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200k AP/H sitting afk at BB mine
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Chuga_Rei✭✭✭✭✭well, ZOS may as well ban everyone then.. and no one will play .. I mean, everyone is going invisible these days (all the cool kids are doing it) and I'm sure they're being told by the players they're killing in "hate tells".. "hey, you're invisible btw"...
Hi. My name is common sense, would you care to borrow me for a second to differentiate between the 2 situations?MAIN: Subtomik |DC| Templar| Grand Overlord| Magicka since release(GET RID OF RD and give me back blinding flashes!)
Scrubtomik|EP |Templar|Rerolled to help outnumbered EP
Urban Youth|DC | Nightblade|AVA RANK 15| Stam
Not A Racist |EP|Nightblade| Magicka| Maelstrom farmer
Triggered Liberal|DC| New maelstrom farmer lol
Pls Send Nudes |AD| DK
GM of Full Metal Carebears
No Mercy
AutoBots
K-hole
Gone but not forgotten, Braidas, Marku, and a dozen other heroes11 -
Delphinia✭✭✭✭✭well, ZOS may as well ban everyone then.. and no one will play .. I mean, everyone is going invisible these days (all the cool kids are doing it) and I'm sure they're being told by the players they're killing in "hate tells".. "hey, you're invisible btw"...
Hi. My name is common sense, would you care to borrow me for a second to differentiate between the 2 situations?
You're entitled to your opinion. As I am mine. There's no need to resort to disrespect.1 -
Chuga_Rei✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.MAIN: Subtomik |DC| Templar| Grand Overlord| Magicka since release(GET RID OF RD and give me back blinding flashes!)
Scrubtomik|EP |Templar|Rerolled to help outnumbered EP
Urban Youth|DC | Nightblade|AVA RANK 15| Stam
Not A Racist |EP|Nightblade| Magicka| Maelstrom farmer
Triggered Liberal|DC| New maelstrom farmer lol
Pls Send Nudes |AD| DK
GM of Full Metal Carebears
No Mercy
AutoBots
K-hole
Gone but not forgotten, Braidas, Marku, and a dozen other heroes11 -
Delphinia✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.Edited by Delphinia on February 11, 2017 1:33AM2 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
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Valencer✭✭✭✭✭
✭So as predicted people just moved to outposts and keeps on an empty campaign after BB mine got fixed, surprising absolutely noone
Is it really that weird of an idea that maybe objectives shouldnt give you AP if no PvP was involved? I get that they want to encourage playing the map properly again but honestly... this would happen naturally if PvP was in a better state in general. Giving people a carrot on a stick to get them to do something they dont really enjoy that much isnt the answer, and does more harm than good.Edited by Valencer on February 11, 2017 1:50AM4 -
Delphinia✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?1 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?3 -
waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭Please include this in the file for why Emp bonuses should be nerfed, or for why that entire achievement and skill line should be reworked.
Getting emp by actually contributing and leading isn't possible when this phenomenon is commonplace.PS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
Khajiit stamblade main - Walking the Two-Moons Path and robbing cute Breton boys.
Breton magplar vet Trial Healer - Promoting wellness through self-reflection.
Argonian Tripot DK Cyrodiil Tank - One with the Hist and guarding cute Breton boys.
Altmer magsorc PvE DPS - Scamp tramp and unrepentant lush.
"30s to eval"
"Read the ******* lorebook."0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
You are delusional since being sick in bed and absent from game is not an excuse for exploiting. You made a donkey of yourself and are now hanging by your nails trying to save you face. You can't. So stop trying, although it inspires pity for you in my warm and caring soul, you've come out bad here, so circulate.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?2 -
waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭This happens on PS4 too right?
If so, I'm a complete moron. I've always assumed that the DC bomplars were back-capping that mine just to pull us off resources elsewhere. It never actually occurred to me that a specific resource might have an incorrect AP value assigned, and that would be why the resource was always targeted.
With that mystery revealed, I guess we can worry a lot less about BB.PS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
Khajiit stamblade main - Walking the Two-Moons Path and robbing cute Breton boys.
Breton magplar vet Trial Healer - Promoting wellness through self-reflection.
Argonian Tripot DK Cyrodiil Tank - One with the Hist and guarding cute Breton boys.
Altmer magsorc PvE DPS - Scamp tramp and unrepentant lush.
"30s to eval"
"Read the ******* lorebook."0 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
You are delusional since being sick in bed and absent from game is not an excuse for exploiting. You made a donkey of yourself and are now hanging by your nails trying to save you face. You can't. So stop trying, although it inspires pity for you in my warm and caring soul, you've come out bad here, so circulate.
You're joking right. Don't you realize, that typing on a forum does not make you ten feet tall.
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
You are delusional since being sick in bed and absent from game is not an excuse for exploiting. You made a donkey of yourself and are now hanging by your nails trying to save you face. You can't. So stop trying, although it inspires pity for you in my warm and caring soul, you've come out bad here, so circulate.
