no CP "test" actually fun, im very suprised

Barbaran

so i only got about 2 hrs in to try and i was pleasently suprised for multiple reasons.

first and foremost, the lag was noticeably decreased. i got into a couple of large group on group fights where both us and blue were zerging, it was easily a 30+ vs 30+ fight, and i could still bar swap and use abilitys, it was a bit delayed in such a large fight but nowhere near as bad as normal considering all 3 alliances had full bars.
the next point is, MOST of the BS is gone.. a few examples:

Templars- with no cp they cannot stand there and infinitly breath of life (gear dependant), and when they do, blessed and quick recovery isnt a thing so no more zero health to full bars with one wave, it takes a few.. and that eats magic fast.

nightblades- i had more then a few attempt at gank (magelight and all) and not once did i get a 2 second death burst. if i died he has to out play me.

sorcs- my main has been a sorc lately, but for those of you that complain about shield stacking, we dont have bastion anymore, and if we sheild stack that eats alot of magic every 6 secs. i did just fine with 1 shield mainly and only stacking in a tight spot.

thats all i noticed from my 2 hrs, my opinion may change the more i play, i might start to hate it, or i might find that theres even less BS and like it more, so far tho i am a fan

Lokey0024

Spot on my experience so far. No more cheese. Never would have thought it made this huge of a difference.

efster

It is so nice to have siege be relevant again. Trollplar trains get absolutely wrecked by cold fire as they run around in a stack as if they have 100 in ele defender.

Talcyndl

Yup. Those of us who have played in Azuras have been saying this all along.

Kalante

I am really enjoying playing with no cp. So many bad players are getting exposed.

xeNNNNN

Kalante wrote: »

I am really enjoying playing with no cp. So many bad players are getting exposed.

should point out that the pops for each factions arent 100% pvpers as a lot of the pver's are taking advantage of the Double AP for skill points from ranks and other crap so a lot of people are just people who dont play pvp often or at all.

DisgracefulMind

While I enjoy the gameplay of no-CP, I did not notice a difference in lag with larger scale fights.

Karivaa

It's been nice being able to wipe zergs again!

RinaldoGandolphi

I'd agree with the OP a million times if I could

Siege matters now which is a good thing it adds flanking strategies to combat large 12+ organized groups

Folks are not immortal anymore and building for straight damage or sustain forces you to sacrifice you can't get both.

Templars can't heal to full with one wave and tanks can't block forever.

Sorcs like myself can't Shield for ever.i have 4K mag regen under certain circumstances and can still run dry if I'm not careful. This is how it should be.

The infinite resource everyone is a house that cp gave us really needs to go...this is not perfect but it's far better then what we had. IMO. Make a few gear and poison adjustments and we will have a solid winner here. Oh and give us back the 4K mag and Stam they took away when starting the cp system and the health we will be good to go.

zuto40

Karivaa wrote: »

It's been nice being able to wipe zergs again!

you and warfare have always been wiping zergs, by zerging, and ult stacking, nothing new here

Vapirko

Welcome to the joys of Azura's Star.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Totally agree! Had SO much fun tonight, took me back to pre 1.6 days.

Having said that I believe they should work on the CP System as a whole and make it viable in PVP as in PVE, not just take the lazy way and ditch CP completely from PVP.

NightbladeMechanics

Heeeeeeeeey what do you know? Don't bash something 'til you try it.

No-CP PvP is far from perfect, but so it CP PvP! At least in no-CP, people are mortal...

It's a fun, temporary change of pace at the very worst.

Lore_lai

Well I tried to Pvp today but F it if I'm gonna play in a campaign that has 150+ queue.
A shame - I would love to see how some of the TF players fare with no CP
Maybe in the days to come if I catch a queue off-hours and it's not laggy.

Turelus

No one is going to be able to get into Azura's Star after this week ends.

Takllin

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

While I enjoy the gameplay of no-CP, I did not notice a difference in lag with larger scale fights.

Basically this. Our fights at Chalman in particular.

NightbladeMechanics

Lore_lai wrote: »

Well I tried to Pvp today but F it if I'm gonna play in a campaign that has 150+ queue.
A shame - I would love to see how some of the TF players fare with no CP
Maybe in the days to come if I catch a queue off-hours and it's not laggy.

So play in Had or Azura's. They were all pop locked earlier, and the PvP was great in each!

kevlarto_ESO

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

I'd agree with the OP a million times if I could

Siege matters now which is a good thing it adds flanking strategies to combat large 12+ organized groups

Folks are not immortal anymore and building for straight damage or sustain forces you to sacrifice you can't get both.

