What do you count as a zerg?

Sythen88411

[Insert number here]

Caza99

Anything greater than a full group i.e 25 or more

Damianos

Hashtag_

24+


Chinese Army = 48+

josh.lackey_ESO

I think the definition of "zerg" as a noun is different than the definition of "zerg" as a verb. The definition of the verb zerg is different between the passive and active forms.

So 5 or 6 people would not be considered a "zerg" properly, nor could 6 people ever be "zerging". But if you are alone and 5 or 6 people move you over, you could say you were "zerged" down.

A second definition of the noun zerg is not necessarily related to the number of players, but instead referring to main group of faction pugs. If AD has Nikel and DC has Ash, and the AD push up to Ash keep, you might say "AD zerg at Ash" even if it's the middle of the night and sever pops are two bars and it's only 15 people.

The most common definition of zerg is "any group larger than the one I am currently in."

thankyourat

2 players

Etaniel

josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »

I think the definition of "zerg" as a noun is different than the definition of "zerg" as a verb. The definition of the verb zerg is different between the passive and active forms.

So 5 or 6 people would not be considered a "zerg" properly, nor could 6 people ever be "zerging". But if you are alone and 5 or 6 people move you over, you could say you were "zerged" down.

This ^

I would add that it is possible for a zerg to be zerged down, so just because you got zerged, doesn't mean you weren't zerging.

Imo 12+ is a zerg.

zuto40

Any group that kills me, any group I kill is full of pugs

BohnT

A zerg is any group of players that out numbers the own group size by a scale of 1:4 up to a number of 18 players. At this point any group is a zerg imo but that may differ as there are some solo players who run around with 30+

Tavore1138

I believe it's a number that is related to one's self perceived l33tness.

Thus if you perceive yourself as a top player that number becomes 'any number of players that managed to kill me'.

For 'small scale players' it tends to be 'one more than the group I am running with'.

For RvR guilds that consider themselves great a zerg is defined as 'the guild that just beat us somehow even though we all pressed eye of flame at the same time'

Basically it's all in the eye of the individual... if I had to give a number I'd say more than 24, but then if you are a 12 person group and you happen to hit 3 other 12 person groups they wouldn't see themselves as a zerg but you would... this makes my brain hurt...

Draxys

Everyone's got their own definition these days. It's essentially become a term to be used when an angry child can't stand not feeling superior to their competition, thus they lash out in anger and make attempted insults using the ambiguous term "zerg".

Jitterbug

Anything yellow is a zerg

Derra

Anything more than 3 normal groups (not large grps) - so 13+ ppl.

I consider any organized group zerging or blobbing as soon as their players have distinct tasks mainly consisting of using only few specific skills (i.e. healingspringsspammer, rapidbot, etc) while having a lot of passive buffs/toggels etc slotted to maximise efficiency.

NightbladeMechanics

The word is relative. Defining it by an arbitrary group size without context doesn't feel meaningful to me.

I consider a zerg any group larger than is necessary to achieve its objective.

A simpler definition which I use sometimes is any group outnumbering its opposition, but what it really comes down to in my opinion is using numbers to win a fight OR make it unwinnable by the other side, regardless of how many people are technically involved.

I feel like two players can zerg down one, just as 24 can zerg down 10.

kevlarto_ESO

thankyourat wrote: »

2 players

This ^^ To the solo player anything 2 or more is zerg, think is there is a difference in a large group playing with tactics and moving to me the zerg is the ball groups that just mindless spam the same meta builds over and over they can be anything for 10 to 100 they don't have to be grouped to be a zerg party just blob and move like a block of melting cheese. LOL

I think any size group that kills the a player or wipes their group is called a zerg LOL there are about as many opinions as what makes a zerg as there are players in the game.

ToRelax

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

2 players

To the solo player anything 2 or more is zerg, think is there is a difference in a large group playing with tactics and moving to me the zerg is the ball groups that just mindless spam the same meta builds over and over they can be anything for 10 to 100 they don't have to be grouped to be a zerg party just blob and move like a block of melting cheese. LOL

If 2 people are a zerg, does that mean I can wipe out entire zergs on my own?

DeadlyRecluse

Depends on server, time of day, and population balance.

In general, anything more than 24.

Alomar

I lol a little inside when people call such small numbers a zerg in ESO, as someone whose played 39 mmo's I normally conclude a zerg as 50+. Yet, due to ESO's zerg friendly mechanics (target cap mainly) I'd say it's 25+ in ESO.

IxSTALKERxI

25+ players in the same area, regardless of whether or not they are in the same group as each other.

