Do Gankblades think they're cool?

FrostFallFox

Ask them what they think.

Anti_Virus

JinMori wrote: »

Remove bonus damage from stealth that nb gets, it's cancerous.

Would you buff NB survivability to compensate?

ArchMikem

The best way to deal with a Nightblade, is by being another Nightblade.

Whenever one pops their head out of Stealth, first thing I immediately do is cast Piercing Mark. It's hilarious seeing them desperately trying to run away, casting Cloak and failing miserably. Then it's just a matter of trying to land your hits on them as they use up all their Stamina dodge rolling away.

S1ipperyJim

SaRuZ wrote: »

Had one literally stalk my girl and I in IC just now. We were in a dead server, IC was completely blue and she needed Hakejio. I rarely go to IC. I msg the guy asking him to leave us alone and then he follows us around ganking us everytime we hit a mob. This system is so stupid. Stones being ganked by cowards.

You're in a warzone. Expect to be killed by the enemy.

Narvuntien

I do not think I am cool.
I am enjoying the challanges of performing a successful gank.

Just because it looks like I come out of nowhere and one shot you doesn't mean there isn't a lot of planning, positioning buffing that goes into it before the act.

You are underestimating the effort invovled.

Zvorgin

There is always the option to kill the ganker, nothing forcing you to be the hunted. Take his stones.

SaRuZ

S1ipperyJim wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Had one literally stalk my girl and I in IC just now. We were in a dead server, IC was completely blue and she needed Hakejio. I rarely go to IC. I msg the guy asking him to leave us alone and then he follows us around ganking us everytime we hit a mob. This system is so stupid. Stones being ganked by cowards.

You're in a warzone. Expect to be killed by the enemy.

It was more like harassment. District to district but it's cool. I reported him for unsporting behavior. In a warzone, you kill whoever you see, harassment, you follow the same two people around for an hour. Btw, my wife is a 255 healer. Classic 561 NB always waiting and ganking lowbies. Also, I did spam Scorching Flare, didn't do any good. Alas, I am done with this thread. Just another post for this [snip] community to bash. What's new.

[Edit to remove profanity]

mb10

It definitely takes more skill than standing there and spamming heals, then pulling out jabs to spam those then a radiant desstruction.


ALSO, takes more skill than hurricane, critical charge, dawnbreaker and then executioner too Stam Sorcs.

Its easy to point the finger at nightblades but I genuinely think it takes skill to kill and remian hidden (if you're doing it solo against a group)
I personally have no respect for the typical magplar and stam sorc who think they're unique and skillful.

Minalan

Best advice I can give to a TV farmer: Bring a few dozen friends.

* Gankblades will still hit you but they can't kill 20+ people. They get really mad when you gang up and refuse to be easy picking.
* The mobs die faster, and you can farm the heck out of the bosses in every district, run clockwise or counter clockwise and keep moving.
* Safety in numbers. Players who are less skilled at PVP can heal up, guard, and buff those who are.
* Capture districts and gain AP, then buy an imperial recall stone. Use those if you really need to, but if your group is big enough you can pretty much slow-walk home.
* Don't chase or engage an enemy alone, stay in your group. Remain disciplined. Use teamspeak and fight together as a unit. Designate a leader and follow.

Nightblades complain constantly about zerging, but their sociopathic and predatory playstyle pretty much requires grouping up for new and inexperienced PVPers. And when you step into IC, you BECOME a PVPer, whether you like it or not. Fortunately you don't have to be a great PVPer to succeed, you just need friends.

Now gather your whole guild and go back and get the Hajieko stone you want. You might even enjoy group PVP and get good at it.

disintegr8

Narvuntien wrote: »

I do not think I am cool.
I am enjoying the challanges of performing a successful gank.

Just because it looks like I come out of nowhere and one shot you doesn't mean there isn't a lot of planning, positioning buffing that goes into it before the act.

You are underestimating the effort invovled.

So that is what makes a rabbit hunter with a shot gun better than the rabbit he kills - the planning, positioning and buffing that to goes into it?

It is not whether they think they are cool or not. What tells me a lot about these people is the fact that they do not care what you, me, or anyone else thinks of them.

Shunravi

Nope, just pigeonholed into bull.

