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Who actually bought Manors? With Crown or gold.

  • SatanicSister
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    I'm saving up my gold for Mournoth Keep. It's the only available house that I like.
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  • Stopnaggin
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    I bought a Manor
    I am not wasting my money or my character's gold on something worthless.

    And yet you play the game? I get housing may not be everyone's thing, but "worth" is a matter of opinion. Is the game "worth" $60? Considering you don't own any of it, that's up to each individual.
  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Stopnaggin wrote: »
    I am not wasting my money or my character's gold on something worthless.

    And yet you play the game? I get housing may not be everyone's thing, but "worth" is a matter of opinion. Is the game "worth" $60? Considering you don't own any of it, that's up to each individual.

    What I think he is referring to is the pricing in proportion to what content is provided,

    Lets look at numerical facts and What is solidly proven right now, all opinions aside.


    Large houses and the manors all cost between (6000-15000) crowns unfurnished and furnished.
    the Dollar equivalent (since this is an american company) Would be over $40.00 for even a completely bare house. $39.99 or 5500 crowns is the maximum package we are able to buy.

    Now how much does this game cost? Currently just over $20.00 for the BASE game
    itself. Not including eso plus. So what is that crown equivalent? 3000 crowns?

    Let's look at Morrowinds pricing at $59.99, the largest content update with the (reportedly) largest zone in the entire game. Plus all the content completable in the zone, quests, dungeons, The new trial, the new Class and battlegrounds. This would equal it to a little over 6000 crowns.

    So large houses and manors pricing EXCEED Morrowind update? How does large houses and manors pricing equal and double the content as Vvardenfell?...That is what pricing tells me, values. That doesn't seem like there is a problem with this at all to you?


    So my question is why is housing, an extremely small instanced area with little actual content you can do besides reiterating ingame Available options (crafting stations) And somewhat practical dps dummy. What is the reason that housing proces are over the largest content ingame and the development time that it took to craft Morrowind which certainly outways housing. Also EVERYONE who plays will HAVE to buy morrowind if they want an update. So that is MASSIVE garunteed revenue for them. Housing is not, and is disproportionately priced excessively to only appeal to "whales" and people who have tons of ingame gold.

    It doesn't add anything to the game that constitutes progressive content. Adding furniture is purely cosmetic. Questing, dungeon delving, new class, battlegrounds all add content that progresses your character and fresh NEW content. Housing just added an option to move stuff around that already exists ingame.
    Edited by Nelson_Rebel on February 28, 2017 11:25PM
  • ArchMikem
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    Pre-ordered Morrowind instead. Housing is lame
    The Manors are incredibly out of the question, but I was still a horrible person and spent $80 worth of Crowns buying and furnishing two of the Staple Homes. I really shouldn't have done that, there's no use whatsoever for these things and now I'm suffering incredible buyer's remorse over this. I was strong enough to resist the Crown Crates but when Homestead came I just broke down, and the worst part is there's no refunds even though I'd gladly give up my access to those homes again in exchange.

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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    The Manors are incredibly out of the question, but I was still a horrible person and spent $80 worth of Crowns buying and furnishing two of the Staple Homes. I really shouldn't have done that, there's no use whatsoever for these things and now I'm suffering incredible buyer's remorse over this. I was strong enough to resist the Crown Crates but when Homestead came I just broke down, and the worst part is there's no refunds even though I'd gladly give up my access to those homes again in exchange.


    You may actually be able to get a refund, there have been similar cases where people have been refunded crowns for buying items.

    Put in a ticket ingame and explain your situation and politely ask. It's quite possibly they will
  • Nelson_Rebel
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    jcaceresw wrote: »
    Did not preorder Morrowind yet but also not interested on the Homestead until they get to implement storage. At the moment, I just have all the three free homes. Maybe when I get some attunable crafting stations and the DPS dummies I may opt for a apartment.

    Same here at the moment, although I will buy a crown exclusive simply for the enormous amount of space for a dueling grounds. Haven't decided which one yet

    But yes the storage needs to be addressed, housing in literally every MMO has this feature as a basic setup. This was a huge failure on their part
  • Lithium Flower
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    I bought a Manor
    I got a Manor, the gorgeous DC one with gold that my good friend in The Adventurer's League (PC EU) gifted me for the purpose. Here's to one great guy @Rheknir, you're a gem!
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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    I got a Manor, the gorgeous DC one with gold that my good friend in The Adventurer's League (PC EU) gifted me for the purpose. Here's to one great guy @Rheknir, you're a gem!

    Nice! You have quite a good friend! Enjoy your homestead experience
  • Rickter
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    my guild put a fundraiser together and we bought a Manor (Notable) Home with in game gold. I do know someone that made it rain though lol :lol:

    so far im pretty impressed. im also a little disappointed that some of these "Manors" have such small realestate. I need more land!
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  • Chevie
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    Nope, I got Ravenhurst with gold... 260K .... it's a great house, nice courtyard.... and lots and lots of gold left over for furnishings! :D
  • Vercingetorix
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    Pre-ordered Morrowind instead. Housing is lame
    I'm not interested in Housing as there is no incentive for me to get one - there's no statistical or financial benefit to having a house in this game. Haven't touched the brochure.
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  • JWKe
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    Housing is offers nothing imo. A city already does what it does but free.
  • Stopnaggin
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    I bought a Manor
    I'm not interested in Housing as there is no incentive for me to get one - there's no statistical or financial benefit to having a house in this game. Haven't touched the brochure.

