Trash players (Not clickb8)

Curtdogg47

It takes time to learn. And most new people want to show up and just be good. Its also frustrating to learn when most people are more powerful than you and know what they are doing.

The question each person has to ask is: If they are willing to commit the time and effort to learn and become better at this game.

I remember learning PVP and it sucked for a long time. But little by little I learned from playing, I learned from good people in my guild, and I learned from taking time to read online about different builds.

NightbladeMechanics

It actually really bothers me that npcs scream for healers all the time and don't cc break.

Pve trials are also 12 people balling up on a boss's ***. Zerging 101 right there.

EdmundTowers

Anazasi wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I have tried a good dozen of times to offer zerg guilds some free training sessions regarding builds, rotations, gear sets, group leading and such. Most of them denied the help saying that if they fail on the battlefield, they just bring more numbers next time. They don't care about increasing their effectiveness by getting better as a player. All they want is to overwhelm the enemy with absurd numbers. Again, can't wait for battlegrounds and fixed amounts of players.

Don't feel bad Frozen, I've had the same response from players. I've offered other guild groups the opportunity for there group leaders to run with us and see how we do things in hopes they might get better. But no one is ever interested. I think the majority of players are just here to consume the entertainment and don't care.

Hey, I've seen you guys, Dominion Knights, in action in Azuras Star. Is that offer still up, because I would take it. IOTE used to run multiple pug raids but have switched to guild only groups now, and we usually average 12 people. Me and my guildmates are always looking for ways to improve our group play.

Rickter

Its threads like these that fuel the PvP elite snobbish attitudes.

If i hear "small scale" and "1vX" one more time. .

you guys have a really entitled perception as to what ESO PvP is. Like its for you to decide that "It's the 12-14 man 600 cp stacked groups that irk me. Like, you've been playing since launch and you're still doing this?" - for real? Please tell me why this is apparently unacceptable? Please show me where in the ESO manual youre supposed to hit a mile marker that says "ok, if you want to be pro, you need to stop running with the 12-14 friends you have!"

I have zerged in the past and even though its left my voice dry and me mentally drained, I've had an enormous amount of fun and so has my guild. All the pvp i've participated in with my guild, Requiem since summer of 2015 has been 14 or less and lately (post 2017): 10 or less. I dont zerg now but if i had the desire id do it without a single shred of guilt or reservation.

why? because ESO pvp is what we make it. The PvP upper echelon elite cant dictate and its appalling you think even think you have the right to. Please show me an advertisement from prior to ESO vanilla launch promoting "small scale" or "1vX".

That was rhetorical because i know you cant. There is however, much media on large scale and epic siege.

the "small scale" and "1vX" crowd sounds like a bunch of Call of Duty, adrenaline junkie, youtube uploading, entitled, jaded brats crying because you cant make ESO PvP what you want it to be.

get over yourselves.

Grimlok_S

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

It actually really bothers me that npcs scream for healers all the time and don't cc break.

Pve trials are also 12 people balling up on a boss's ***. Zerging 101 right there.

Ugh. No one respects 1v1s anymore.

NightbladeMechanics

Grimlok_S wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

It actually really bothers me that npcs scream for healers all the time and don't cc break.

Pve trials are also 12 people balling up on a boss's ***. Zerging 101 right there.

Ugh. No one respects 1v1s anymore.

That's because armor sets and CP have carried people for so long.

Rickter wrote: »

Its threads like these that fuel the PvP elite snobbish attitudes.

If i hear "small scale" and "1vX" one more time. .

you guys have a really entitled perception as to what ESO PvP is. Like its for you to decide that "It's the 12-14 man 600 cp stacked groups that irk me. Like, you've been playing since launch and you're still doing this?" - for real? Please tell me why this is apparently unacceptable? Please show me where in the ESO manual youre supposed to hit a mile marker that says "ok, if you want to be pro, you need to stop running with the 12-14 friends you have!"

I have zerged in the past and even though its left my voice dry and me mentally drained, I've had an enormous amount of fun and so has my guild. All the pvp i've participated in with my guild, Requiem since summer of 2015 has been 14 or less and lately (post 2017): 10 or less. I dont zerg now but if i had the desire id do it without a single shred of guilt or reservation.

why? because ESO pvp is what we make it. The PvP upper echelon elite cant dictate and its appalling you think even think you have the right to. Please show me an advertisement from prior to ESO vanilla launch promoting "small scale" or "1vX".

That was rhetorical because i know you cant. There is however, much media on large scale and epic siege.

the "small scale" and "1vX" crowd sounds like a bunch of Call of Duty, adrenaline junkie, youtube uploading, entitled, jaded brats crying because you cant make ESO PvP what you want it to be.

get over yourselves.

Is "play as you want" a two-way street for you?

You do realize you've been the forums' loudest and most abrasive proponent for zerging and fighting with numbers for a good while now, don't you? The elitist, snobby, pro-outnumbering, anti-individual improvement crowd is more vocal these days than the elitist, snobby, anti-zerg, 1vX, small group crowd.

Both are obnoxious.

QuebraRegra

apparently the only thing you need in this game is to zerg and spam unbreakable roots due to the game glitch that has gone uncorrected since about launch.

#permarootspamzergtrain

malicia

So, I'm one of the filthy casuals, and I guess I'm one of your thrash players as well, then.

