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[VIDEO] Competitive PvP Hype!
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Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭In defense of Mojican , it's never cool to blame the victim . It just sounds like a bunch of frat boys at Alpha Cappa Rappa telling a cheerleader you knew what this was ... as they hang the tie on the outside of the dungeon door handle .
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Dorrino✭✭✭✭✭
Shouldn't you rather question what makes people want to ulti dump like that?
Unless you're being hypocritical the answer is quite obvious. Your group is a threat to the zerg of this size. Your group is capable of wiping this zerg (after 10-20 min of losing inside the tower/some other choke).
What they did they made sure you will die. And they were quite successful at it.
So basically you lost your duel vs the zerg:)
In some other circumstances your group of 5 would wipe the zerg and post a video showcasing your prowess.
Let's be frank here. A really good player can kill up to 5 average players ALONE without a lot of problems. Thus solo 'feats of skill' start at 1v6-1v7. You had 4 other people with you. I know all of them were quite good. We can infer that unless you were fighting one of the 2 best EP guild groups, 24 people zerg of average players is your typical fair encounter.
Therefore i'm not sure what you might find unfair in the video, besides that the zerg caught you unprepared.
Edited by Dorrino on January 30, 2017 9:31PM4 -
manny254✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »So what you're saying is you intentionally pissed off a larger group, and now you're upset they came to kill you? At first I was supportive of this post. But now you're just being a potato.
Congrats on killing a bomb spec magblade too btw. You've accomplished the unthinkable.
Where did I ever say I was upset? We where laughing like crazy. All I did was ask if he was aware he was zerging 2 people. Him saying he was gave me the information I wanted. Heck it made the situation even more funny to us.
Did I brag that we killed him? I just shared our perspective. From our perspective they where angry they died. Should we not include what happens because it hurt someones feelings?
You say you're not upset, but you went out of your way to call out a single guild and even name members. 10 people is apparently a zerg now too? Yeah. You're salty. If you weren't you wouldn't have gone out of your way to post all this.
Dude i personally think 5 people is a zerg. I did not call out anyone. I used it as an example to provide my point. If your friends don't want me to talk about it they should not have done it.
I named members to better explain my perspective. Once again if it bothers them they should not create that situation.
Gone out of my way? I was using an example to get my point across. You guys are the one's getting triggered. Overall I would say a lot of people have gotten triggered for nothing. While I laugh my ass off. It is even more hilarious that you genuinely can not comprehend that I am not angry.
TLDR: I posted something I found funny and zerglings got triggered.
If you personally think 5 people is a zerg then you personally are stupid. Sorry m8. You call out a specific guild by name, even using the names of those players and you think THEY'RE upset? What are you, 12? You have so much salt for them you brought them into a post which had nothing to do with them. Say you're not mad all you want. We all know the truth lol.
Called out? Dude if your guild doe not like for people to point out they zerg people then maybe they should not zerg people? Like how is that an insult? I think you are the one who is behaving like a child. Believe it or not I am not angry at all.
There is huge misconception floating around that calling someone a zerger is insult. It is simply either true or false. It does not determine their skill or intelligence. It is not something up for debate. It is not an insult or a compliment. It does not exclude people from being good players or even among the best. I can give you a great example of a player who is no longer that active. Saber ali. He was a very good player, and among the best duelers. Heck I when I was still trying to get better at the game he killed me 1v2 where I outnumbered him. From my experience though he was a stone cold zerger in open world pvp. I am not trying to insult him by saying this, I am not trying to diminish how good a player he was, but I am just telling the truth of the situation.
As I said I think 5 people is a zerg. Did you see my video. We where zerging. It would not hurt my feelings for someone to point it out. It was simply the truth. Now we do avoid outnumbering people we fight as much as possible because we want good fights and to respect our enemies. Something not often returned to us, or something we expect to always be returned.
TLDR: I prefer my BBQ to not be extra salty. I was actually just trying to share a video I found to be funny, and I didn't think a guild would get so salty about someone mentioning their common guild practices. Once again if someone is talking about those practices is an insult you should not continue them. Otherwise don't be surprised when someone brings it up.
