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200k AP/H sitting afk at BB mine

  • Wollust
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    I'd love to have the lol button for those numbers ZoS is throwing around again
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    Numbers? What are numbers?
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    DD for The Phoenix Reborn
    Former Zerg Squad/Banana Squad


  • IxSTALKERxI
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    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.
    NA | PC | Aldmeri Dominion
    Laser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of Blackwater
    Former Emperor x11 campaign cycles
    Venatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel
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    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Satiar wrote: »
    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?

    Lol yeah but normally you can go 2wks without pvp and get gold rewards. Since the O tick change the AP requirement for gold rewards went up by like 500k or so.
    NA | PC | Aldmeri Dominion
    Laser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of Blackwater
    Former Emperor x11 campaign cycles
    Venatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel
  • Ackwalan
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    Satiar wrote: »
    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?

    Lol yeah but normally you can go 2wks without pvp and get gold rewards. Since the O tick change the AP requirement for gold rewards went up by like 500k or so.

    The only time you can go 2 weeks without PvP and still get gold rewards, is in a PvD campaign.

  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?

    Lol yeah but normally you can go 2wks without pvp and get gold rewards. Since the O tick change the AP requirement for gold rewards went up by like 500k or so.

    The only time you can go 2 weeks without PvP and still get gold rewards, is in a PvD campaign.

    Nah, the more people in the campaign the easier it is. You can get 2mil AP in the first 3 days of Trueflame campaign and by the end of the campaign you'll still be in the running for gold rewards lol. Atleast on NA.
    NA | PC | Aldmeri Dominion
    Laser Eyes AR 26 Arcanist | Stalker V AR 41 Warden | I Stalker I AR 42 NB | Stalkersaurus AR 31 Templar | Stalker Ill AR 31 Sorc | Nigel the Great of Blackwater
    Former Emperor x11 campaign cycles
    Venatus Officer | RIP RÁGE | YouTube Channel
  • Ackwalan
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?

    Lol yeah but normally you can go 2wks without pvp and get gold rewards. Since the O tick change the AP requirement for gold rewards went up by like 500k or so.

    The only time you can go 2 weeks without PvP and still get gold rewards, is in a PvD campaign.

    Nah, the more people in the campaign the easier it is. You can get 2mil AP in the first 3 days of Trueflame campaign and by the end of the campaign you'll still be in the running for gold rewards lol. Atleast on NA.

    Stop kidding yourself.

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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?

    Lol yeah but normally you can go 2wks without pvp and get gold rewards. Since the O tick change the AP requirement for gold rewards went up by like 500k or so.

    The only time you can go 2 weeks without PvP and still get gold rewards, is in a PvD campaign.
    That just isnt true. It is easily possible to get 6 million ap in the first half which will be enough to get gold rewards.
    - EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
    AD | AR 50 | Sanct Fir'eheal | ex Mana DK @31.10.2015
    EP | AR 50 | Sanctosaurus | Mana NB
    AD | AR 44 | rekt ya | Mana NB
    AD | AR 41 | Sanct Thunderstorm | Mana Sorc
    EP | AR 36 | S'na'ct | Mana NB {NA}
    AD | AR 29 | Captain Full Fist| Stam DK
    AD | AR 29 | Sanct The Dark Phoenix| Stam Sorc
    EP | AR 16 | Horny Sanct | Stam Warden
    EP | AR 16 | Sánct Bánáná Sláyér | Mana DK
    DC | AR 13 | ad worst faction eu | Stam Sorc
    DC | AR 13 | Lagendary Sanct | Mana NB

    >320.000.000 AP
  • Joy_Division
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    Looking at our data over the 13 days has some information you all may find interesting.

    No outposts, keeps, districts, towns or resources since the Black Boot mine change are actually giving players 200k AP per hour. The highest AP earning rate per hour is 120,000-140,000 AP by 2 people, that was done for 1 afternoon, and hasn't been done again since the 9th.

