ESO badly needs this!!

RapidUrsa

Zenimax please stop locking content behind pay walls! Since beta I have been wanting some sort of system that allows you to obtain mounts in game other than the horses! I believe a system similar to WOW would work and compliment ESO very nicely! I mean screw the £300 mounts, I want a Vet Trials mount that I can sit in Mournhold on!! Whats everyones thoughts?

KimoBitz

I have been begging for this, ever since I started playing this game.

Dracindo

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

souravami

That ship has sailed long ago. Crown store mounts are a steady source of revenue for ZOS. Don't think it'll change anytime soon.

DRXHarbinger

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

Turelus

As I have posted in other threads.

I feel they should have a standard (boring) version of every animal for sale in the game from stables which it makes sense to do so (some behind DLC paywalls, sorry) then make the Crown Store ones all variants and shiny.

However I find it unlikely this will happen as they release all of those normal variants as the first launch items for the Crown Store.

Dracindo

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

White wabbit

Gotta keep the game going and if that's people spending money buying flashy mounts then so be it

MehrunesFlagon

They could give us a naked skin.

klowdy1

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

Then you think too small. The only reason I buy crown crates is to support a buy to play game, with an optional sub fee. I don't buy crates to get the mount or costume I want, I just hope to get it this time.

Daemons_Bane

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

Some small Things..
1 : Yes I buy crownstore stuff to support them
2: Stop saying "we", when you mean "I"

DRXHarbinger

klowdy1 wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

Then you think too small. The only reason I buy crown crates is to support a buy to play game, with an optional sub fee. I don't buy crates to get the mount or costume I want, I just hope to get it this time.

Then that is small thinking. Think how a business reports it's takings..if you want to give them money then buy dlc not scam crates. I'd be 100% sure they'd report on their sales separately by type of item. So scam crates will be up and dlc sales will be stagnant. This then causes ZoS to think more people want scam crates and not payable dlc. Creating in the long term what is less focus on dlc and more on cosmetic items.

Dracindo

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

They could give us a naked skin.

Indeed. It's an 18+ game after all.

DjMuscleboy02

Dracindo wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

What? Absolutely, those who are skilled enough at the gameplay should "deserve" a mount over someone who can just throw a credit card at it. It'd be awesome if there was dropped mounts from trials, can you even imagine what kind of an incentive that would be for people to run them? Adding something like the dromathra senche to the Rakkhat drop table would be huge. Maybe a cool Welwa mount for VHR, a storm atro mount (if that could even be a thing) for AA, or a troll for VSO...

This reminded me of this post from another thread:

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I got ny 2 divines and 3 gold VO jewellery, no more raids for THIS stam sorc hahaha

How sad is that? He got his weapons now he's done, why even bother raiding right? There's nothing to keep people here after they get what they want. There's hardly money in it, no collectible drops past the Vmol skin/busts.

As for the example you provided, I'm not even sure what to say as that has no relevance to anything. Why would that ever be an option, it's not even closely related to getting a dropped mount.

coop500

Mounts are purely cosmetic, be glad that people don't have a real advantage over you for buying them.

NewBlacksmurf

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

Technically you and others are not paying to keep this game alive. You are paying for crowns or ESO plus. Whether you use the crowns or ESO is of no consequence, but the OP is identifying that the game would better survive if players were rewarded for accomplishments rather than Pay2get or what some argue is borderline pay2win

See, if the game locks these behind accomplishments, then players would be more likely to subscribe as the time it takes to obtain achievement based items is longer than monetary locked items.

I don't even play anymore so while i visit the forums, all these pay2get items leave me with over 20k remaining crowns and this is the second time I've stopped for over 5 months since PC release.

Crowns would better be removed and DLC should be sold outright as well as some of the cosmetics being accessible via the DLC bundles and not crowns. Its a different way of getting more monetary support that offers sustainability.

People often complain about lack of content or repeating content because there is no reward tied to it. Imagine if buying any of the existing DLC, the cosmetic crown store items were only found by doing that content and either completing quest lines, unique achievements as well as some RNG based drops, most of us who still like the game itself would be around and less focused on the crown store uproar and more focused on cultivating groups and guilds for treasure finding adventures daily, weekly and monthly in addition to DLC additions.

Also these would all be BoE which is another thing ppl want for economy purposes.

For example, if in Morrowind, the March - June crown store items were in the DLC vs the crown store.

If Dec - Feb housing items were in DLC vs the crown store
If 2016 crown store items were in Dark Brotherhood, TG, etc and not in the crown store, players many of whom have stopped for a while, would be around thus leading to more subs.
If the crown crates were removed entirely and only under anniversary events and annual achievements. This set up causes player to sub, buy and stay around which long terms creates profit and more potential customers vs any get it now offer that is only accessible via a log-in. How dumb is it that anyone who has issues logging in (thus all the maintenance this year) or who pauses for a while, cant spend any money on the game. Thats not a solid model for longevity.