Strider_Roshin

I had some guild mates use crackwood in order to level up their low levels, and this mag sorc (max level) kept ganking them. So my guild mates sent the sorc a message asking if he could leave them alone. So he responds with "10k and I'll leave you alone".

So then I go there, and kill the sorc. After he came back and died around three or four times, I messaged him saying "10k and I'll leave you alone". He never came back after that.

chaserstorm16909

You reported him for unsporting behavior???? He was killing you in a pvp zone. If the developers at ZOS actually read their complaints, they would be laughing at you right now.

MLGProPlayer

Stealth classes attract the scum of the earth in every game.

I don't mind them in close quarters PvP games (like MOBAs and team based shooters), but they are super annoying in PvE/PvP hybrid games where you can't defend yourself against a gank while you're preoccupied with PvE mobs.

Minalan

Smepic wrote: »

The Nightblade had no obligation to leave you alone, even if you asked him/her. Though, Imperial City, including the sewers, is a big place – just move to a different location.

They aren't under any obligation, you're right there. But only a scrub is going to hunt down and kill some newbie over and over again.

If I run into a couple of PVE players that die really quickly, I'll kill them just that once. Then leave. Any more than that is just borderline sociopathic.

Experienced PVPers? I've had some really fun back and forth kill-one-another-then-respawn fights. I kill him, then maybe once again, then he manages to kill me. That's what I'm looking for.

FloppyTouch

Yes they really do think they are cool and best pvpers but if you try the play style for more then a day it take no skill even less skill in ic

MakoFore

its a combat area- u want ur cake and to eat it- to be able to walk thru a war zone, get ur shards, farm stones and ey fragments, etc- sorry to spoil u and ur girls walk- but its what the area is there for.

zaria

Rene_Valionus wrote: »

Not to sound harsh but I've always regarded PvP zones as fair game areas, and saying that the system is stupid because it is working as intended is kinda silly.

This, its add a bit of spice.
I'm not an PvP player myself, yes I enjoy Cyrodil with guild as an group activity and had plenty of fun but as an group event.
If you farm and get ganked its part of the risk, same way as faming in hard areas like craglorn.
Ress and go somewhere else, and keep to areas your faction control.

For skyshard and quests same rules, for enemy areas do it as an group or on an low pop campain at low pop hours.
And yes if you saw an enemy you could kill easy because he was fighting an monster, would you not kill him.

Rohamad_Ali

Did you ask nicely ? It is a PVP zone and you are walking in of your own free will . If someone told me to just leave them alone I would put them on ignore and kill them . If they asked politely I have nothing forcing me to oblige but probably would if it was asked in a nice way . Gankers get ganked too and are taking a risk too in IC . Sometimes they get zerged down and are in a bad mood .

Lukums1

Did someone say?

GangPlank?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrOiNqqaE1M

thankyourat

I will usually defend nightblades but I have zero love for gankers especially gankers who prey on low cp players. I agree with you op it's a very toxic playstyle and it's such a gimmick. I will say it's easy to counter just listen for the sound of a bow attack and instantly put up block. you brought some of this on yourself as well. if you aren't very good yet you shouldn't be walking around imperial city with only 2 people and zero stealth counters. You are basically nightblade prey at that point. Some things you can do have a better experience are slot radiant magelight, get some detect/immovable pots, and maybe even wear heavy armor. It's the best armor option for every class except sorcerer and if you are a sorc and solo in imperial city you need to be casting a shield every 6 seconds until you learn how to detect gankers using the audio ques the game give. Because while I do agree with you ganking is very toxic, it doesn't sound like you are taking many preventive measures to avoid being ganked. And honestly if you are new to PvP and are in a small group any skilled PVPer will take your stones regardless of class

Captain8504

You live by the gank, you die by the gank.

DM_ESO

Tryxus wrote: »

NightSHADES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56HSPQHSqEE

Delimber

I like counter ganking, or being the bait to help gank the ganker lol

I'm not one for Ganking Telvar, unless your glowing blue.

S1ipperyJim

Minalan wrote: »

Best advice I can give to a TV farmer: Bring a few dozen friends.

