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Mag DK PvP Builds and Discussion
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I'm thinking I'm gonna try 2 Skoria 5 Burning Spellweave and 5 Shacklebreaker. With that set up I'm gonna probably drop the tri stat food and will still probably sit at about 16k stam which is exactly where I want to be. I can also run more damage with that set up since I'll have more sustain from changing the food to Witch Mothers. Since I'll be dropping Seducer I'll run a reduce cost glyph on jewelry to make up for the cost reduction. Let me know what you guys think or some suggestions.0 -
SnowTheMadDog✭✭✭U dont need the dmg from BSW. U'll lack sustain trust me. And the biggest stam pool the better. Go for 5 shackle 5 desert rose/lich/syrabane (proc regen is better on dk then classic regen) . With ur setup u will struggle against other DK and templars.Appolÿon - mDK
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freid.simonb16_ESO wrote: »U dont need the dmg from BSW. U'll lack sustain trust me. And the biggest stam pool the better. Go for 5 shackle 5 desert rose/lich/syrabane (proc regen is better on dk then classic regen) . With ur setup u will struggle against other DK and templars.
I've been running 5 Seducer 5 BSW so far this patch and have almost no sustain issues. Trust me when I say running 2 sustain sets on a Mag DK is stupid. If I ever want to run a class with massive sustain and zero damage output I'll give your build a try.0 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭Destro/S&SH - 5 Sun/5 Wizards Riposte (Back Bar)/Blood Spawn/Mael Sharp Inferno
Really wana go destro/resto but cheap Sun sharp infernos are non-existant.Edited by Moglijuana on June 28, 2017 6:06PM0 -
SnowTheMadDog✭✭✭zero dmg output? ur dmg comes from ur rotation of constant dot and whip and debuff And droping seducer for shackle mean u dont have any regen whatsoever, and brew is not worth it over the stam given from tristat food. I can guarantee u that if u get caught against a dk runing 5 impreg/5 deser rose (or lich syrabane etc) or 5 shackle/5 desert...u dont stand a chance. Dk rely on sustain dmg, not burst (come on, u cant whip burst anyone except newbie nightblades) . Just watch or play against some of the top dks around (Belethorn for exemple), they have what....around 1500-1800 spell dmg and they still manage to be the top 1 dmg wise in BG, u know why? Coz they stay alive, have strong defensive and sustain setup, and constantly deal dmg, permablock and use their rotation wisely. I played a quick BG yesterday with Blobs , and with a setup where i sit to 1500 spellpower i was first in killscore / dmg with 1.1M dmg.
But go ahead mate, do what u think is good, it's only theorycrafting anyway
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freid.simonb16_ESO wrote: »zero dmg output? ur dmg comes from ur rotation of constant dot and whip and debuff And droping seducer for shackle mean u dont have any regen whatsoever, and brew is not worth it over the stam given from tristat food. I can guarantee u that if u get caught against a dk runing 5 impreg/5 deser rose (or lich syrabane etc) or 5 shackle/5 desert...u dont stand a chance. Dk rely on sustain dmg, not burst (come on, u cant whip burst anyone except newbie nightblades) . Just watch or play against some of the top dks around (Belethorn for exemple), they have what....around 1500-1800 spell dmg and they still manage to be the top 1 dmg wise in BG, u know why? Coz they stay alive, have strong defensive and sustain setup, and constantly deal dmg, permablock and use their rotation wisely. I played a quick BG yesterday with Blobs , and with a setup where i sit to 1500 spellpower i was first in killscore / dmg with 1.1M dmg.
But go ahead mate, do what u think is good, it's only theorycrafting anyway
See out sustaining your opponent and having fights that drag on forever is boring. I have done many different set ups on my DK and find 16k stam to be that sweet spot without sacrificing anything else. I feel I can drop Seducer pick up Shacklebreaker and switch foods and keep that same stamina pool and gain a bit extra damage without losing the sustainability of Seducer. You are right it is theorycrafting and as we speak I'm crafting my shacklebreaker to test this all out. I will certainly keep this thread updated.0 -
wrapped✭✭Varens legacy set has a 10% chance when u block to cause your next direct aoe dmg do an additional 3300 dmg. Direct aoe dmg on mag dk are leap, talons,engulfing flames, eruption, deep breath, meteor and maybe fragmented shield and other morph of fosilize...whats it called?...