You're joking right. Don't you realize, that typing on a forum does not make you ten feet tall.
You are now also incoherent, but I'm sure in your very special reality, you make perfect sense.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?1 -
Loicozor✭✭✭can you pls fix finally the invsib player
a hotfix cant be that hard if you could fix the amount of ap gaining in lik 1day..
They dont want because now all the zerg surfer got an excuse:
"oh sorry I dont zerg I just dont see the allies around me"AFK Officer of eXile Corp [DC - PC - EU] CP 1000+
Loicozor MagDK Lvl50 AR 49 Grand ScrubLord
Loiicozorr MagBlade Lvl50 AR25 BombLord
Loicozzorr Stamplar Lvl50 AR 24 JabLord
Loicozorr StamBlade Lvl50 AR 23 ProcLord
Loiicozzor StamSorc Lvl50 AR17 RapidLord
Loiicozor StamDK Lvl50 AR13 SlackLord
Loicozzor MagSorc Lvl50 AR13 PveLord
Loiicozzorr Healplar Lvl50 AR13 PveLord
Loicozerg The Fabulous StamDK Lvl50 AR2 SlackLord
Legendary Smallscalozor MagSorc Lvl 50 AR2 SlackLord
Exploitozor Exile MagDen Lvl 50 AR2 SlackLord
Loicozerg Exile StamDen Lvl50 AR2 SlackLordBig Boss The Shiny ScrubHealplar Lvl50 AR10 AD
Gankozor exile Stamblade Lvl50 AR11 EP4 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
You are delusional since being sick in bed and absent from game is not an excuse for exploiting. You made a donkey of yourself and are now hanging by your nails trying to save you face. You can't. So stop trying, although it inspires pity for you in my warm and caring soul, you've come out bad here, so circulate.
You're joking right. Don't you realize, that typing on a forum does not make you ten feet tall.
You are now also incoherent, but I'm sure in your very special reality, you make perfect sense.
The more you try and defend cheating, the more you try and change the topic, the more guilty you seem. This isn't the first time there was mass cheating, and all the excuse and all the deflecting is the same.
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yamadas✭✭✭Just ban them all and done deal.Edited by yamadas on February 11, 2017 2:23AMYamadas
Dk is Master of Shame // AR 50 (no more)
Many Alts
Necrotic Lagg
EU / PC Master Race6 -
Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
You are delusional since being sick in bed and absent from game is not an excuse for exploiting. You made a donkey of yourself and are now hanging by your nails trying to save you face. You can't. So stop trying, although it inspires pity for you in my warm and caring soul, you've come out bad here, so circulate.
You're joking right. Don't you realize, that typing on a forum does not make you ten feet tall.
You are now also incoherent, but I'm sure in your very special reality, you make perfect sense.
The more you try and defend cheating, the more you try and change the topic, the more guilty you seem. This isn't the first time there was mass cheating, and all the excuse and all the deflecting is the same.
What a jester. Please cite me defending cheating. You can't. You are just a bullying, ranting person, writing words that have no connection to reality, nor what has been written or said. You bad mouth people here with words taken straight from the air.
You attack Delph saying what she writes is BS, implying she exploited the Mine bug/exploit, and can't even applogaize for doing so when you learn she hasn't played for 3 days due to being in sickbed. Shame on you.
You do know people can be banned on the forum too, for insulting, bullying and shaming, right? Stop it and move on to something else.Edited by Idinuse on February 11, 2017 2:28AMSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Im usually a really nice guy. But this whole "lets tolerate blatant exploits" thing gets worse everytime i read these threads.
im being radicalized.
I understand. And it is frustrating. You have a right to be upset.
It's just that there are so many things that need to be looked at and resolved, that I think it's quite possible every player has either knowingly or unknowingly at one point been guilty of "exploiting" in the game. Again, whether they "intended" to "exploit" or not.
It's been made too easy for players to do.
I believe though, that it's ZOS's responsibility to determine what they "intend", but if they are unable to deliver the product as "intended", they cannot expect all their players to always be clear or up to speed on what their "intentions" are from one day to the next. They can, and should however, expect players to not try and "change" the game using things that modify the game without their approval.
And if it's all about banning people based on their intentions, I think they'd have to be able to provide solid proof that they knew what the player's intentions were at that particular moment.
Spending hours at the one and only bugged resource, is more the enough proof that they (you?) knowingly exploited.
I wasn't there. But, I don't have to defend myself. It is sadly becoming another witch hunt. But, it doesn't matter. However, I am allowed to express my opinion without having been there, am I not? What is the proof? Proof that you know what someone else is thinking? Are you working with Dionne Warwick?
This isn't a court, but it might be a pasture, because I smell a lot of bull.