Zerg vs Zerg fights can give some memorable moments though, like epic 50 vs 50 chaotic hour long keep defenses. As much as everyone hates getting killed by a zerg, without them cyrodiil would get boring fast.

Waseem

more than 24

Jamini

If I can't reasonably count/guess the number of players in the area with a glance, it's a zerg.

Normally that's around 20+ players.

Sigtric

You're all wrong

DHale

A Zerg is one more than you and your group. Seriously though, I got whispered last night.... nice Zerg I said we have nine people. You have exactly 16 players. The guy said we don't have 16 player in all caps. I said dude one of your teammates is streaming on twitch and there are 16 people. A few minutes later the guys off line. It's not so much the numbers it's the imaginary numbers people add to the oppositions group size.

Sigtric

DHale wrote: »

A Zerg is one more than you and your group. Seriously though, I got whispered last night.... nice Zerg I said we have nine people. You have exactly 16 players. The guy said we don't have 16 player in all caps. I said dude one of your teammates is streaming on twitch and there are 16 people. A few minutes later the guys off line. It's not so much the numbers it's the imaginary numbers people add to the oppositions group size.

This is really it.

It really boils down to: A zerg = however many beat you.

It's also dumb, considering Cyrodiil was designed for large scale (large armies) combat

CatchMeTrolling

It's relative.

Simply being outnumbered refers to getting zerged down & a large group of people also refers to a zerg even if it's 24 vs 24. Ironically a 24 man group fighting 200 wouldn't be considered a zerg.

It's like saying the only 24 people in a gated campaign is zerging when they're fighting hordes of players. Which I've actually seen pre no cp azuras star.

Earthewen

Zerg is a slang term for a group of low-level gamers who depend on overwhelming numbers to achieve victory, rather than relying on technique or strategy. The term is most often used in the context of online role-playing and strategy games, but it also applies to multiplayer first-person shooters.

Minno

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

It's relative.

Simply being outnumbered refers to getting zerged down & a large group of people also refers to a zerg even if it's 24 vs 24. Ironically a 24 man group fighting 200 wouldn't be considered a zerg.

It's like saying the only 24 people in a gated campaign is zerging when they're fighting hordes of players. Which I've actually seen pre no cp azuras star.

Yea, though if 10 nightblades spambush you, and 10 others that did no damage start teabagging you after you die, I'd consider that a zerg lol.

CatchMeTrolling

Minno wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

It's relative.

Simply being outnumbered refers to getting zerged down & a large group of people also refers to a zerg even if it's 24 vs 24. Ironically a 24 man group fighting 200 wouldn't be considered a zerg.

It's like saying the only 24 people in a gated campaign is zerging when they're fighting hordes of players. Which I've actually seen pre no cp azuras star.

Yea, though if 10 nightblades spambush you, and 10 others that did no damage start teabagging you after you die, I'd consider that a zerg lol.

Well if you mean 2 different sets of 10 then yeah that's a zerg even if they don't hit you, that's 20 people around one. Though you only got zerged down by 10 lol

Minno

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

It's relative.

Simply being outnumbered refers to getting zerged down & a large group of people also refers to a zerg even if it's 24 vs 24. Ironically a 24 man group fighting 200 wouldn't be considered a zerg.

It's like saying the only 24 people in a gated campaign is zerging when they're fighting hordes of players. Which I've actually seen pre no cp azuras star.

Yea, though if 10 nightblades spambush you, and 10 others that did no damage start teabagging you after you die, I'd consider that a zerg lol.

Well if you mean 2 different sets of 10 then yeah that's a zerg even if they don't hit you, that's 20 people around one. Though you only got zerged down by 10 lol

In my situation, they were in stealth when I engaged 3-4. Then got swarmed by 10 and the rest popping out to feast but heard the dinner Bell late.

Guess you can say the they just dropped by for "tea".

FluffyReachWitch

I don't understand the hatred for groups in Cyrodiil, when the map is covered in objectives that are meant for large groups of players to cooperatively capture and defend. To me a 'zerg' is just a group that's big enough to get something done. Trying to play solo or in a tiny group will eventually lead to a 'zerg' running you down, if you spend a lot of time close to the front. That's the risk you take when going alone in a map where group play is intended.

Recremen

I don't consider a large organized group a zerg, no matter how many numbers they have. Organized meaning being able to coordinate actions via direction from the group leader and subcommanders, etc. I don't have an exact number of people in mind for when I say people are zerging, but generally it's got to be a bunch of people, many not in a group, who just happen to be showing up at the same location and following the crowd. No actual direction, just trying to read the swarm's movements and get their hits in.