You used a 10 man group that you intetionally goaded as an example of anti-competitive play. You could have chosen a dozen other instances which actually demonstrated your point, but you chose VE salt instead.
I don't care what you think about anything, let alone what arbitrary number does or does not constitute a zerg. (Which is actually a high skill army in an RTS mind you.) That's not what this is about. This is about you using a sheissy example in a thread because of your salt. You literally went into your bag of names to pick out salt.
The original video demonstrated your point fine. You got 40 ep responding to a resource. Now tell me again how Crispen leading a group of 10 to a resource after you whined at him is similar to that?
Umm dude did you actually read what I wrote? Please go back. I was using crispen as an example to people thinking zerging a resource would stop us from coming back. Something I remember from him trying to threaten us with being zerged.
I did not try to compare you to that group in the video. I did not comment on how competitive I think your group play is. You are simply triggered into blinding salt levels. Calm down and actually reread how I used it as an example.
So are you blind or just not looking? Look at the post where I referenced that. Also sir I would like to point out we own the resource in that video. So before getting triggered actually pay attention.- Mojican1 -
No_True_Scotsman✭✭✭✭Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lol is so stupid I can't stop laughing at myself . I've been the cheerleader so many times at those ult parties ...2 -
manny254✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol
So if 10 people attacked you by your self would you not consider that being zerged? Zerg goggles? Are your zerg goggles on? That was not a raid of 40 pm. More like 12ish. I think you need to calm down or something man. Although I would appreciate if you would admit the entire reason you got triggered by all this was you misreading what I posted, or actually try to counter any of my arguments. Such as my entire argument that you should not zerg if you find someone calling you a zergling an insult. That is is not even by nature an insult. Simply something that is true or false.
Edited by manny254 on January 30, 2017 9:31PM- Mojican2 -
Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭If I go tag a resource solo and get an entire raid to chase me down and kill me I call that a successful day in CyrodilA Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf0 -
manny254✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »If I go tag a resource solo and get an entire raid to chase me down and kill me I call that a successful day in Cyrodil
^You ran into a group larger than your own and got rolled. What's the problem here?
Nothing did you see a single complaint? Like am actually curious here. A few people have posted under the impression am complaining, but I have yet to do so.- Mojican0 -
No_True_Scotsman✭✭✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol
So if 10 people attacked you by your self would you not consider that being zerged? Zerg goggles? Are your zerg goggles on? That was not a raid of 40 pm. More like 12ish. I think you need to calm down or something man. Although I would appreciate if you would admit the entire reason you got triggered by all this was you misreading what I posted, or actually try to counter any of my arguments. Such as my entire argument that you should not zerg if you find someone calling you a zergling an insult. That is is not even by nature an insult. Simply something that is true or false.
No. That wasn't your argument. In fact, you haven't made an argument. I'm not going to try and explain to you what a propositional argument is on a video game forum. No arguments have been made lol.
And no, I would not say I was zerged. That is because I realize the term "zerg" is just a word people use when they feel they were outnumbered. Also, despite your insistence, I am not in fact "triggered". Just because someone thinks the *** you say is silly doesn't mean they're triggered.
That wasn't even remotely 12 in the video either. Perhaps it wasn't 40, but that number was rhetorical anyways. Zerg goggles apparently can also count the other direction when it's convenient too!3 -
Cahooots✭✭It's funny watching people claim they're not salty when they're so *vehemently* attacking others. Also easy to see from this thread who the people are who drop 5 ults on one person in-game
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manny254✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol
So if 10 people attacked you by your self would you not consider that being zerged? Zerg goggles? Are your zerg goggles on? That was not a raid of 40 pm. More like 12ish. I think you need to calm down or something man. Although I would appreciate if you would admit the entire reason you got triggered by all this was you misreading what I posted, or actually try to counter any of my arguments. Such as my entire argument that you should not zerg if you find someone calling you a zergling an insult. That is is not even by nature an insult. Simply something that is true or false.
