Campaign closures for Homestead

KisoValley

Leandor wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler please for the love of all things holy, stop believing in numbers only.

Closing down both 30-day on PC EU is an atrocious decision. Pick one and leave the other. Ebony was revived in the last couple weeks and sees a lot of action.

There are players that don't want the trueflame gameplay.

This decision spoiled all the enjoyment for the extension for me. Thanks for nothing.

Ebony was revived for one day. Guess which day that was? The first day Hexys got emperor on TF (of this campaign) and was destroying everyone. Ebony has been dead since because people realised fighting Ciganys 24 man raid of stam DKS and magplars is less fun than fighting on TF.

I'm glad these changes have came, hopefully there is a bit more population in Had.

We've been playing for a month on ebony. We had lots of fun all the time. What you call "revive" was the one day when all the cheese groups were on there at the same time. Necrotic, zerg squad, achchazu, prootch zerg, even big boss. That does not constitute "reviving" in my books.

We had 2 bars or more on all factions several times with proper three faction fighting and without the cheese teams. Let those stay on TF. Leave us to our preferred kind of pvp. Of you are content with it, stay on TF.

?

Hexys is ZS and had emp on TF. He hasn't been playing Ebony.

Big Boss doesn't leave TF.

Prootch maybe, heard he's ragequit TF a few times trying to dethrone Hexys.

Necrotic again I have no clue, it's possible they tried Ebony but I doubt it.

Everytime I go ebony (which is almost daily) all I see is Cigany's 24 man DK/Templar raid capping the whole map + resources. The only time it's not like that is when a guild goes to Ebony to destroy Cigany. Either you're in Cigany's group or you're a PVEr is my guess, cause PVP on Ebony is tragic.

I'm glad Ebony is closing, the PVP on there is dead. It's just PVD for EP. Hopefully Haderus picks up and there will be another CP campaign that's decently active, not just TF.

AbraXuSeXile

Closing campaigns is a step in correct direction, now give us a reason to fight.

Sanct16

You guys realise that Haderus will still be there? If you don't want queues on TF you can still go to Haderus.

Ideally, enough people will go to Haderus (everyone that was on Haderus, Spell Breaker or Ebony before) to make it appealing for people that would usually queue to TF to try Haderus instead. It is way better to have 1 campaign with medium - medium - medium than 3 campaigns with low - low - low.

t3hdubzy

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Closing campaigns is a step in correct direction, now give us a reason to fight.

Whole heartedly agree. I think benefits outweigh the loss to some who want small scale pvp, but its a result of some underlying issues. It sounds like there are steps being taken to correct these issues, and its possible less instances could even help that. Ive seens friends in other campaigns show up on my map, that cant be healthy for my client.

The intention of cyrodil though is large scale pvp but there are still small scale areas within highly populated servers.

kylewwefan

Any plans to open up a PvE campaign? Lots of players still detest PvP

driosketch

PenguinInACan wrote: »

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

@Crispen_Longbow merging Azura's and BwB is a good idea actually.

I don't see why labeling Trueflame as the "main" campaign and Had as "overflow" or your other drastic changes to Had are warranted, though. The population reaches lock on weekends, and the map gets really active during prime time every night these days. It takes only a brief visit to see as much...

Also small scale will not be limited to battlegrounds in June. Open world will still be more unpredictable, demanding, and skillful.

I could get behind a group size reduction for all campaigns, though. 24 is monstrous in the current state of the game.

The populations on AZ can reach lock on weekends (with the map being generally equally active even with the zergs), so I don't think the servers could handle the additional populations from BWB. I also don't know what BWB is typically at population wise but i fear merging them would just cause a lot of overflow onto TF or Had.

I know most of us play on AZ because we prefer no-CP, so increasing the population (and potential queue-times) just to consolidate for the sake of consolidation I do not think would work.

Not to mention the imbalances that would happen for the non CP-160 players that get pushed over from BWB due to gear/skill availability.

BWB is usually around two bars, some factions will go 3 bars at prime time. Also, BWB tends to drift into equilibrium while AS seems to go onesided often. These populations are not compatible, despite what others think is only a minor distinction between the two.

Serjustin19

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Hey gang!

In the coming Homestead update, we will be closing several campaigns across most platforms. As always we want to ensure a healthy population exists in Cyrodiil and the campaigns noted here for closure were vastly under populated. If you’re assigned to these campaigns, you will be granted a free re-assign and rewards based on the Campaign status at the time of closure will be granted when you log in.

PC EU – The Campaigns Spellbreaker and Ebony Blade will be closing on the EU PC Realm.

Xbox NA – The Campaigns Chillrend and Skeleton Key will be closing on the Xbox NA Realm.

PS NA –The Campaigns Chillrend and Thornblade will be closing on the PS4 NA Realm.