    Actually the free room are great for free wayshrining from anywhere. And since they are free why not. Although I do believe you need to have a toon in each alliance to get the free rooms for that alliance, but they are shared across your account.
  • BobBlast
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    Do the houses have storage? There's my answer. Not trying to sound like an ungrateful jerk but unless it has a function I don't want it. That being said have never been into housing in all of the MMOs I have played.
  • qsnoopyjr
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    "Who actually bought manors with crown or gold"

    I'm one of those that bought without crown or gold.
    I used AP and Tel Var stones to buy it.
  • nine9six
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    Waiting for Morrowind. Will buy one there.
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  • qsnoopyjr
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    qsnoopyjr wrote: »
    "Who actually bought manors with crown or gold"

    I'm one of those that bought without crown or gold.
    I used AP and Tel Var stones to buy it.

    You know the house in cyrodil?
    The ones in Fort Glademist?
    Yep I own a place in Fort Glademist, you can be restassured no EP or AD ever going to take that fort down and burn my house through a hostile takeover.
    I spent many hours decorating it, those EP and AD going to be in for a fight, cuz I aint considering that a waste of my time.
    I'm defending the Fort my house is in with my life.
    Come at me BRUH
    Edited by qsnoopyjr on March 1, 2017 8:06PM
  • AlMcFly
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    I bought one of the Large category houses. I like them much better than any of the Manors.
  • Imryll
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    I'd planned to buy Black Vine Villa, but it doesn't have enough flat wall space for the paintings I keep finding. I really wish they'd add a small courtyard to Cliffshade,but most likely I'm saving for Mathiisen, although I wish it had a better view and a less barracks floorplan. Anyway, the daily roulette of opening containers and seeing what I can learn to make is fun.
  • thisisScoMan
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    I bought each of the racial small houses with in game gold so each of my characters has a place to put their feet up at the end of the day. Although none of them have any furniture yet. Just a big ol empty dark house.

    I plan on looking at the CS Exclusive houses to see if they're worth buying with crowns. Particularly the private island.
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  • ArrerBoy
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    I bought a Manor
    Gold. My pointless hoarding gold in the bank has finally paid off: and empty mansion where I can sleep on the floor!

    Some may say I could do that in an inn, but at least in my own mansion I don't have to worry about people coming in to ERP.
    Edited by ArrerBoy on March 1, 2017 10:07PM
  • Tannus15
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    Crowns are a funny currency because of ESO+.
    Every few months I get 4,500 crowns because I want the craft bag. I don't really have much use for them generally so they bank up and suddenly I can afford a furnished house.

    This is the primary reason Morrowind is not available for crowns (in my opinion). I would immediately start banking crowns for it and by June I would get it for "free". This is why comparing the crown "cost" of a house to Morrowind is a bit apples to oranges in the weird world of the crown economy.
  • UrQuan
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    I bought a Manor
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    I bought one of the Large category houses. I like them much better than any of the Manors.
    There are 2 of the Large category houses in particular that I really like. I was going to get Hunding's Palatial Hall and Forsaken Stronghold in preference to any of the manors. Then I realized that you can go cliff diving from Daggerfall Overlook, so I had to get it :p

    I'm still planning on getting both Hunding's and Forsaken though, I just have to rebuild my gold reserves after spending it all on Daggerfall Overlook.
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  • Chronicburn
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    Not buying crap house until they actually do something (storage, merchant, portal,crafting stations, resource gardens) would be nice for a start but they should also be built by players on lots purchased in the game world and also be transferable.... as for morrowind... yeah probably at some point
    Edited by Chronicburn on March 1, 2017 11:25PM
  • AlMcFly
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    I bought one of the Large category houses. I like them much better than any of the Manors.
    There are 2 of the Large category houses in particular that I really like. I was going to get Hunding's Palatial Hall and Forsaken Stronghold in preference to any of the manors. Then I realized that you can go cliff diving from Daggerfall Overlook, so I had to get it :p

    I'm still planning on getting both Hunding's and Forsaken though, I just have to rebuild my gold reserves after spending it all on Daggerfall Overlook.

    When I toured Daggerfall Overlook, I completely missed the trap door that exits into water. I only recently saw it in a video and thought it was one of the coolest features in all the homesteads. Provides a lot of room for creativity in that space.
  • UrQuan
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    AlMcFly wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    I bought one of the Large category houses. I like them much better than any of the Manors.
    There are 2 of the Large category houses in particular that I really like. I was going to get Hunding's Palatial Hall and Forsaken Stronghold in preference to any of the manors. Then I realized that you can go cliff diving from Daggerfall Overlook, so I had to get it :p

    I'm still planning on getting both Hunding's and Forsaken though, I just have to rebuild my gold reserves after spending it all on Daggerfall Overlook.

