Hybrid Nightblade DOT Build & Commentary

Rickter

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Just want to say I was watching your stream last night when you poked me and my friend in Temple District with this build. I attacked you when I saw you running at us, with you attacking back, but I did not continue attacking when you turned and ran off. I went back and watched the recording. My friend was the only person on your death recap, as I hadn't pursued you across that clearing.

I don't appreciate you spending all that time following the fight telling your stream that I play dirty and what an *** I am (your words) when you ran at us first and ended up dying to my sorc friend and not me.

thats Ebonheart Templar's M.O. - hes a dirty **** talker when things dont go his way. but hey, hes so cool because of his builds!

That is rude to say.

i guess the truth hurts sometimes then. Ive watched him call my team mates a b***h and display poor sportsmanship on his streams. So im sorry if im not kissing his feet. especially since you publicly called him out on the forums. but i guess its ok when you do it since youre pvp royalty.

I am sorry to hear that, but what I said here is very different from what you said here. I called him out without insulting him and gave him a chance to apologize and mend the situation, which he did, albeit in private. I don't know Jack or his usual personality or past interactions with your friends, but I didn't come to this thread to derail it into personal insults. If you choose to do so, don't use my post as justification.

but you keep bumping the thread. cool.

Waylander

Nice build jack, very out of the box.

Has anyone tested if the 300 dmg weapon buff from a masters bow effects your spell damage too with a pelinals build?

NightbladeMechanics

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Just want to say I was watching your stream last night when you poked me and my friend in Temple District with this build. I attacked you when I saw you running at us, with you attacking back, but I did not continue attacking when you turned and ran off. I went back and watched the recording. My friend was the only person on your death recap, as I hadn't pursued you across that clearing.

I don't appreciate you spending all that time following the fight telling your stream that I play dirty and what an *** I am (your words) when you ran at us first and ended up dying to my sorc friend and not me.

thats Ebonheart Templar's M.O. - hes a dirty **** talker when things dont go his way. but hey, hes so cool because of his builds!

That is rude to say.

i guess the truth hurts sometimes then. Ive watched him call my team mates a b***h and display poor sportsmanship on his streams. So im sorry if im not kissing his feet. especially since you publicly called him out on the forums. but i guess its ok when you do it since youre pvp royalty.

I am sorry to hear that, but what I said here is very different from what you said here. I called him out without insulting him and gave him a chance to apologize and mend the situation, which he did, albeit in private. I don't know Jack or his usual personality or past interactions with your friends, but I didn't come to this thread to derail it into personal insults. If you choose to do so, don't use my post as justification.

but you keep bumping the thread. cool.

I was discussing the build and Sheer Venom's interactions with Steel Tornado until you tried to dig the drama up again. Now you're still digging.

Why do people like drama so much?

Minno

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Rickter wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Just want to say I was watching your stream last night when you poked me and my friend in Temple District with this build. I attacked you when I saw you running at us, with you attacking back, but I did not continue attacking when you turned and ran off. I went back and watched the recording. My friend was the only person on your death recap, as I hadn't pursued you across that clearing.

I don't appreciate you spending all that time following the fight telling your stream that I play dirty and what an *** I am (your words) when you ran at us first and ended up dying to my sorc friend and not me.

thats Ebonheart Templar's M.O. - hes a dirty **** talker when things dont go his way. but hey, hes so cool because of his builds!

That is rude to say.

i guess the truth hurts sometimes then. Ive watched him call my team mates a b***h and display poor sportsmanship on his streams. So im sorry if im not kissing his feet. especially since you publicly called him out on the forums. but i guess its ok when you do it since youre pvp royalty.

I am sorry to hear that, but what I said here is very different from what you said here. I called him out without insulting him and gave him a chance to apologize and mend the situation, which he did, albeit in private. I don't know Jack or his usual personality or past interactions with your friends, but I didn't come to this thread to derail it into personal insults. If you choose to do so, don't use my post as justification.

but you keep bumping the thread. cool.

I was discussing the build and Sheer Venom's interactions with Steel Tornado until you tried to dig the drama up again. Now you're still digging.

Why do people like drama so much?

Sounds like your social-Shuffle didn't proc lol.

Waylander wrote: »

Nice build jack, very out of the box.

Has anyone tested if the 300 dmg weapon buff from a masters bow effects your spell damage too with a pelinals build?