No. That wasn't your argument. In fact, you haven't made an argument. I'm not going to try and explain to you what a propositional argument is on a video game forum. No arguments have been made lol.
And no, I would not say I was zerged. That is because I realize the term "zerg" is just a word people use when they feel they were outnumbered. Also, despite your insistence, I am not in fact "triggered". Just because someone thinks the *** you say is silly doesn't mean they're triggered.
That wasn't even remotely 12 in the video either. Perhaps it wasn't 40, but that number was rhetorical anyways. Zerg goggles apparently can also count the other direction when it's convenient too!
What ever man do what ever you like. Go ahead outnumber people 10 to 1. You can do what ever you would like. Just don't be insulted if someone points it out to you. If it does insult you don't do it.
This is all I am trying to get across to you. If you can't understand that logic that is your problem.- Mojican1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »
I've always wondered . Im on the forums all day because Mornin television is awful unless you like Jerry Springer . Does VE have a guild App that alerts them when someone mentions VE in a thread ? Because the response time is uncanny .
We have a special Lettuce line. All alerts go directly to the Cabbage Patch and are sorted by salt farming potential. We rotate shifts for popcorn breaks.
Seriously, people have jobs and sleep. VE is full of geezers and geezettes. There was like 10 hours until someone from VE responded. People are slacking.
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kewl✭✭✭✭✭
✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »If I go tag a resource solo and get an entire raid to chase me down and kill me I call that a successful day in Cyrodil
^You ran into a group larger than your own and got rolled. What's the problem here?
Nothing did you see a single complaint? Like am actually curious here. A few people have posted under the impression am complaining, but I have yet to do so.
So the ***Celas_Dranacea wrote: »If I go tag a resource solo and get an entire raid to chase me down and kill me I call that a successful day in Cyrodil
^You ran into a group larger than your own and got rolled. What's the problem here?
Nothing did you see a single complaint? Like am actually curious here. A few people have posted under the impression am complaining, but I have yet to do so.
Ok, cool then. Thanks for sharing.
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No_True_Scotsman✭✭✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol
So if 10 people attacked you by your self would you not consider that being zerged? Zerg goggles? Are your zerg goggles on? That was not a raid of 40 pm. More like 12ish. I think you need to calm down or something man. Although I would appreciate if you would admit the entire reason you got triggered by all this was you misreading what I posted, or actually try to counter any of my arguments. Such as my entire argument that you should not zerg if you find someone calling you a zergling an insult. That is is not even by nature an insult. Simply something that is true or false.
No. That wasn't your argument. In fact, you haven't made an argument. I'm not going to try and explain to you what a propositional argument is on a video game forum. No arguments have been made lol.
And no, I would not say I was zerged. That is because I realize the term "zerg" is just a word people use when they feel they were outnumbered. Also, despite your insistence, I am not in fact "triggered". Just because someone thinks the *** you say is silly doesn't mean they're triggered.
That wasn't even remotely 12 in the video either. Perhaps it wasn't 40, but that number was rhetorical anyways. Zerg goggles apparently can also count the other direction when it's convenient too!
What ever man do what ever you like. Go ahead outnumber people 10 to 1. You can do what ever you would like. Just don't be insulted if someone points it out to you. If it does insult you don't do it.
This is all I am trying to get across to you. If you can't understand that logic that is your problem.
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No_True_Scotsman✭✭✭✭It's funny watching people claim they're not salty when they're so *vehemently* attacking others. Also easy to see from this thread who the people are who drop 5 ults on one person in-game.
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manny254✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol
So if 10 people attacked you by your self would you not consider that being zerged? Zerg goggles? Are your zerg goggles on? That was not a raid of 40 pm. More like 12ish. I think you need to calm down or something man. Although I would appreciate if you would admit the entire reason you got triggered by all this was you misreading what I posted, or actually try to counter any of my arguments. Such as my entire argument that you should not zerg if you find someone calling you a zergling an insult. That is is not even by nature an insult. Simply something that is true or false.
No. That wasn't your argument. In fact, you haven't made an argument. I'm not going to try and explain to you what a propositional argument is on a video game forum. No arguments have been made lol.
