Re: Sorc Shields
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »
I mean....why wouldn't you use a Restro Staff as a Sorc?.......I'm talking about PvP of course...I understand you can get by without it in PVE but you honestly should always be running a Restro Staff
Kinda sad ain't it?
Limited Options. Etc
You said it.
Pirate's has a much longer uptime even at 5%, the resto ult lasts for 6 seconds and like I said, keeps you from using an offensive ultimate. When you got targets dodging/missing/rolling/stunning you etc it's not really a solid arguing point you got.
I mean, Restro ult is pretty much an offensive Ult, as it increases your damage as well....and yes Pirates has a much longer uptime then Restro Ult, but it has an actual disadvantage even if its *** poor...
Both are clearly overpowered...But it all comes back to the fact that Major Protection shouldn't work on Shields.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »
Sorcs would just switch to Restro Ult instead if Pirates was nerfed...So nerfing Pirates won't do it
Simply nerf Protection to not work on Shields.
Simple Fix
Light of Champion has the same duration as a single shield stack rotation. Pirate Skeleton has consistent uptime. There's a big difference between the two.
EDIT: I'm against your proposition because I believe shields should recieve major protection from balanced sources. Pirate Skeleton in it's own right is overperforming, and allows more then just mag sorcs to have consistent ease of tankyness. Major Protection buff should not be coming from a set piece.
@Xsorus
apple and oranges. I use resto ult and it comes at a cost.....not using other ults (eye of storm, meteor etc). The bone pirate rabbits dont have that drawback.
Pirates doesn't give you a bloody massive damage boost and a heal like Restro Ult either..
Resto ult needs a nerf too.
Templars, DKs, and NBs all have access to pirate skeleton and resto ult. Nerf the overpowering mechanics, not the sorc;s core and singular only defense mechanic.
Templars/Dks/NBs don't all have Hardened Ward...Nor does it take into account Stamina Builds, and everyone of them ate a nerf this patch.....
None of which has to do with pirate skeleton and resto ult being overpowered.
I mean...It kind of does... Pirates amplifies how powerful Hardened Ward is..and I'm not for HW being nerfed flat out.
I think Major Protection flat out shouldn't work on Shields...https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭Malamar1229 wrote: »
I mean....why wouldn't you use a Restro Staff as a Sorc?.......I'm talking about PvP of course...I understand you can get by without it in PVE but you honestly should always be running a Restro Staff
Kinda sad ain't it?
Limited Options. Etc
You said it.
Pirate's has a much longer uptime even at 5%, the resto ult lasts for 6 seconds and like I said, keeps you from using an offensive ultimate. When you got targets dodging/missing/rolling/stunning you etc it's not really a solid arguing point you got.
I mean, Restro ult is pretty much an offensive Ult, as it increases your damage as well....and yes Pirates has a much longer uptime then Restro Ult, but it has an actual disadvantage even if its *** poor...
Both are clearly overpowered...But it all comes back to the fact that Major Protection shouldn't work on Shields.
No one here is arguing that MP SHOULD work with shields...0 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »Malamar1229 wrote: »
I mean....why wouldn't you use a Restro Staff as a Sorc?.......I'm talking about PvP of course...I understand you can get by without it in PVE but you honestly should always be running a Restro Staff
Kinda sad ain't it?
Limited Options. Etc
You said it.
Pirate's has a much longer uptime even at 5%, the resto ult lasts for 6 seconds and like I said, keeps you from using an offensive ultimate. When you got targets dodging/missing/rolling/stunning you etc it's not really a solid arguing point you got.
I mean, Restro ult is pretty much an offensive Ult, as it increases your damage as well....and yes Pirates has a much longer uptime then Restro Ult, but it has an actual disadvantage even if its *** poor...
Both are clearly overpowered...But it all comes back to the fact that Major Protection shouldn't work on Shields.
No one here is arguing that MP SHOULD work with shields...
I mean...Lord_Hev is...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
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Sorcs would just switch to Restro Ult instead if Pirates was nerfed...So nerfing Pirates won't do it
Simply nerf Protection to not work on Shields.
Simple Fix
Ah yes
You want CP mitigation to not work on shield. God, you are so full of hate and selfishness. It's sickening me to read
And if they were to use a resto ult, then they had no offensive ult and I think it's mostly unlikely to kill many opponents without an offensive ult.
I wouldn't mind pirate itself not working on shields, or just changing how it works.I don't know anyone besides wanna-be good sorcs who use this set.
Ummm, I don't think i ever said anything about CP mitigation.
I said Major Protection shouldn't work on Shields.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Lord_Hev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Malamar1229 wrote: »
Sorcs would just switch to Restro Ult instead if Pirates was nerfed...So nerfing Pirates won't do it
Simply nerf Protection to not work on Shields.
Simple Fix
Light of Champion has the same duration as a single shield stack rotation. Pirate Skeleton has consistent uptime. There's a big difference between the two.
EDIT: I'm against your proposition because I believe shields should recieve major protection from balanced sources. Pirate Skeleton in it's own right is overperforming, and allows more then just mag sorcs to have consistent ease of tankyness. Major Protection buff should not be coming from a set piece.
@Xsorus
apple and oranges. I use resto ult and it comes at a cost.....not using other ults (eye of storm, meteor etc). The bone pirate rabbits dont have that drawback.
Pirates doesn't give you a bloody massive damage boost and a heal like Restro Ult either..
Resto ult needs a nerf too.
Templars, DKs, and NBs all have access to pirate skeleton and resto ult. Nerf the overpowering mechanics, not the sorc;s core and singular only defense mechanic.
Templars/Dks/NBs don't all have Hardened Ward...Nor does it take into account Stamina Builds, and everyone of them ate a nerf this patch.....
None of which has to do with pirate skeleton and resto ult being overpowered.
I mean...It kind of does... Pirates amplifies how powerful Hardened Ward is..and I'm not for HW being nerfed flat out.
I think Major Protection flat out shouldn't work on Shields...
Major protection should work on shields.
Pirate Skeleton should not be giving Major Protection. Major Protection should not be coming on a silver platter from a set piece.0 -
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Sorcs would just switch to Restro Ult instead if Pirates was nerfed...So nerfing Pirates won't do it
Simply nerf Protection to not work on Shields.
Simple Fix
Ah yes You want CP mitigation to not work on shield. God, you are so full of hate and selfishness. It's sickening me to read
And if they were to use a resto ult, then they had no offensive ult and I think it's mostly unlikely to kill many opponents without an offensive ult.
I wouldn't mind pirate itself not working on shields, or just changing how it works.I don't know anyone besides wanna-be good sorcs who use this set.
You're pretty much calling every good sorc apart from you and Derra (afaik every other good sorc in EU runs it) a "wanna-be good sorc." You might want to retract that statement.
Or I might not.Auri-El is my lord,
Trinimac is my shield,
Magnus is my mind.
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Lord_Hev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The only reason why this is a discussion is because of free major protection rewarded from pirate skeleton.
Nerf the -source- of an overpowered mechanic, not the mechanic itself. Major protection on shields was never a problem until Pirate Skeleton was introduced. Logical pragmatic UNBIASED course of action = ADDRESS PIRATE SKELETON SET.0 -
Ivan04✭✭✭✭Thank you OP, I needed to read this. I only wish I could find the report of someone who tried to pvp on PTS with a sorc.0