Idk the answer, but it sounds like he is using pelinals on the staff bar. So for this build, he is using other sources of weapon dmg to stack his SD higher for the staff dot heavy attack.

From my own build, the dmg of the weapon directly adds into my Spell dmg number. So if I went from purple to yellow staff, my spell dmg would permanently go up if I had that staff equipped.

So I guess using a master bow would only increase the weapon dmg as long as you have it equipped. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

IxSTALKERxI

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

JackDaniell wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

After watching the video, I experimented with trying to make my Templar a hybrid. Thank you for the part of the video explaining your CP setup and the stats for hybrid based builds! That bit helped me greatly to rethink what it means to be a magplar.

To continue the discussion, have you experimented not using perlinials set? If so what are some viable alternates for hybrids?

I'd probably assume there are no viable alternative sets, but I figured I'd ask.

Due to pelinals giving me around 1400 spell damage I and doubtful you could stack your stats as high any other way. A 5 peice air, 4 imperial physique and 1 kena would be a close option with great regen but your still better off mixing another set with pelinals.

Alternative builds would also have to compensate for losing the Sheer Venom dot. That set is very powerful, and it's only just coming into public knowledge. I personally think the Sheer bow and Pelinal's staff split with all your magicka stuff on the Pelinal's staff bar is clever.

Deltia made a stamsorc build way back when with sheer venom when IC came out. Haven't seen much of it since.

Really now? That's cool. The IC dungeon sets were incredibly hard to farm back then, and didn't come in jewelry, weapons, or impen. They only really became feasible in PvP after those became available, but people are slowly realizing just how strong some of them are. Jack here is one of the few ahead of the curve.

Pretty sure sheer venom only applies to 1 target every 6 seconds with tornado doesn't it? As someone who spams a lot of AoE I think that was one of the first things I tested when IC hit PTS.

NightbladeMechanics

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

The_Duke wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

JackDaniell wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

After watching the video, I experimented with trying to make my Templar a hybrid. Thank you for the part of the video explaining your CP setup and the stats for hybrid based builds! That bit helped me greatly to rethink what it means to be a magplar.

To continue the discussion, have you experimented not using perlinials set? If so what are some viable alternates for hybrids?

I'd probably assume there are no viable alternative sets, but I figured I'd ask.

Due to pelinals giving me around 1400 spell damage I and doubtful you could stack your stats as high any other way. A 5 peice air, 4 imperial physique and 1 kena would be a close option with great regen but your still better off mixing another set with pelinals.

Alternative builds would also have to compensate for losing the Sheer Venom dot. That set is very powerful, and it's only just coming into public knowledge. I personally think the Sheer bow and Pelinal's staff split with all your magicka stuff on the Pelinal's staff bar is clever.

Deltia made a stamsorc build way back when with sheer venom when IC came out. Haven't seen much of it since.

Really now? That's cool. The IC dungeon sets were incredibly hard to farm back then, and didn't come in jewelry, weapons, or impen. They only really became feasible in PvP after those became available, but people are slowly realizing just how strong some of them are. Jack here is one of the few ahead of the curve.

Pretty sure sheer venom only applies to 1 target every 6 seconds with tornado doesn't it? As someone who spams a lot of AoE I think that was one of the first things I tested when IC hit PTS.

That is what I've been told. I've not tested it myself, though, so I cannot confirm. Mechanical consistency would be one target at a time, but executing another target would move the dot to them.

Still a strong as hell dot single target.

duuude9192b14_ESO

Well done @JackDaniell

Erock25

I wanted to do a setup that had sheer venom 5 piece only on my bow back bar and was told that the sheer venom poison dmg would go away when swapping back to my main bar even if poison injection was still running. Anyone confirm or deny this? My thought was that since I cast the execute (poison inject) with the five piece sheer venom active that it would persist.

Minno

Erock25 wrote: »

I wanted to do a setup that had sheer venom 5 piece only on my bow back bar and was told that the sheer venom poison dmg would go away when swapping back to my main bar even if poison injection was still running. Anyone confirm or deny this? My thought was that since I cast the execute (poison inject) with the five piece sheer venom active that it would persist.

Even if it doesn't, that's how it should act. This would open up the bow's potential for build diversity to add it as a cool assassin style "dart" and wait build(since most of cyro uses it either as an escape mechanic or direct snipe build.)