And no, I would not say I was zerged. That is because I realize the term "zerg" is just a word people use when they feel they were outnumbered. Also, despite your insistence, I am not in fact "triggered". Just because someone thinks the *** you say is silly doesn't mean they're triggered.
That wasn't even remotely 12 in the video either. Perhaps it wasn't 40, but that number was rhetorical anyways. Zerg goggles apparently can also count the other direction when it's convenient too!
What ever man do what ever you like. Go ahead outnumber people 10 to 1. You can do what ever you would like. Just don't be insulted if someone points it out to you. If it does insult you don't do it.
This is all I am trying to get across to you. If you can't understand that logic that is your problem.
10 to 2 is actually 5 to 1.
As noted by your friend crispen I had to run away. They then 10v1'ed Mer. Can you please pay attention dude. I am tired of repeating things for you.- Mojican2 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭On a serious note , I understand Mojican posting this to have a laugh . I have a lot of video stored up on drive and have thought about posting something like this as a compilation of funny death recaps . I decided a long time ago never to post PVP videos because someone might get insulted or the humor would not translate right so I just avoid ever posting it .
We all get zerged down and Teabagged and some point . Instead of tossing around blame we should try to have a good laugh and move on as the Zerg debate will never be settled ever .1 -
No_True_Scotsman✭✭✭✭No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »No_True_Scotsman wrote: »Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they're salty manny. lol
You used an example 10 people. Realize that 99% of the PvP player base doesn't consider that a zerg. You used this after posting a video of a solid 40 PM. 10. 40. I realize zerg goggles are standard kit for like, everyone nowadays. But I assure you, 40 is actually 4 times larger than 10. lol
So if 10 people attacked you by your self would you not consider that being zerged? Zerg goggles? Are your zerg goggles on? That was not a raid of 40 pm. More like 12ish. I think you need to calm down or something man. Although I would appreciate if you would admit the entire reason you got triggered by all this was you misreading what I posted, or actually try to counter any of my arguments. Such as my entire argument that you should not zerg if you find someone calling you a zergling an insult. That is is not even by nature an insult. Simply something that is true or false.
No. That wasn't your argument. In fact, you haven't made an argument. I'm not going to try and explain to you what a propositional argument is on a video game forum. No arguments have been made lol.
And no, I would not say I was zerged. That is because I realize the term "zerg" is just a word people use when they feel they were outnumbered. Also, despite your insistence, I am not in fact "triggered". Just because someone thinks the *** you say is silly doesn't mean they're triggered.
That wasn't even remotely 12 in the video either. Perhaps it wasn't 40, but that number was rhetorical anyways. Zerg goggles apparently can also count the other direction when it's convenient too!
What ever man do what ever you like. Go ahead outnumber people 10 to 1. You can do what ever you would like. Just don't be insulted if someone points it out to you. If it does insult you don't do it.
This is all I am trying to get across to you. If you can't understand that logic that is your problem.
10 to 2 is actually 5 to 1.
As noted by your friend crispen I had to run away. They then 10v1'ed Mer. Can you please pay attention dude. I am tired of repeating things for you.
Poor mer
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✭✭✭Ah, I do remember that instance. I usually tell people to leave you guys alone, Moji, but if you're continually taking resources in the last few hours of a campaign, expect to be cleared out with extreme prejudice. Respect is a two-way street. I leave you two alone because you're not looking to fight groups like mine, in return you should avoid doing things that make you an annoyance to map-focused groups (like mine). It's really not hard.
This was the first time in god knows how long we specifically cleared you from an area (and it was for good reason) and you still made a big fuss about it. I try to give respect to smaller groups and let them play, but you made yourself an objective for guilds that play the map and then had the audacity to publicly whine about it. You really don't give me much reason or incentive to leave you alone.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »Does your group of 4-8 leave a soloer alone? Everyone x v 1's.
Honestly they are probably the only group on PC NA that does, if they know that letting you go will create a problem 30 seconds later they deal with it but for the most part they don't really 4v1 people.