Of the 5 guilds I was a part of, each has cycles through 20 to 250 players in 90 days. Because I'm now on Xbox One, i can see in the club who just flat out stopped playing so its not that they've changed guilds, they just quit and that has a greater impact

Crown store is the problem and not doing what many argue it does and ppl typically only buy many crowns during sales unless they subscribe so....logically just offer DLC instead vs any sale of crowns.

waterfairy

Tylos001 wrote: »

I want a Vet Trials mount that I can sit in Mournhold on!!

Don't be that guy...sitting around on your fancy mount by traders makes you look stupid and makes me wanna throw poo at you

coop500

P2W? Plese, that term does not belong in this game. Nothing a person can buy in this game will make them better then a guy or girl who spends hours learning and playing the game.

The minute money beats hours, then it becomes pay to win, but we are talking about cosmetic fancy mounts and costumes, that is not P2W.

Before someone screams warden, that person who buys warden still needs to learn how to play that class. Sorcs are OP but I met plenty of crappy sorcs who did not know how to play their class, so time and learning still beats money here.

zaria

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

What? Absolutely, those who are skilled enough at the gameplay should "deserve" a mount over someone who can just throw a credit card at it. It'd be awesome if there was dropped mounts from trials, can you even imagine what kind of an incentive that would be for people to run them? Adding something like the dromathra senche to the Rakkhat drop table would be huge. Maybe a cool Welwa mount for VHR, a storm atro mount (if that could even be a thing) for AA, or a troll for VSO...

This reminded me of this post from another thread:

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I got ny 2 divines and 3 gold VO jewellery, no more raids for THIS stam sorc hahaha

How sad is that? He got his weapons now he's done, why even bother raiding right? There's nothing to keep people here after they get what they want. There's hardly money in it, no collectible drops past the Vmol skin/busts.

As for the example you provided, I'm not even sure what to say as that has no relevance to anything. Why would that ever be an option, it's not even closely related to getting a dropped mount.

This, increase the drop rate for weapons, keep the mount drop rate low, as low as specified sharpened weapons, its just an cool thing after all so no need to make it easy to get, and its just an reskin so fast to make.

KimoBitz

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

yes

BigBragg

Three hundred pounds mount? Is that a horse on a diet, or just a beaten, dead horse...

Cpt_Teemo

ESO also needs a centralized market imo, atleast meet 1/2 way between a server wide AH to like a centralized marketer system that pulls all info from all the guilds in the area to those marketers so you don't need to waste time going to each of the vendors and remove the 100 item cap search imo.

Sigtric

I think mounts as achievement rewards is a good thing. I also think mounts are exactly the right kind of thing to put in a cash shop.

flguy147ub17_ESO

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

Then lets put moondancer staves on the crown store too which will make ZOS a lot of money too. You think you deserve a moondancer staff because you finished a trial? People care about different things in MMOs, i wish you could get mounts and items by actually PLAYING the game, i know that is a weird concept for people to understand. There are 1000s of players who care more about collecting mounts in game than some best in slot gear.

RT_Frank

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

Wow, you just don't understand how video game businesses work do you? Or any business for that matter. Literally almost every game currently has some form of cosmetic pay walls to cover the huge costs making games are nowadays. Look at overwatch and destiny with their cosmetics so why should ESO be any different?

True, DLC and eso plus cover a lot of the cost, but the thing here is that they are OPTIONAL. ESO doesn't do the same crap WoW does so that players only need the base game to play whenever they want AND still have max level gear. While this is all well and good, this forces ZOS to implement other areas of revenue considering the majority of its playerbase don't have all the DLC and sub every month. Fortunately, unlike Neverwinter these other areas of revenue do not affect gameplay or the game's economy.

Be grateful that your *** horse can have maxed stats, that you can have end game gear, and you are freed from a required sub all in just a less than $20 game.

Aliyavana

Dracindo wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

People should be rewarded for taking time to defeat the most difficult of content. It takes more time investment than spending 20 dollars in a mount

CavalryPK

I support this suggestion.

Cpt_Teemo

aliyavana wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

People should be rewarded for taking time to defeat the most difficult of content. It takes more time investment than spending 20 dollars in a mount

Then again you have exploiters that claim they beat it, doh.

Loves_guars

Yes, I think I made a thread too, asking for cosmetic rewards. It would be a great motivation to play for many.

KochDerDamonen

I think they would sooner get more aggresive with the crown store and let the game croak, than to go back to a subscription model.

And let's not kid ourselves, achievment-based cosmetics and optional-subscription are only ever going to flirt with eachother occasionally.

Queo

... YOU DONT NEED "SPECIAL" MOUNTS OR COSTUMES OR HOUSES!!!

quit demanding them for free, go mow a yard to make a little cash to buy one -.-