ESO badly needs this!!

KimoBitz

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

Then lets put moondancer staves on the crown store too which will make ZOS a lot of money too. You think you deserve a moondancer staff because you finished a trial? People care about different things in MMOs, i wish you could get mounts and items by actually PLAYING the game, i know that is a weird concept for people to understand. There are 1000s of players who care more about collecting mounts in game than some best in slot gear.

nicely said bro

TalonKnight

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

Buying mounts in games is like buying emperor, its only "awesome" if you have earned in in game.

No offense to those that have bought mounts to support the game, but in other mmos like wow, if you are in town pimpin your bought with $ mount it looks kinda bad....

The people that really made you stop in town, and think "dang!" that mount looks awesome were the people that got the rare drop.

Kay1

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

So people spent tons of hours to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you pay real life money?

I got you, fixed

NewBlacksmurf

RT_Frank wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

Wow, you just don't understand how video game businesses work do you? Or any business for that matter. Literally almost every game currently has some form of cosmetic pay walls to cover the huge costs making games are nowadays. Look at overwatch and destiny with their cosmetics so why should ESO be any different?

True, DLC and eso plus cover a lot of the cost, but the thing here is that they are OPTIONAL. ESO doesn't do the same crap WoW does so that players only need the base game to play whenever they want AND still have max level gear. While this is all well and good, this forces ZOS to implement other areas of revenue considering the majority of its playerbase don't have all the DLC and sub every month. Fortunately, unlike Neverwinter these other areas of revenue do not affect gameplay or the game's economy.

Be grateful that your *** horse can have maxed stats, that you can have end game gear, and you are freed from a required sub all in just a less than $20 game.

I think you are sharing your opinion which lacks actual facts.

The bold statement in my opinion is of greater importance because if the content doesn't cover the companies cost, this also suggests that the content isn't of value to the customer.

See the company can price good content at a price point to cover development costs.
This applies not only to DLC but lets incorporate ESO Plus...cause they're trying to establish value with crowns but its working backwards as the crown currency continues to loose its value each month as seen based on crown crates and crown store items.Real money works differently as its based on real world economies so, honestly, their model should rely on the ever changing world rather than creating a digital currency where they're heading towards their own great depression....sad but true in terms of crown value.

JiKama

This one wants a spooder mount from Selenes Web. Pssssst ZOS... You know where to find this one. His collection is lacking a spider mount. Ty in advance

Daemons_Bane

aliyavana wrote: »

People should be rewarded for taking time to defeat the most difficult of content. It takes more time investment than spending 20 dollars in a mount

Then again.. I would assume that actually earning those 20 bucks takes more than sitting on your ass playing a game? Jobs > games

KimoBitz

TalonKnight wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

Buying mounts in games is like buying emperor, its only "awesome" if you have earned in in game.

No offense to those that have bought mounts to support the game, but in other mmos like wow, if you are in town pimpin your bought with $ mount it looks kinda bad....

The people that really made you stop in town, and think "dang!" that mount looks awesome were the people that got the rare drop.

agreed

Gargath

When I wanted to obtain mounts in game other than the horses, I just subbed for few months and bought myself a guar, bear and lion for the subscriber's "free" crowns. No need to ask for special treatment, just sub and buy from crowns you will be given in return.

MehrunesFlagon

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

People should be rewarded for taking time to defeat the most difficult of content. It takes more time investment than spending 20 dollars in a mount

Then again.. I would assume that actually earning those 20 bucks takes more than sitting on your ass playing a game? Jobs > games

Looks like somebody doesn't know that most difficult content takes much more than 3 hours to clear.

Daemons_Bane

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

People should be rewarded for taking time to defeat the most difficult of content. It takes more time investment than spending 20 dollars in a mount

Then again.. I would assume that actually earning those 20 bucks takes more than sitting on your ass playing a game? Jobs > games

Looks like somebody doesn't know that most difficult content takes much more than 3 hours to clear.

That's still just 3 hours, sitting on your ass.. That's not work in any way, shape, or form

KimoBitz

We get costumes and and hats as drops from events and special quests, why can't mounts be a part of this too !?

Galwylin

Tylos001 wrote: »

Zenimax please stop locking content behind pay walls! Since beta I have been wanting some sort of system that allows you to obtain mounts in game other than the horses! I believe a system similar to WOW would work and compliment ESO very nicely! I mean screw the £300 mounts, I want a Vet Trials mount that I can sit in Mournhold on!! Whats everyones thoughts?