* Gankblades will still hit you but they can't kill 20+ people. They get really mad when you gang up and refuse to be easy picking.
* The mobs die faster, and you can farm the heck out of the bosses in every district, run clockwise or counter clockwise and keep moving.
* Safety in numbers. Players who are less skilled at PVP can heal up, guard, and buff those who are.
* Capture districts and gain AP, then buy an imperial recall stone. Use those if you really need to, but if your group is big enough you can pretty much slow-walk home.
* Don't chase or engage an enemy alone, stay in your group. Remain disciplined. Use teamspeak and fight together as a unit. Designate a leader and follow.

Nightblades complain constantly about zerging, but their sociopathic and predatory playstyle pretty much requires grouping up for new and inexperienced PVPers. And when you step into IC, you BECOME a PVPer, whether you like it or not. Fortunately you don't have to be a great PVPer to succeed, you just need friends.

Now gather your whole guild and go back and get the Hajieko stone you want. You might even enjoy group PVP and get good at it.

On the coolness scale, ganking > zerging

Judas Helviaryn

People are toxic, yes. People wear their egos on their sleeves, double yes. People tend to gravitate towards the most efficient (easiest) method of action to achieve their goals. This applies to everyone, that's human nature.

Ganking is going to happen. It sucks to be on the receiving end, and for some people, it sucks to perform.

It's a fact of life.

The system is working as intended, and you should expect to be killed every time you walk through that door. Take steps to mitigate your risk, applaud those who best you, ignore the bad sports, and have fun. If you can't have fun with the level of risk in the Imperial City, then perhaps that particular piece of content is not for you.

That's alright, but that's not the game.

It's you.

SirAndy

SaRuZ wrote: »

I reported him for unsporting behavior

Are you serial?

Kram8ion

Surely there's a nb guild called scum of the earth somewhere

Ampnode

SaRuZ wrote: »

S1ipperyJim wrote: »

SaRuZ wrote: »

Had one literally stalk my girl and I in IC just now. We were in a dead server, IC was completely blue and she needed Hakejio. I rarely go to IC. I msg the guy asking him to leave us alone and then he follows us around ganking us everytime we hit a mob. This system is so stupid. Stones being ganked by cowards.

You're in a warzone. Expect to be killed by the enemy.

It was more like harassment. District to district but it's cool. I reported him for unsporting behavior. In a warzone, you kill whoever you see, harassment, you follow the same two people around for an hour. Btw, my wife is a 255 healer. Classic 561 NB always waiting and ganking lowbies. Also, I did spam Scorching Flare, didn't do any good. Alas, I am done with this thread. Just another post for this [snip] community to bash. What's new.

What's humorous about this whole thread is that you've shown to be as toxic as the people you're describing. Based on how you're acting, I can assume you went off on the guy rather than "asking politely" to stop. You need to take some time off the game, buddy. Go spend some time with the wife on the beach.

disintegr8 wrote: »

So that is what makes a rabbit hunter with a shot gun better than the rabbit he kills - the planning, positioning and buffing that to goes into it?

It is not whether they think they are cool or not. What tells me a lot about these people is the fact that they do not care what you, me, or anyone else thinks of them.

Why should they care what you think about them. It's a video game. They're having a good time playing their class while we have people like OP sitting here on the forums demanding nerfs; hell, even demanding bans. Get ganked? Shrug it off and keep playing. People need to learn that dying in a game is just that. Dying in a video game. Die and respawn. Rinse and repeat.

Rohamad_Ali

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

People are toxic, yes. People wear their egos on their sleeves, double yes. People tend to gravitate towards the most efficient (easiest) method of action to achieve their goals. This applies to everyone, that's human nature.

Ganking is going to happen. It sucks to be on the receiving end, and for some people, it sucks to perform.

It's a fact of life.

The system is working as intended, and you should expect to be killed every time you walk through that door. Take steps to mitigate your risk, applaud those who best you, ignore the bad sports, and have fun. If you can't have fun with the level of risk in the Imperial City, then perhaps that particular piece of content is not for you.

That's alright, but that's not the game.

It's you.

But what if he wasn't being toxic at all and just Roleplaying a highly trained Assasin for his faction tasked with one objective he must not fail ... Kill all enemies who enter the tunnels ! ?

If he then did allow this enemy player to pass he or she would of been in direct dereliction of thier duties and a subject to court marshal ... That kind of record can follow a role player around you know .