Anyway... This set has no cooldown and when it procs u get 5 sec buff called Varens wall.
For example: Varens wall adds 3300 dmg to your Ferocious Leap which can be empowered with might if the guild or empowering chains. The dmg is insane.
Deep breath heals based on dmg done. Varens wall will cause the inhale part to hit aprox 4k per target which will heal you adequately. The more targets the better.
Burning talons will consume Varens wall buff as well and will hit for 8.5k crit dmg those enemies like unbuffed and unshielded sorcs and glass cannon stamblades. Normally dmg averages around 4k non crit. 5.5k crits.
I have not tested fragmented shield nor eruption but someone should! Eruption deals unblockable direct aoe dmg.
My setup is 5x desert rose 5 varens light sturdy and 2 pirate skelly. 2x spell dmg glyph. 1x reduce cost of magicka spells glyph.
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worsttankever✭✭✭Varens legacy set has a 10% chance when u block to cause your next direct aoe dmg do an additional 3300 dmg. Direct aoe dmg on mag dk are leap, talons,engulfing flames, eruption, deep breath, meteor and maybe fragmented shield and other morph of fosilize...whats it called?...
Anyway... This set has no cooldown and when it procs u get 5 sec buff called Varens wall.
Mind blown!!Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour.1 -
Trashs1✭✭✭oha that sounds interesting
did u do some testing with varens legacy?Dolche des Königs (DDK); EuPC, DC, Sotha Sil,0 -
SnowTheMadDog✭✭✭ah ok, tought we were talkin about non cp stuff ^^Appolÿon - mDK
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Sheey✭✭✭✭Shacklebreaker + Desert Rose + Valkyn
In CYRODIIL (WITHOUT BUFFS)
26,900 HP FRONTBAR / 28,600 HP BACKBAR
41,700 MP (3 TRI-STAT ENTCHANTMENTS)
18,300 STAMINA
- You are able to permanently holding block in 1v1 Situations and 1vX for a longer time as usual.
- 1x Magica Costreduction Glyph(fix)
- 1x Magica Recovery Glyph (fix)
-1x Costblockreduction for CP or 1x Magica Recovery for Non CP or 1x Spelldamage for Cp (1v1)
6-1 best Setup
5-2 second Best
5-1-1 3rd best
@Sheey @Sheyaa ingame for any advice using this build.
https://youtu.be/qaMI_dupvIg Edited by Sheey on June 29, 2017 11:29AM1 -
SnowTheMadDog✭✭✭How do u manage to get 41k magicka? i have the exact same setup but i'm far from that Oo
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Sheey✭✭✭✭Because I run everything in golden.
- All armor magica glyphs gold (incl. 3 tristat)
- Every Equipment Piece golden out.
- Inner Light Front Bar (Video)
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✭✭HereForMorale wrote: »I hear most people run Dark Elf on their mag dk. I ran a dark elf for a while there but I switched to high elf. I think high elf is a much better choice for DK. Yes you lose like 3% fire damage and about 1.5k stam and that fire resistance but you gain 9% recovery you get 10% max mag and you still get a buff to your flame damage up to 4%. High elf is just a far better choice imo.
How do you gap close?Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
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✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »Some other thoughts:
1. Valkyn, BS, and Groth are all really good monster sets for mDK. I think Slimecraw will slightly underperform.
2. "Standard" setups: Seducer + BSW, or Seducer + Rattle. Both have advantages. I favor the Rattle setup because I like the extra skill slot.
3. Setups which I plan to test: Seducer + Spinner, Rattle + Spinner.
4. Setups I would like to test but probably won't because F** RNG: Rattle + BSW.
5. Syrabane is amazing.
6. Can someone comment on 5LA mDK in the current meta?
5LA mDK is great
. I have a build set up below.
I know I say 6 impen. Forgot my infused helm lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X5tdKA7c5g
I'm considerin going LA and shields, but IDK how I'm gonna look with LA and a 2H sword XDSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique0 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »Some other thoughts:
1. Valkyn, BS, and Groth are all really good monster sets for mDK. I think Slimecraw will slightly underperform.
2. "Standard" setups: Seducer + BSW, or Seducer + Rattle. Both have advantages. I favor the Rattle setup because I like the extra skill slot.