I think the Crown Store should work like housing. Either buy and furnish within game or buy with crowns. Same with the mounts. Either or. Not only found here (unless that within game, of course).

acw37162

One of the first rules of business;

If you have a steady reliable revenue stream don't eff it up.

ParaNostram

There are special rewards for the trials though... Special skins... So like... Okay?

Bobby_V_Rockit

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

It's either I want that mount because it's beast or Matt Frior deserves the latest ZR1 fully speccd. The day we acknowledge we have to buy cosmetics to prop the game up is the day we walk away. Development such as dlc should cover the cost and future profits and subs carry the game.

I do

jcasini222ub17_ESO

This thread has blown my mind. I started MMOs, sheesh, 17 years ago now. Turning 30 this year!! Woo woo.

This thread has left me speechless. I honestly can say I no longer recognize the general MMO community I was first welcomed into all those years ago.

I'm gonna go grind for draugr hulk and vipers now to make myself feel a bit better and hopefully collect the brain matter oozing from my cranium.

iord_stryker

I think having a few unlockable mounts would be cool. In the same way you can unlock costumes and such through getting certain achievements. Maybe as an unlock from undaunted mages or fighrs guild

KimoBitz

ParaNostram wrote: »

There are special rewards for the trials though... Special skins... So like... Okay?

exactly, and we can get pet rewards from certain accomplishments and also costumes and hats from special events

TheShadowScout

Tylos001 wrote: »

Zenimax please stop locking content behind pay walls! Since beta I have been wanting some sort of system that allows you to obtain mounts in game other than the horses! I believe a system similar to WOW would work and compliment ESO very nicely! I mean screw the £300 mounts, I want a Vet Trials mount that I can sit in Mournhold on!! Whats everyones thoughts?

My thoughts... are that this particular ship has sailed and sunk a long time ago.

Yeah, had the game stayed subscription powered... things would be different, and that sort of thing would likely be how things would have been in ESO.

But it didn't stay subscription-game-way, and thus things are different.

And thus expect to see a lot in the crown store, and little of that sort in-game. Since they need the crown store to show a profit to the suits in charge, so those won't pull the plug and sell off the servers or something.

As such, I may not like it much, but I accept it. At least the game hasn't gone PtW, adding weapons better then you can play for into the crown store... the actual game effect goodies you still gotta game for. (There is pay-to-lose though, if you like brooms and buckets...)
And lucky us, titles are still tied to actually achieving something difficult.

KochDerDamonen

jcasini222ub17_ESO wrote: »

This thread has blown my mind. I started MMOs, sheesh, 17 years ago now. Turning 30 this year!! Woo woo.

This thread has left me speechless. I honestly can say I no longer recognize the general MMO community I was first welcomed into all those years ago.

I'm gonna go grind for draugr hulk and vipers now to make myself feel a bit better and hopefully collect the brain matter oozing from my cranium.

@jcasini222ub17_ESO That old MMO community you walked into didn't know so well the path a B2P/F2P game treads. Many of us out here are not happy about the way it is, just realistic. Realistic and sad for what's to come

KerinKor

Tylos001 wrote: »

Zenimax please stop locking content behind pay walls!

The ENTIRE GAME is 'locked behind a paywall' if you stop to think about it for 5 seconds.

alexkdd99

Tylos001 wrote: »

Zenimax please stop locking content behind pay walls! Since beta I have been wanting some sort of system that allows you to obtain mounts in game other than the horses! I believe a system similar to WOW would work and compliment ESO very nicely! I mean screw the £300 mounts, I want a Vet Trials mount that I can sit in Mournhold on!! Whats everyones thoughts?

What mount is 300? Maybe you have seen mounts I haven't? Or you just pulled that number out of nowhere.

0 mounts have been sold for. £ 300. If you are attempting to say crown crate mounts cost £300 you are wrong. For starters you can't just buy any of the mounts in the crates so they are not for sale for any amount of money, so therefore no mounts are £300. Why make stuff up?

Lavennin

Quest mount, yes.
Vet trial mount, no.

I have the feeling that ZOS never intended for ESO to be a game about hardcore PVE / competitive leaderboard racing sort of gameplay. So you get drops from trials that help you do better in trials, but they are somewhat irrelevant to players not interested in the content.