Firstly, what's up with the derogatory adjectives? Are you trying to promote the PvP community, or are you trying to chase everyone away?

Secondly, I really do play casually. On the rare occasion that I go to Cyrodil, my intention is purely to have some fun. I mainly PvE, and when I go into Cyrodil it is with PvE gear. My time is precious, and I can't justify modifying my build just for those rare occasion when I PvP. I'm also not going to learn a new skillset just to be able to compete in PvP.

So when I go to Cyrodil, I search for the action and go there. Mostly it ends with being part of a Zerg, sometimes it does not. I don't really care. If I get one shot in against a 1vsX master, I will enjoy my part of the kill, and I will respect you for your skill. But I will still let that arrow fly, and I will not regret doing so.

If I want to get better at PvP, I'll do what I'm doing with PvE: post on the forums, ask advice, choose options that fits my playing style, and work on them. I'm not great at PvE either, but I'm learning a bit each time I get on.

To put it in shorter form: I don't really care to get better at PvP. I'll join a Zerg on rare occasions to have some fun, but my focus is not PvP. I'm not going to spend the many moons needed to even think of competing 1v1 with you squeaky clean, super precious heroes. If that was to be a requirement, I'd simply never go any further than the Golden Vendor.

Rickter

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

You do realize you've been the forums' loudest and most abrasive proponent for zerging and fighting with numbers for a good while now, don't you? The elitist, snobby, pro-outnumbering, anti-individual improvement crowd is more vocal these days than the elitist, snobby, anti-zerg, 1vX, small group crowd.

Both are obnoxious.

except - im not the one coming o nthe forums and creating threads promoting zerging and using derogatory adjectives to do it.

you see about 3-5 "pvp is supposed to be 1vX" and "people who play in zergs are trash players" and "look at my new 1vX video that makes me look cool"

biiiig difference between me and them. but nice try.

CyrusArya

Watching some of these zergbads get tilted over nothing is pretty funny. Its like that one chick we all know who is always talking about how much she hates drama, but is like always the source of drama. lol.

Rickter

watching all these whiny 1vXers crying over the game they cant have is like that kid crying in the shopping cart because mom and dad wont buy them the toy they want

tonemd

Anazasi wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I have tried a good dozen of times to offer zerg guilds some free training sessions regarding builds, rotations, gear sets, group leading and such. Most of them denied the help saying that if they fail on the battlefield, they just bring more numbers next time. They don't care about increasing their effectiveness by getting better as a player. All they want is to overwhelm the enemy with absurd numbers. Again, can't wait for battlegrounds and fixed amounts of players.

Don't feel bad Frozen, I've had the same response from players. I've offered other guild groups the opportunity for there group leaders to run with us and see how we do things in hopes they might get better. But no one is ever interested. I think the majority of players are just here to consume the entertainment and don't care.

I have NEVER EVER seen anyone advertise "If you want to get better at 1v1, 1vX and small man type 'x' or 'noob' " or any other serious offer to teach a player or group of players how to get better. If instead you get on some guilds Teamspeak and tell them they suck or try to take over, OF COURSE you're going to be ignored.

I don't know who the big head kids are for DC in NA PC TF but they sure aren't offering to teach anything. The most I get in cyro is "WTF you running bone shield as a DPS, fookin NOOB" or some moronic whispered rant about being run down by a zerg by someone running around with Pact Militia.

NightbladeMechanics

tonemd wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I have tried a good dozen of times to offer zerg guilds some free training sessions regarding builds, rotations, gear sets, group leading and such. Most of them denied the help saying that if they fail on the battlefield, they just bring more numbers next time. They don't care about increasing their effectiveness by getting better as a player. All they want is to overwhelm the enemy with absurd numbers. Again, can't wait for battlegrounds and fixed amounts of players.

Don't feel bad Frozen, I've had the same response from players. I've offered other guild groups the opportunity for there group leaders to run with us and see how we do things in hopes they might get better. But no one is ever interested. I think the majority of players are just here to consume the entertainment and don't care.

I have NEVER EVER seen anyone advertise "If you want to get better at 1v1, 1vX and small man type 'x' or 'noob' " or any other serious offer to teach a player or group of players how to get better. If instead you get on some guilds Teamspeak and tell them they suck or try to take over, OF COURSE you're going to be ignored.

I don't know who the big head kids are for DC in NA PC TF but they sure aren't offering to teach anything. The most I get in cyro is "WTF you running bone shield as a DPS, fookin NOOB" or some moronic whispered rant about being run down by a zerg by someone running around with Pact Militia.

Well I'll tell you right off the bat that no serious solo or small group player will be doing any serious play, and therefore would be unable to teach, during prime time with even an inkling of lag.

Also, fishing through LFGs to find people with potential is a huge waste of time. Take the initiative, design your build to sustain and survive independently, adding as much damage as you can muster after that, and then go play on the other side of the map far from your faction zergs, where the good small scalers spend their time.

You mentioned DC on NA/PC. I can't tell you how many pugs with potential I've picked up like that who ended up becoming loyal guildies and solid players. You have to take those first steps to get noticed, but trust me, small scalers who want to run top notch groups understand that we all start in the same place and are watching everyone around them for potential.

RMerlin

frozywozy wrote: »

if they fail on the battlefield, they just bring more numbers next time

Aaahhh, the Zapp Brannigan tactic! Sending waves after waves of our men, until ultimate victory!