balance issues are a secondary concern to zos

Stovahkiin

Unhappy

Eh, I think they did a damn good job with it for a while, but I think things are going downhill, if only somewhat. At the moment, Zeni has complete tunnel vision and really to me just seems to want to milk the crap out of the warden class.
I'm actually not personally too upset with the patch notes themselves or anything though.

Zeni also definitely is stuck in the mentality of "let's put it in the crown store!!". And I'd be fine with them adding more and more things the the CS, but apparently Zeni had no idea how pricing should work for some of the items they've been releasing. (i.e. housing and mounts)

sirston

Unhappy

the constant lie's....if you're a smart business, you never make promises you can't keep or make changes that will make the majority of your community mad at you. it just grinds my gears that they invited maybe like 10 streamers and players from across the games board and they still some how manage to frage it all up. Like get real.

Wrekkedd

Unhappy

"We are working on cyrodiil performance." -2015

EulogyL

"sometimes I get to do what I want to do. The rest of the time I do what I have to do" - some slave in Gladiator

I enjoy playing the game, roll with the changes, and try not to get hung up on worrying about things I can't control.

WalksonGraves

Stuck on the fence

EulogyL wrote: »

"sometimes I get to do what I want to do. The rest of the time I do what I have to do" - some slave in Gladiator

I enjoy playing the game, roll with the changes, and try not to get hung up on worrying about things I can't control.

Doesn't that guy *** himself and then get hacked apart by his partner?

Gabrielzavadski

Stuck on the fence

Look, I'll be completly honest.

The game is going into a good road, with the exeption of some things:

1. Unsolved bugs like: Servers problem, Cyrodill lag, in-game bugs, BOTS, etc...
2. I get it that i have to pay to see new lands, but i don't get it that i have to pay to use Imperial race and Warden class;
3. Absence of in-game GM's;
4. Calling Morrowind a Chapter and forcing subscribers to pay for it;
5. Supremely highly super HIGH PRICES for houses, and ZERO functionality;
6. Still no Weapon Dye and no Transmogrification.
7. (Can't think of anything else...)

Bananko

Happy

What if someone was literally stuck on the fence, whether in the game or in real life (or both)?

bubbygink

Happy

Happy with the direction. I think the easy mode sustain has needed nerfing for a long time. But I'm not totally please with some specific balancing decisions. For example, as a magblade the Siphoning Attacks rework concerns me. And I use the word "rework" instead of "nerf" because this wasn't just a simple nerf of the values. The removal of stam restoration from SA is a total rework of a core skill that changes the way Magblades will have to play.

Tl;dr: happy with overall direction, unhappy with some specific changes.

Narvuntien

Unhappy

I am unhappy but i don't think it is some conspiracy to get our money that everyone seems to think it is.

I don't know what it is with game makers never just going "my bad" and reverting changes they have made. They just seem to keep making new mistakes to cover up others they have made and it ends up finely balanced house of Cards..mistake cards.

The current issues are a result of cp changes but instead of (just) changing CP they went in and broke all the things thier own game.

ofSunhold

I don't think I understand the direction they're taking it. I just guess a lot, based on what the game is like, and then on the things they say, and the changes they make.

What freaks me out is that the people who make the decisions seem to be pretty out of touch with their game. Not to be insulting at all, just some of the stuff they say doesn't match up with reality very well, so what exactly are they basing their decisions on? THAT's a bit worrisome.

I'm still interested, and still having fun. So I'm in the wait-and-see camp I guess. Atm it looks like a train wreck... but I could be wrong.

jlboozer

Unhappy

The nerfing of every class because of things only 1% of the population can achieve has me concerned. I've preordered Morrowind and will try the changes. But if it's harder for me to complete things such as vMA simply because of their useless nerfs I will quit and go back to Destiny...I hope they don't ruin a game that I have so much fun playing currently. Some people that can complete veteran content now won't be able to complete that same content after the patch, that has me worried about the future of this game.