    The next highest AP earned per hour is 60-90k which was done by 9 players doing a mixture of keep captures, keep defenses, repairs, killing blows, and assists yielding higher than normal gains. We're digging into more details of those gains and dates.

    26% of the PC population is earning between 20-60k per hour which doesn't raise any red flags, since we saw those amounts of gains prior to the Homestead patch. That being said, we are also looking at those numbers to see if they warrant changes to AP gains from all sources in Campaigns.

    74% of the PC population is earning between 0-20k AP per hour, which is what qualifies as "normal play" AP gains.


    As noted in the initial PTS post about the AP change, we are closely monitoring player behavior both in game and with metrics like those you see here which will determine where we go with AP gains in the future.

    I think these sort of marcostatistics miss the point.

    Is my AP / per hour radically changed? No. Whether I play solo or in my guild group, my AP gain is a little higher per hour because 85% of the time I am playing and doing the exact same things as before the AP changes: looking for fights, defending Chalman from the DC horde, and pouring oils on Alessia bridge because it's the only place with action on the map. I absolutely believe 74% of the PvP population earns <20K per hour.

    It's the 15% that bothers me. Sticking around a PvDoor for that 6K tick, intentionally allowing enemy to flip keep resources for a big recapture tick, pulling off a skillful and important keep defense and being rewarded with a 3K defensive tick as opposed to PvDing Brindle and getting 6K is just messed up. Statistics do and will not reflect that sort of idiocy.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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    Is it already Christmas?
  • Apokalypt
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    So, according to Zenimax, 20k/h is normal play? That would mean it takes 3234 hours to gain max rank. Ain`t nobody got time for dat.
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    Apokalypt wrote: »
    So, according to Zenimax, 20k/h is normal play? That would mean it takes 3234 hours to gain max rank. Ain`t nobody got time for dat.

    About the same number of hours required to get a desired trait weapon from vMSA. :trollface:
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    I was near the top of the leaderboard and stopped pvping for 2 wks when patch came out, I log in to collect my gold rewards for the end of the campaign, only to see that I had been knocked into purple rewards from all the people collecting O ticks. Like wtf how did I end up with purple rewards lol.

    Might've been that two weeks without PvP that did it?

    Lol yeah but normally you can go 2wks without pvp and get gold rewards. Since the O tick change the AP requirement for gold rewards went up by like 500k or so.

    The only time you can go 2 weeks without PvP and still get gold rewards, is in a PvD campaign.

    i've repeatedly had gold rewards on two chars in AS EU AD (i.e. it could be seen as 15days missed, and on top of that i'm never there for the full 30 days and I have to work at day). One player in my guild has hit 3 chars repeatedly and I'm not 100% sure he hasn't also hit 4 chars already.

    Concerning pvdoor campaigns: Getting multiple chars to the top is MUCH easier now than it used to be when we played on less populated (usually campaigns with almost no yellow because all of them follow big boss on TF), where sometimes the top 2% ranged to less than the top 10 leaderboards. Imho the fuller a campaign, the easier to hit top 2% because there will always be a few players more motivated near the visible 10% list and more players means you a a very long tail of PvE players and casuals who seldomly log in.
    @bbu - AD/EU
    Kasiia - Templar (AR46)
    Kasiir Aberion - Sorc (AR38)
    Dr Kastafari - Warden (~AR31)
    + many others
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    Just remembered a funny event from the weekend.

    A friend whispered me Saturday night asking if I wanted to go fishing on ESO Sunday to get the achievements, I replied saying "can't tomorrow it's roleplay day so busy all day" and didn't think any more of it.

    Sunday afternoon and I am GM'ing my session and Skype pings and the conversation goes like this.

    Friend: If you see any of my guild AP farming can you screenshot for me?
    Me: I don't farm any more, I quit remember?
    Friend: Oh?
    Me: Yeah I quit last week, I told you that.
    Friend: But you said you were roleplaying today.