I suggest you tone down your insults. You have no idea that Delph was in sick bed for 3 days, yet you try to implicate her. It's disgusting and borders bullying, so be a good kid and apologize and put your tail between your legs.
Where is that LOL button. The people making excuses for exploiting are the ones needing to apologize.
You are delusional since being sick in bed and absent from game is not an excuse for exploiting. You made a donkey of yourself and are now hanging by your nails trying to save you face. You can't. So stop trying, although it inspires pity for you in my warm and caring soul, you've come out bad here, so circulate.
You're joking right. Don't you realize, that typing on a forum does not make you ten feet tall.
You are now also incoherent, but I'm sure in your very special reality, you make perfect sense.
The more you try and defend cheating, the more you try and change the topic, the more guilty you seem. This isn't the first time there was mass cheating, and all the excuse and all the deflecting is the same.
Whata jester. Please cite me defending cheating. You can't. You are just a bullying, ranting person, writing words that have no connection to reality, nor what has been written or said. You bad mouth people here with words taken straight from the air.
You do know people can be banned on the forum to, for insulting, bullying and shaming, right? Stop it and move on to something else.
Maybe you should take a second to collect your thoughts, instead of inferring threats.
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✭So let me say this, the patch came out on the 6th. I led a group that night and over the course of the evening like always we went past BB mine and had to flip it yellow because it was blue. As we tend to stay pretty active no one paid any attention to the tick and we went on to another fire that was needed. I think we probably hit that particular resource 3 or 4 time that night. On the 7th we were back in pvp at our normal time discussing things and retaking resources when the tick passed across my screen I looked at it and thought that's kind of odd but ok no big deal maybe several players died. So we went on up to DC territory and did what we normally do and then went of course we had to go back down later and this time the tick was the same 6k. Now I'm thinking wtf is this right? asked a couple friends to come over and flip it again so we can test it. Of course I posted the bug on the bug forum. At what point did I cheat or exploit this?
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Chuga_Rei✭✭✭✭✭So let me say this, the patch came out on the 6th. I led a group that night and over the course of the evening like always we went past BB mine and had to flip it yellow because it was blue. As we tend to stay pretty active no one paid any attention to the tick and we went on to another fire that was needed. I think we probably hit that particular resource 3 or 4 time that night. On the 7th we were back in pvp at our normal time discussing things and retaking resources when the tick passed across my screen I looked at it and thought that's kind of odd but ok no big deal maybe several players died. So we went on up to DC territory and did what we normally do and then went of course we had to go back down later and this time the tick was the same 6k. Now I'm thinking wtf is this right? asked a couple friends to come over and flip it again so we can test it. Of course I posted the bug on the bug forum. At what point did I cheat or exploit this?
The moment you knew it was bugged and continued to do it.
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waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭covenant_merchant wrote: »What about just resetting the PVP-rank of all exploiters? I mean, it should be easy to find out who made striking more AP than the normal-playing people..
By the way... Haderus PC/EU today 3PM GMT+1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIjn_zdoiwo&feature=youtu.be
"Look Mom, I'm famous". But beyond that, you Sir are a snitch. And nobody likes snitches.
I like snitches when they expose exploiting pieces of poo.
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waitwhat✭✭✭✭✭LeifErickson wrote: »covenant_merchant wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »I don't want to offend anybody but in my opinion this is pathetic. I never cared much about my AP but this is completely *** and I hope that ZOS will punish people for abusing this
And it's pretty sad to see who is abusing this...
Weren't you at bb mine last night too though?LeifErickson wrote: »For the people who are abusing this exploit, you are basically saying you are playing the game to get ap instead of playing the game to have fun and actually fight other players. So if this is true, what's the point in even playing?
Have you even seen the state of pvp recently?
On PC EU, it goes as such.
Trueflame - 6- 12AM, AD 40 man group to cap the emp against 2 defenders. Gate camp until primetime, when the DC zerg logs on, and it's too laggy to play.
Haderus - Cigany or Gates of Hell or *insert random guild name* here nightcap and gatecamp. Everyone magicka dk / templar busy farming tel vars in IC and running away from fights to save their precious currency.
Azura - DC mega train vs EP mega train. Also poisons and lots of siege.
Add to that the fact that a lot of players reroll tanky 0 damage builds that work only in a massive group, and that most of the time, when you're looking for "fun" with your friends, you get zerged, I can see why so many prefer to afk and leech.
PvP dedication has no reward. Or rather, way less than what BB mine offers.
So then why are you playing this game?
I mean, that's a question we should all ask ourselves periodically, isn't it?PS4 NA AD ScourgeVivec Loading Screen Simulator 2017
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LegendaryChef✭✭✭✭✭I think the fact people are actually asking if they fall under the category of exploiting or not is just crazy. Sorry but if you knew that something was not working as intended and continued to abuse it then at least be man (or woman) enough to stand up and admit it.Zzoro/Elliot Brown/Baldy ~Kitesquad/Noricum~
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