Gilvoth

Stuck on the fence

jlboozer wrote: »

The nerfing of every class because of things only 1% of the population can achieve has me concerned. I've preordered Morrowind and will try the changes. But if it's harder for me to complete things such as vMA simply because of their useless nerfs I will quit and go back to Destiny...I hope they don't ruin a game that I have so much fun playing currently. Some people that can complete veteran content now won't be able to complete that same content after the patch, that has me worried about the future of this game.

yes, i agree. they keep making changes that are just angering allot of people. i really hate this stuff.
i don't want to leave eso, and i find myself now every day making excuses for the changes they make and things they do but, sadly i have to admit eso decisions are just horrible for all of us on almost a constant basis now.

zaria

Unhappy

Stovahkiin wrote: »

Eh, I think they did a damn good job with it for a while, but I think things are going downhill, if only somewhat. At the moment, Zeni has complete tunnel vision and really to me just seems to want to milk the crap out of the warden class.
I'm actually not personally too upset with the patch notes themselves or anything though.

Zeni also definitely is stuck in the mentality of "let's put it in the crown store!!". And I'd be fine with them adding more and more things the the CS, but apparently Zeni had no idea how pricing should work for some of the items they've been releasing. (i.e. housing and mounts)

If they try to milk the warden we has real problem, as in stuff way worse than the insane nerf.

To sell warden make it an ranged stamina dps with pet a in the same ball park as pet sorcerer without needing fantasy (vMA) gear. Its something who 30% of the player base is looking for and easy to fix.
ZoS marketing campaign for Morrowind is not new coke level, I say its probably in the Ford edsel league.
And yes its caused lots of fear and doubt down on the guild level.

Palidon

Unhappy

I for one am sick and tired of ZOS changing the game. You set up your character with builds , gear and Champion point spreads that best suit their play style. Then ZOS will turn around and change everything making the build you had useless and you are back to square one. A really good example is the upcoming Morrowind expansion which is going to mess everything up yet again.

KochDerDamonen

Unhappy

My problem is not the nerfs come morrowind. Not the sale model of calling it a 'chapter'. Nothing so bombastic and new.

- Crafting consistently becomes less relevant with each patch, the only resurgence being Housing and that did nothing for the gear aspect of the crafts. Provisioning and Alchemy are nigh essential but anyone can do it with little investment. Enchanting takes more investment than those, and is technically essential but has no rewarding feeling to it. Equipment crafts ride a fine line wherein a couple of sets are useful sometimes (outside of levelling 1-cp160 or whatever) and being entirely unwanted, most of the sets are entirely forgettable and hold no purpose other than being a worse version of another set. Despite this, ZOS STILL tries to shove more and more motifs down our throats. It taunts me, I want to use the motifs to look a particular way but I will always do it knowing that I am gimping myself in the process.
- Stability. I could stop right there and most of you would know what I mean. Even on a strong PC, ESO has at least occasional performance issues. Innapropriately times loadscreens, framerate tanks, disappearing particle effects. On a weaker PC, or one of the consoles, performance during peak PvP or even Trials or vDungeons can tank to unplayably low, crashes are abundant, textures will fade in and out with no discernible reason. If one does not live near to the EU or NA server, 200ms+ base pings await regardless of your internet service.
- The grind. This one doesn't effect me too much personally, but it sure gets to friends. I know, I know. 'earn your gear' 'no fun in getting everything for free/instantly'. I agree with that. Then again, those thoughts falter when I watch someone run the same exact content for their hundredth, two hundredth, five hundredth... time, with no view of ever actually obtaining the item they desire in sight. It's abysmal, and I can't blame them when they want to step away from the game (temporarily, or otherwise)
- Stam/Mag/Health/Hybrid. Stamina is always strong thanks to some inherent damage and better access to run/dodge/block, but their group utilities disappoint. Magicka gets to deal singletarget dps, AoE dps, provide themselves shielding and healing, and the group other utilities. Health(tank) builds had better pick up some of each or both, or be a useless spud. Trying to hybridize kind of works, maybe, sometimes, you know if you try doing this that and the other thing on the night of a new moon. All around, class identity is neither strong enough to feel good or weak enough to feel unimportant. It doesn't feel right, at any point.

This things are consistent, and consistently moving in a direction away from where I'd like.