Templars can't heal to full with one wave and tanks can't block forever.

Sorcs like myself can't Shield for ever.i have 4K mag regen under certain circumstances and can still run dry if I'm not careful. This is how it should be.

The infinite resource everyone is a house that cp gave us really needs to go...this is not perfect but it's far better then what we had. IMO. Make a few gear and poison adjustments and we will have a solid winner here. Oh and give us back the 4K mag and Stam they took away when starting the cp system and the health we will be good to go.

I agree ^^ I really hope zos is seeing things like this it seems more and more players are enjoying this pvp need to appeal to a wide range of players not just a handful of elitists, and hopefully with no cp it will flush out the cheat engine users or make them not use it, pvp used to be a lot of fun, but the last couple of months have been some of the worst pvp I have seen and really caused me a huge fan to lose interest.

Toraf

I really like this no CP test, less lag in big battle and the best one I killed a god damn stupid permablocker/spam breath of life templar ! \o/

Reminds me a little bit the beginning of the game.

I was really sceptic about this but nope, /clap Zos.

OGLezard

Agreed 100%

Barbaran

happy to see i didnt get a bunch of hate like i expected since most people seemed to be angry this test week was coming.
im in the mid 500's CP and im lovin this no cp pvp. i got more time in last night/this morning and i was still having a blast.
to beat someone you just have to out play them now, rhey cant just rely on some cancer build they found on youtube.

ZOS you either need to take CP out of pvp ( i could see why they would keep it in PvE) or find a way to balance it out ALOT more so after lvl 50 there is still progression, again that seems to be a complaint about removing cp, loss of progression.

im happy if they just scrap it from pvp at this point tho

starlizard70ub17_ESO

I thought I'd hate it, but I really liked it. It was nice to actually kill someone and not see them pop back up to full life when you got them down to 10% health. Also no cp makes it a lot harder to solo a resource or town.

Rickter

Is the event fun because of no CP?

or is it fun because:

1) AP gains are so substantial that the excitement and addiction to success and victory are more prevalent due to that increased incentive

2) Due to hype and above incentive, more pvp players are entering servers and pop locking campaigns creating dynamic, fast paced, adrenaline packed pvp experiences that weve arguably have always craved.

at this point, Im tempted to say that double AP should stay

Minno

I hope many of you join the AZ server when this week ends!

IcyDeadPeople

Barbaran wrote: »

Templars- with no cp they cannot stand there and infinitly breath of life (gear dependant), and when they do, blessed and quick recovery isnt a thing so no more zero health to full bars with one wave, it takes a few.. and that eats magic fast.

Most were not doing this, but I did fight one guy who was able to stand there spamming breath of life for several minutes.

Barbaran wrote: »

nightblades- i had more then a few attempt at gank (magelight and all) and not once did i get a 2 second death burst. if i died he has to out play me.

I found I'm still able to quickly gank many players with stam NB, in fact the class seems a bit stronger. However, if I fail, it's harder to cloak and escape as my magicka runs out very fast, I can't use purge, and my health dropped to 16k. I should probably switch to stam/mag or tristat food instead of pure stam.

Barbaran wrote: »

sorcs- my main has been a sorc lately, but for those of you that complain about shield stacking, we dont have bastion anymore, and if we sheild stack that eats alot of magic every 6 secs. i did just fine with 1 shield mainly and only stacking in a tight spot.

Yes, I noticed some sorcs seem to be particularly having a tough time with the shields.

Recremen

Anything that shakes things up for a bit can be fun! I wouldn't mind events like this (with different rulesets and double AP) happening a few times a year.

Talcyndl

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

I should probably switch to stam/mag or tristat food instead of pure stam.

IMO, for most builds the best food for no-CP is Max Health + Main Stat Regen.

Patouf

It is not fun but less laggy, because people on each campaign are locked when the numbers of players reach 75 =D

QuebraRegra

Lokey0024 wrote: »

Spot on my experience so far. No more cheese. Never would have thought it made this huge of a difference.

This is why the non-vet campaigns usta be the most fun, before the CP pollution. There was some semblance of balance.

Systems and gears added with no thought to balance. No consideration given to PVE vs PVP balancing systems.

A balanced system wherein the most skillful play wins is the most fun.

WhiteMage

I liked the influx of what appeared to be PvEers. I got "ganked" multiple times by level 10 players, who I enjoyed flipping the table on, and had some sweet tower fights fending off nearly 3x our number with my small, rag-tag group. Everyone was thirsty for AP and that killed just as many people on both sides of the field. Funnnnnnn!

Ghost-Shot

I was skeptical going into it but I honestly don't think I've had this much fun in PvP since 2014