3. Setups which I plan to test: Seducer + Spinner, Rattle + Spinner.
4. Setups I would like to test but probably won't because F** RNG: Rattle + BSW.
5. Syrabane is amazing.
6. Can someone comment on 5LA mDK in the current meta?
5LA mDK is great. I have a build set up below.
I know I say 6 impen. Forgot my infused helm lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X5tdKA7c5g
I'm considerin going LA and shields, but IDK how I'm gonna look with LA and a 2H sword XD
Light armor is so OP imo. I can out dmg any heavy armor wearing MDK by a mile and with Harness it gives me the protection (and resource return) from all their flame attacks. That build is a bit outdated though. It still works but you probably need 3 recovery glyphs or 2 recovery + reduced cost. I've since switched the BSW set to Riposte and now use a destro staff on front bar. It's been a blast!...you know, when ESO actually works correctly =/Edited by Moglijuana on June 30, 2017 7:08PM0 -
HereForMorale wrote: »I hear most people run Dark Elf on their mag dk. I ran a dark elf for a while there but I switched to high elf. I think high elf is a much better choice for DK. Yes you lose like 3% fire damage and about 1.5k stam and that fire resistance but you gain 9% recovery you get 10% max mag and you still get a buff to your flame damage up to 4%. High elf is just a far better choice imo.
How do you gap close?
What system do you play on?0 -
IxskullzxI✭✭✭✭I've been running 5 wizard reposted 5 trans and 2 skoria for battlegrounds. Loving this setup.#HowDoYouLikeYourDK?0
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So for the Morrowind patch I'm still running 5 Heavy 2 Light, Seducer (Sword and Shield and 3 Body pieces) and BSW (Jewelry and 2 body pieces). Obviously Sword and Shield on both bars and I have leaned more towards Skoria for even more damage. Blood Spawn is a very close second though. I have tons of damage a lot of people don't expect when they see a Mag DK bellowing towards them. My sustain is good and is getting better. I'm going to swap BSW for sun though soon and should be producing even more damage. Will keep you updated.0
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MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭Shacklebreaker + Desert Rose + Valkyn
In CYRODIIL (WITHOUT BUFFS)
26,900 HP FRONTBAR / 28,600 HP BACKBAR
41,700 MP (3 TRI-STAT ENTCHANTMENTS)
18,300 STAMINA
- You are able to permanently holding block in 1v1 Situations and 1vX for a longer time as usual.
- 1x Magica Costreduction Glyph(fix)
- 1x Magica Recovery Glyph (fix)
-1x Costblockreduction for CP or 1x Magica Recovery for Non CP or 1x Spelldamage for Cp (1v1)
6-1 best Setup
5-2 second Best
5-1-1 3rd best
@Sheey @Sheyaa ingame for any advice using this build.https://youtu.be/qaMI_dupvIg
Wouldn't BSW be better instead of shackle? 1400 spell damage unbuffed seems a bit low. I'm not trying to criticize but I'm wondering how that works out for you in small scale fights.0 -
SnowTheMadDog✭✭✭goin bsw means goin light armor...and dk doesn't need a lot of spell dmg to do dmg that's the first thing to understand when playing dk in pvp Appolÿon - mDK
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SnowTheMadDog wrote: »goin bsw means goin light armor...and dk doesn't need a lot of spell dmg to do dmg that's the first thing to understand when playing dk in pvp
You don't have to go light armor to run BSW. I run 5 Heavy 2 Light with Seducer and BSW. BSW Jewelry and then two body pieces. Also, running a DK build that is low spell damage and made to sustain and tank all day is boring. If I want to go into a 1v1 fight and have it last 15 minutes while me and the other guy try to out sustain each other, I'll go ahead and try out a dumb and boring sustain build.1 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭I still dont know how to regen magika if i get resource poisoned running SnB. Hopefully they see this and add some kind of heavy armor magika recovery boost, like replace the health recov. passive with %magika per heavy equip. Reason i say this is if your rockin a sustain set you probably cant kill anyone competent to top tier, not to mention Xv1.
Did have some fun running Kags/sun 1 Kena destro/resto. 1v1 fights are skillful and require actual back and forth timed attack and defence. Not gunna tell the entire build but Thief mundus and a Crit modifying ability make it hit hard.
Downside is its difficult to D up against the double NB gank the tryhards use constantly. Worth putting up with that for the fun 1v1 fights imo.
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