    GG Bleakers "roleplayers" GG. :joy:
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
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    GG ZOS.
    Good work on the double AP event!
    Member of HODOR

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    You know what I might just say screw morals and go back to this, as ZOS don't seem interested in stopping it I am going to get some ranks and motifs.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • themdogesbite
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    Thanks for completely messing up AvA Ranks and the AP market. Next time you "monitor" something please look at the EU server aswell.
    :]
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    Thanks for completely messing up AvA Ranks and the AP market. Next time you "monitor" something please look at the EU server aswell.

    The what server? Never heard of it
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    Thanks roleplayers i guess?
    :]
  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Thanks roleplayers i guess?

    RP without interruption still gives 500k AP / h + you can go to the gym while you do it or whatever, work, sleep, eat, learn
    ~ here since Beta

    My Youtube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCw3x5B-l0S093TAo10WafLA


    EU Server PC @Elendiel
    Fyrusha - NB AD
    Auri-ele - Sorc AD
    Watch me Nae Nae - Magicka DK AD
    Watch me Whip - Magicka DK DC
    Schnuggii - Bubble Templar AD
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    Thanks roleplayers i guess?

    thats impossibru, nobody makes more than 20k ap/hour. it is known
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    Thanks roleplayers i guess?

    Good roleplayers. At least they're useful for something.
    Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
    PC - EU.
    Lieblingsjunge(AD) - Racechanged Argonian :< | AR 50 - No double AP or Bleakers involved |
    Sits-On-Cacti(DC) - Problem?
    Fail-With-Tail(AD) - Healing Springs-spammer :<
    Tiny Liebs(EP) - Very Tiny. Also heals.
    Lieblingsmädchen(DC) - Magplar is love.
    The Dominàtrix(AD) - Chains, whip, whip, whip.
    Fluffy Furball Kitten(DC) - Kittycat, meow.
    Your Face(EP) - People make bad jokes about my name =(
    Liebs-With-Trees(AD) - Male argo with a big tail :>

    Officer/Sandwitch of Zerg Squad
    My title: The Maneater, Destroyer of Maneuvers, Bane of Potatoes, she who devours them, The Black Hole, the humorless, first of her name.
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    We wiped them on haderus yesterday, wiped today. Now we public enemies №1 there for fellow EP. At least we fount source of endless salt.
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    Yeah, I guess the no life pvpers don`t like that...
    Honestly, pvp is so *** with the zergs etc. then I rather use keep flipping...
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Apokalypt wrote: »
    Yeah, I guess the no life pvpers don`t like that...
    Honestly, pvp is so *** with the zergs etc. then I rather use keep flipping...

    Why even go to PVP if you don't like it?
    @Solar_Breeze
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    EU ~ Izanagi: Banana Squad (AOE Rats/ Zerg Squad / Roleplay Circle)
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    Suddenly, all the moral PvPers are at the outposts.
  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Suddenly, all the moral PvPers are at the outposts.
    Moral PvPer? Whats that?
    ~ here since Beta

    My Youtube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCw3x5B-l0S093TAo10WafLA


    EU Server PC @Elendiel
    Fyrusha - NB AD
    Auri-ele - Sorc AD
    Watch me Nae Nae - Magicka DK AD
    Watch me Whip - Magicka DK DC
    Schnuggii - Bubble Templar AD
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    We wiped them on haderus yesterday, wiped today. Now we public enemies №1 there for fellow EP. At least we fount source of endless salt.
    kills.jpg

    Yup, u are now oficially enemy of the pact and most successful afk killing raid eu.. Too bad that u only good for that because yesterday yellows and blues farmed 3 kk ap on ur watch u doing pretty good job at making ep loosing everything xD. Just like u always do!

    --Lord Daryn Redoran
  • Ackwalan
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    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Suddenly, all the moral PvPers are at the outposts.
    Moral PvPer? Whats that?

    Saying moral PvPers, was meant sarcastically. I've noticed a lot of people riding their high horse about outpost flipping for 6K, but now that it is 12k, they've climbed off that pony and joined in. I guess the price of their "honor" was met.

    As a side note. Why did ZOS decide to flag this thread to no longer get bumped up when a new post is added?
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