PS EU – The Scourge Campaign will be closing on the PS4 EU Realm.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

In regards on Closing Scourge PS4 EU. Please reconsider. This is not only our 30 day CP campaign. But it is also the campaign who I love very much. I have strong feelings for this campaign. I was also very saddened when Scourge PS4 EU became accidental deletion. For 2 weeks last time.

Scourge has been my home for 2 years. Minus the 2 weeks of accidental deletion. I was one of the originals. I have been playing on DC and AD for 1 year each. Trying to save the campaign that I love. Scourge finally became balanced in this current campaign. After all my hard work and others.

Scourge Ps4 EU. Finally became of what I want all along. I'm extremely saddened for Scourge PS4 EU to close again. It not fair to be honest also. Many more are coming each day. Sadly also. If Scourge will be deleted for good. Then I'm forced to play different PvP game.

I don't want to, I love PvP on ESO. But Scourge PS4 is also the only Campaign that is playable for me. I have tried others. But I keep getting kicked out of game. All the fixes that been wrote to me in tickes not work also. I bought new static IP. Open all ports. But still will always have must have valid internet connection.

Please. I'm begging. Please reconsider on deletion of Scourge PS4 EU.

Serjustin19

LeifErickson wrote: »

@Serjustin19

Thoughts on the closing of Scourge PS4 EU?

@LeifErickson

I posted my comment. Very truly saddened. Especially when Scourge was deleted before. Due to accidental deletion.

Eirella

kylewwefan wrote: »

Any plans to open up a PvE campaign? Lots of players still detest PvP

Hopefully never.

Zaldan

AddiZ wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Hey gang!

In the coming Homestead update, we will be closing several campaigns across most platforms. As always we want to ensure a healthy population exists in Cyrodiil and the campaigns noted here for closure were vastly under populated. If you’re assigned to these campaigns, you will be granted a free re-assign and rewards based on the Campaign status at the time of closure will be granted when you log in.

PC EU – The Campaigns Spellbreaker and Ebony Blade will be closing on the EU PC Realm.

Xbox NA – The Campaigns Chillrend and Skeleton Key will be closing on the Xbox NA Realm.

PS NA –The Campaigns Chillrend and Thornblade will be closing on the PS4 NA Realm.

PS EU – The Scourge Campaign will be closing on the PS4 EU Realm.

Will Truflame have the same population lock or will you increase it?

I see que's of 100's coming, this will be a BIG turn off for many because there is already enormous que's in truflame already during prime time......

no point increasing population lock, the server cant handle more than 150 players in one location at present, increasing cap will only make things worse, although ZO$ continue to keep quiet about what the actual population caps are, probably don't want to admit how low they are compared to launch and the servers still cant cope

Subversus

[snip] rip telvar farming in the early mornings...

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LrdRahvin

Lettigall wrote: »

Damn, MMO of the year with constantly decreasing PvP population!

PVP in this game is pretty seriously broken atm.

Xexpo

ManDraKE wrote: »

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Hadreus PC NA, you are next

No way. When TF is packed where do people go?

snip... Sadly, hadreus has been death for months

lel it was pop locked or 3 bars for all alliances all last night... and all week really
pretty sure people got sick of the state of azura's and came over

edit: oh and the people who are flipping emp for ruby thrones in their houses.. they are there too.. by the 100s

Gilvoth

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

PvP is dying .

then please allow PvP in the Grazelands only in the morrowind expansion patch.
just in the Grazelands and ashlander areas around red mountain.
a note saying [you are now entering a PvP area] to allow people to choose if they wish to or not wish to PvP.
this would lessen lagg and also allow freedom to have that area PvP accepted, far better then Cryodiil and will keep PvP alive and healthy in ESO.
i am not talking about 4v4v4, that is not what i am referring to

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/318397/grazelands-pvp-please-make-the-ashlands-of-morrowind-open-pvp-zone#latest

Getsome122

Wonderful, you already ruined IC with those idiotic flags and now you're going to make telvar farming even harder by giving us less servers to go in.

Many people use the fact that we have multiple servers that are not highly populated to go cruise IC because it's not populated and have less chance of getting run over by a zerg of ***.

Thanks zeni. More news that makes me cringe as to the future of eso

Vurian97

Getsome122 wrote: »

Wonderful, you already ruined IC with those idiotic flags and now you're going to make telvar farming even harder by giving us less servers to go in.

Many people use the fact that we have multiple servers that are not highly populated to go cruise IC because it's not populated and have less chance of getting run over by a zerg of ***.

Thanks zeni. More news that makes me cringe as to the future of eso

Quit your crying. So you have to PvP in a zone that was made for PvP? SHOOOOOOOOOT! Who would've thunk it?