    When I toured Daggerfall Overlook, I completely missed the trap door that exits into water. I only recently saw it in a video and thought it was one of the coolest features in all the homesteads. Provides a lot of room for creativity in that space.
    I thought the trap door was pretty pointless, as slaughterfish keep you from swimming any distance away from it. Until I realized that it's not to get out of the manor into the water. It's to get in to the manor from the water after you do some cliff diving from right above the water that the trap door leads out to!
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  • Nelson_Rebel
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    UrQuan wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    I bought one of the Large category houses. I like them much better than any of the Manors.
    There are 2 of the Large category houses in particular that I really like. I was going to get Hunding's Palatial Hall and Forsaken Stronghold in preference to any of the manors. Then I realized that you can go cliff diving from Daggerfall Overlook, so I had to get it :p

    I'm still planning on getting both Hunding's and Forsaken though, I just have to rebuild my gold reserves after spending it all on Daggerfall Overlook.

    When I toured Daggerfall Overlook, I completely missed the trap door that exits into water. I only recently saw it in a video and thought it was one of the coolest features in all the homesteads. Provides a lot of room for creativity in that space.
    I thought the trap door was pretty pointless, as slaughterfish keep you from swimming any distance away from it. Until I realized that it's not to get out of the manor into the water. It's to get in to the manor from the water after you do some cliff diving from right above the water that the trap door leads out to!

    This is an interesting observation! I wish they added cool additions like that to the others
  • UrQuan
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    I bought a Manor
    UrQuan wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    UrQuan wrote: »
    AlMcFly wrote: »
    I bought one of the Large category houses. I like them much better than any of the Manors.
    There are 2 of the Large category houses in particular that I really like. I was going to get Hunding's Palatial Hall and Forsaken Stronghold in preference to any of the manors. Then I realized that you can go cliff diving from Daggerfall Overlook, so I had to get it :p

    I'm still planning on getting both Hunding's and Forsaken though, I just have to rebuild my gold reserves after spending it all on Daggerfall Overlook.

    When I toured Daggerfall Overlook, I completely missed the trap door that exits into water. I only recently saw it in a video and thought it was one of the coolest features in all the homesteads. Provides a lot of room for creativity in that space.
    I thought the trap door was pretty pointless, as slaughterfish keep you from swimming any distance away from it. Until I realized that it's not to get out of the manor into the water. It's to get in to the manor from the water after you do some cliff diving from right above the water that the trap door leads out to!

    This is an interesting observation! I wish they added cool additions like that to the others
    I haven't done much decorating of my manor yet, but the first thing I did was set up a diving board above the trap door B)
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  • Wolfenbelle
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    The Island is the only house I'm interested in. Everything else is Meh, won't waste gold or real money on this stuff. As days go by I'm losing interest in the Island, as I can see what kind of grind I'm in for. ZOS should have had it available for purchase on day one of housing.

    I agree. The island is also the only home I was really interested in. Because ZOS didn't release it, and no release date has been published, I bought the Hundings Palatial Hall (furnished) will crowns, then made modifications to please me and make it useful for guild and visitors. It has all the crafting stations (not attunable), the dye station, all three assistants, and both the standard and robust dummies. Even though I can afford to spend some entertainment money on housing in the game, now that I've experienced home ownership, I don't know if also buying the island is worth it.

    One thing I've notice that's disappointing...even though I've made it available to two guilds, no one seems to bother using the place, unless they do when I'm off line. Really...other than something to tinker with, houses have very, very limited value. I think I'd feel the same way about the island, which was very appealing at first and now not so much. If my reaction is common among players, ZOS may have made a big mistake waiting to release the island.
    Edited by Wolfenbelle on March 2, 2017 1:40AM
  • Nelson_Rebel
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    The Island is the only house I'm interested in. Everything else is Meh, won't waste gold or real money on this stuff. As days go by I'm losing interest in the Island, as I can see what kind of grind I'm in for. ZOS should have had it available for purchase on day one of housing.

    I agree. The island is also the only home I was really interested in. Because ZOS didn't release it, and no release date has been published, I bought the Hundings Palatial Hall (furnished) will crowns, then made modifications to please me and make it useful for guild and visitors. It has all the crafting stations (not attunable), the dye station, all three assistants, and both the standard and robust dummies. Even though I can afford to spend some entertainment money on housing in the game, now that I've experienced home ownership, I don't know if also buying the island is worth it.

    One thing I've notice that's disappointing...even though I've made it available to two guilds, no one seems to bother using the place, unless they do when I'm off line. Really...other than something to tinker with, houses have very, very limited value. I think I'd feel the same way about the island, which was very appealing at first and now not so much. If my reaction is common among players, ZOS may have made a big mistake waiting to release the island.


    I agree, Homestead was a nice idea with poor execution and incentives. Very lazily, as it's just space to rearrange items that already exist ingame, as well as the houses themselves. All are instances but the structures were all already ingame existing structures. No originality.
    There were a couple interesting locations but that is the base game areas and nothing special to housing.

    Greater incentives are needed to keep housing from crashing into obscurity within a month. There just aren't any real reasons to visit these instances that isn't doable ingame already in different fashions
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