Mounts however are relevant to everyone, and others may feel pressured to complete content they don't enjoy, and end up hating the game. I for one am pretty done with the whole raid thing in MMOs, and glad it's largely kept separate from the rest of the game. Adding mounts however will change that.

fred.thomsonb16_ESO

I just want a guar, nothing fancy, just a plain f***ing guar. Please faction mounts, it doesn't fit the lore for every race to be riding horses.

KimoBitz

fred.thomsonb16_ESO wrote: »

I just want a guar, nothing fancy, just a plain f***ing guar. Please faction mounts, it doesn't fit the lore for every race to be riding horses.

agreed

rynth

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

What? Absolutely, those who are skilled enough at the gameplay should "deserve" a mount over someone who can just throw a credit card at it. It'd be awesome if there was dropped mounts from trials, can you even imagine what kind of an incentive that would be for people to run them? Adding something like the dromathra senche to the Rakkhat drop table would be huge. Maybe a cool Welwa mount for VHR, a storm atro mount (if that could even be a thing) for AA, or a troll for VSO...

This reminded me of this post from another thread:

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I got ny 2 divines and 3 gold VO jewellery, no more raids for THIS stam sorc hahaha

How sad is that? He got his weapons now he's done, why even bother raiding right? There's nothing to keep people here after they get what they want. There's hardly money in it, no collectible drops past the Vmol skin/busts.

As for the example you provided, I'm not even sure what to say as that has no relevance to anything. Why would that ever be an option, it's not even closely related to getting a dropped mount.

lol it'd be same for mounts duh I completed this event/trial/vet dungeon/etc. etc. got my mount don't need do that again, how sad would that be?????

I'm sorry but it's not that hard to get some crowns in the store, recycle, save up money, don't go out eat as much, etc. its not really that expensive if you actually want something in the store. This game basically is run by subs and crown store sales and to a lesser degree game sales. But in the ends its crown sales and subs that I would say are the majority of monthly money earnings.

and there are several different outfits, an assistant, and some other things that you can obtain in game (although I believe other then cp outfits you need DLC for) not to mention some cool costumes you can get just for doing quests. Although yes I know its not mounts, they still offer you several different types of horses you can purchase in the game that are cool.

KimoBitz

rynth wrote: »

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Dracindo wrote: »

So people pay tons of money to keep this game alive and you think you deserve an awesome mount like them, just because you've finished a Trial?

I honestly don't think anyone buys a mount thinking..

I'm supporting the longevity of eso.

Surely nobody really thinks that. But still, they paid actual money for it, and it supports the game and it's developers.
The thing is, someone who supports the game by sending them money (for whatever personal reason one may have) has more right of an awesome mount, rather than someone who just plays the game.

Over exagerated example of what this topic tries to accomplish:
I killed this world boss, I should get 10 crowns for this, not these casual rewards I always get.

What? Absolutely, those who are skilled enough at the gameplay should "deserve" a mount over someone who can just throw a credit card at it. It'd be awesome if there was dropped mounts from trials, can you even imagine what kind of an incentive that would be for people to run them? Adding something like the dromathra senche to the Rakkhat drop table would be huge. Maybe a cool Welwa mount for VHR, a storm atro mount (if that could even be a thing) for AA, or a troll for VSO...

This reminded me of this post from another thread:

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

I got ny 2 divines and 3 gold VO jewellery, no more raids for THIS stam sorc hahaha

How sad is that? He got his weapons now he's done, why even bother raiding right? There's nothing to keep people here after they get what they want. There's hardly money in it, no collectible drops past the Vmol skin/busts.

As for the example you provided, I'm not even sure what to say as that has no relevance to anything. Why would that ever be an option, it's not even closely related to getting a dropped mount.

lol it'd be same for mounts duh I completed this event/trial/vet dungeon/etc. etc. got my mount don't need do that again, how sad would that be?????

I'm sorry but it's not that hard to get some crowns in the store, recycle, save up money, don't go out eat as much, etc. its not really that expensive if you actually want something in the store. This game basically is run by subs and crown store sales and to a lesser degree game sales. But in the ends its crown sales and subs that I would say are the majority of monthly money earnings.

and there are several different outfits, an assistant, and some other things that you can obtain in game (although I believe other then cp outfits you need DLC for) not to mention some cool costumes you can get just for doing quests. Although yes I know its not mounts, they still offer you several different types of horses you can purchase in the game that are cool.

do not agree