Getsome122

Lettigall wrote: »

Every closed server is a nail in the PvP coffin... Damn, MMO of the year with constantly decreasing PvP population!

Constantly decreasing veteran player population all around. And it's their own doing causing it

Thraben

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Hey gang!

In the coming Homestead update, we will be closing several campaigns across most platforms. As always we want to ensure a healthy population exists in Cyrodiil and the campaigns noted here for closure were vastly under populated. If you’re assigned to these campaigns, you will be granted a free re-assign and rewards based on the Campaign status at the time of closure will be granted when you log in.

PC EU – The Campaigns Spellbreaker and Ebony Blade will be closing on the EU PC Realm.

Xbox NA – The Campaigns Chillrend and Skeleton Key will be closing on the Xbox NA Realm.

PS NA –The Campaigns Chillrend and Thornblade will be closing on the PS4 NA Realm.

PS EU – The Scourge Campaign will be closing on the PS4 EU Realm.

Brian, there is a loooong queue (around 40) every day at EU PC Azura´s. EU PC Trueflame is unplayable already. Please do something!
Maybe a One-Week No CP campaign where those who actually WORK for their faction´s success instead of farming the Alessia Bridge become EMP.

sneakymitchell

those dead campaigns is just a way to get emp real quick. Now a days if u just farm at a keep with a friend on another faction or so easy ap grind. Let other campaigns fill up a little hope we don't see crazy amount of population in each campaign. And the game will be more focus on competivnise alittle.

silky_soft

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Hey gang!

In the coming Homestead update, we will be closing several campaigns across most platforms. As always we want to ensure a healthy population exists in Cyrodiil and the campaigns noted here for closure were vastly under populated. If you’re assigned to these campaigns, you will be granted a free re-assign and rewards based on the Campaign status at the time of closure will be granted when you log in.

PC EU – The Campaigns Spellbreaker and Ebony Blade will be closing on the EU PC Realm.

Xbox NA – The Campaigns Chillrend and Skeleton Key will be closing on the Xbox NA Realm.

PS NA –The Campaigns Chillrend and Thornblade will be closing on the PS4 NA Realm.

PS EU – The Scourge Campaign will be closing on the PS4 EU Realm.

You are letting these campaigns die. RIP PVP

zyk

Almost everyone I talk to very much dislikes the direction PVP has taken since 2.4 (Dark Brotherhood).

I know a lot of players who, like myself, used to play in Cyrodiil for hours every day, but now rarely play. I would say half the players in my PVP guild play only intermittently now. I consider myself to be super super casual.

Dev

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

In the coming Homestead update, we will be closing several campaigns across most platforms.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler
Any chance the servers can be re-purposed for a PVE Cyrodil/IC?

Might as well put those servers to use, and it would make a lot of people happy.

maboleth

Finally. Ebony was full of AD, fighting mostly by themselves, while AD lacked in Azura. Now we'll finally see full force AD there too. ^_^

zyk wrote: »

Almost everyone I talk to very much dislikes the direction PVP has taken since 2.4 (Dark Brotherhood).

I know a lot of players who, like myself, used to play in Cyrodiil for hours every day, but now rarely play. I would say half the players in my PVP guild play only intermittently now. I consider myself to be super super casual.

Not my experience. You wait in 40-70(!) queue for TF in the evenings, while Azura is full with everyone except AD. So, population is growing. I'd like to see the 3rd campaign without proc sets though.

Serjustin19

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Since Scourge PS4 EU is being deleted. Since Scourge is also a 30 day CP Campaign. Since Scourge came back to PS4. Due to accidental deletion. Because Scourge was our only CP 30 day Campaign. So I was wondering.

Since Scourge is going be deleted again. Possibly for good this time. Sadly. In which campaign would take over Scourge? For the CP 30 day Campaign. Or will there be no more 30 day CP campaigns. Ever?

mvffins

Homestead looks like it is going to change PvP big time with the nerfing of crit, increase ap gains for objectives, and removal of some dead campaigns. I honestly think all 3 changes are in the right direction. Nerfing Radiant destruction and magicka steal though....

Yuke

nerfing radiant is the [snip] biggest step in the right direction

and please dont derail the thread with off-topic

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maboleth

@ZOS_BrianWheeler



Take a look at the screenshot. I think we do need one more CP campaign after Homestead goes live.
Also notice that Ebony is almost full too. Without these campaigns, where will those people go? I can imagine having TF queue with +200 or more. :O

hydrocynus

GO LOOK AT EBONY ON EU RIGHT NOW @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Seriously? Too unpopulated?

And Trueflame is full!

SO where do we go now?

*sigh*

Yuke

You go Haderus

maboleth

Yuke wrote: »

You go Haderus

Sure. But with 100 people in the queue for TF and Ebony almost full, Azura full - will Haderus be enough? I don't think so.