Turelus

Happy

I am happy with it, it's going to be challenging and cause some stress but over all I'm not unhappy.

mwo1480

Stuck on the fence

happy or not i will keep playing

dpencil1

Happy

I agree with what the devs are trying to do. They need to do more to even out the performance of the classes in dps, tanking, and healing, and they probably need to make heavy atracking on all weps as fast as it is on duel weild. Hopefuly some more changes will come over the next month to help with those issues.

Sydria

Unhappy

I feel in love with the game way back when it was released. Many things were improved since then (Crime System, Riding Skill per character, One Tamriel, Veteran Ranks removed etc) but balance has been going downhill for quite a while.

The game is advertised as "Play the way you want to play" but the reality ingame is the opposite.

Problems I am not happy with and that are ignored like forever:
- Animation Canceling:
Many people claim it to be "skillfull" but for me it makes the game feel broken and not fun when I play as DD.
- Weapons are not all viable:
Want to play a combo that makes sense like Bow/2H or 2H/2H? Well think again because in ESO you are bound to the one performing Stamina DD combo of DW/Bow.
All weapons should perform about equally for their role. (e.g. every combination of DW, Bow, 2H for Stamina DPS chars)
- Balance between all available Sets:
There are not just some sets being a bit better, there is just BIS, 1-2 Beginner pieces and the rest is apparently "junk".
- Balance between Magicka and Stamina:
It's been up and down between the two and one has always been way superior over the other each time.
- Difference between Casual and Top Players:
With all the mentioned above I have never played a game where the difference between those have been as big as in ESO.
Casuals are barely able to pull 10k DPS and are locked out of harder content like DLC dungeons or trials.
Top players on the other hand are pulling 40k+ DPS and are bored by how easy the content is for them.
- Potions make certain skills useless:
Some skills are never used anymore because everyone just uses potions to get the same effect and just slots more Dots.
- Balance between Classes:
Some classes performing better as others in certain roles just should not be the case. Every class can have their flavour but it should not be mandatory to play just one certain class to perform a role (e.g. Templar for healer, Sorcerer for Magicka DPS etc).
We are seeing the first improvements in this area with Shards/Orbs however.
- Overland content and non DLC normal dungeons are too easy (even for the casual player)
Since powercreep has gotten higher and CP were introduced overland content has turned into a joke.
- RNG Loots system:
This not fun for any player. It's a pain when things get rebalanced as well.
They should have changed the loot system a long time ago.


This does not mean I will stop playing but I'll probably stick to my Healer main.

Bam_Bam

Unhappy

Wrekkedd wrote: »

"We are working on cyrodiil performance." -2015

This x1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ad infinitum.

But seriously, ZoS doesn't give a toss about us players - just our cash. Any game developer with half an ounce of simple common sense knows that nerfing a game and there by making it less enjoyable, will not do the game any favours. But like said - they don't give a toss. Just give them the money. LOL

Bam_Bam

Unhappy

dpencil1 wrote: »

Hopefuly some more changes will come over the next month to help with those issues.

People have said this with every single previous update/dlc and NOTHING has beem done - don't hold your breath....

scorpiodog

Happy

Key point for me - BEGINNING, MIDDLE and END:
Zenimax is not letting a bunch of whingers force the game into a direction that is not possible to succeed over the long term.
People can scream for days about how they think their ideas are best, but its all just pulled out of their ass. The death of a game would be letting a minority of players control the direction of all content by being little spoiled drama llamas.

fred.thomsonb16_ESO

Unhappy

They really know how to waste money, if they were as good at using it as wasting it we would have spellcrafting, justice system pvp, jewelcrafting, etc...........rather than patch after patch of pointless changes and cash grab BS. Their market is quite clear these days so expect more trash; was watching likebutter (division streamer) yesterday and his group were straight in the cash shop, complaining about how the game was ass, running into endless bugs and game breaking issues whilst still buying crates for vanity items/gems for mounts. Sucked the god damn life out of me.

Tholian1

Unhappy

I am stocking up on soul gems. I have a feeling I will be needing them after Nerfwind goes live. Not happy about that.

And not happy that crafted sets continue to be mediocre.