This. Gotta give credit where credit is due, @manny254 and co will leave you alone if you're solo and they don't just zerg surf the AD faction. I don't understand why people are giving them crap about posting a video which is obviously just a silly/funny vid given the number of meteors cast on the guy.Invictus
Kilandros - Dragonknight / Grand Overlord
Deimos - Templar / Grand Warlord
Sias - Sorcerer / PrefectZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Short answer is DKs likely won't be seeing a ton of changes before we go live; this class is still quite powerful (as it should be being a tank), even after some of the adjustments we've made to other classes and abilities.
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manny254✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ah, I do remember that instance. I usually tell people to leave you guys alone, Moji, but if you're continually taking resources in the last few hours of a campaign, expect to be cleared out with extreme prejudice. Respect is a two-way street. I leave you two alone because you're not looking to fight groups like mine, in return you should avoid doing things that make you an annoyance to map-focused groups (like mine). It's really not hard.
This was the first time in god knows how long we specifically cleared you from an area (and it was for good reason) and you still made a big fuss about it. I try to give respect to smaller groups and let them play, but you made yourself an objective for guilds that play the map and then had the audacity to publicly whine about it. You really don't give me much reason or incentive to leave you alone.
Well for starters you did not clear us. We where back within 30 seconds, and that was the message I was trying to convey that BBQ misread. That for a group such as yours clearing us is a waste of time, and we will be back to do the same thing. So unless you want to fully commit your full raid to stopping two people you are wasting your time. Once again though. We where not complaining. I was using this as an example to my point. If you find this topic to be an insult then don't do it.
Also you guys got us off the resource, and choose to chase us anyway. So the whole argument over objective play gets lost, and even if you managed to kill both of us we would be back within a few minutes.
Another thing you seem to misunderstand is that leaving other people is about doing them a favor or something. We leave people alone because we want to allow everyone to get a fair fight if we can. We don't just leave some people. We leave everyone unless they have shown use we should kill them for self preservation. I mean I will even leave people alone who I greatly dislike. You should not be leaving people alone because they are someone with a name you recognize. You should leave people alone because you don't want to zerg them. Because winning by outnumbering people is not fun to you.
Well that is what I think at least. You can do what every you want.Edited by manny254 on January 30, 2017 10:27PM- Mojican3 -
Mr_Nobody✭✭✭✭✭Nerf Purge = fix the brainless stacking and aoe.
1 meatball and some decent aoe from 2-3 people would finish this madness. Sigh. Purge.
Do you even see how your screen looks when an enemy group is about to rush inside a keep? Blink Blink Blink Poof Blink Blink Blink Blink.0 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ah, I do remember that instance. I usually tell people to leave you guys alone, Moji, but if you're continually taking resources in the last few hours of a campaign, expect to be cleared out with extreme prejudice. Respect is a two-way street. I leave you two alone because you're not looking to fight groups like mine, in return you should avoid doing things that make you an annoyance to map-focused groups (like mine). It's really not hard.
This was the first time in god knows how long we specifically cleared you from an area (and it was for good reason) and you still made a big fuss about it. I try to give respect to smaller groups and let them play, but you made yourself an objective for guilds that play the map and then had the audacity to publicly whine about it. You really don't give me much reason or incentive to leave you alone.
Well for starters you did not clear us. We where back within 30 seconds, and that was the message I was trying to convey that BBQ misread. That for a group such as yours clearing us is a waste of time, and we will be back to do the same thing. So unless you want to fully commit your full raid to stopping two people you are wasting your time. Once again though. We where not complaining. I was using this as an example to my point. If you find this topic to be an insult then don't do it.
Also you guys got us off the resource, and choose to chase us anyway. So the whole argument over objective play gets lost, and even if you managed to kill both of us we would be back within a few minutes.
Another thing you seem to misunderstand is that leaving other people is about doing them a favor or something. We leave people alone because we want to allow everyone to get a fair fight if we can. We don't just leave some people. We leave everyone unless they have shown use we should kill them for self preservation. I mean I will even leave people alone who I greatly dislike. You should not be leaving people alone because they are someone with a name you recognize. You should leave people alone because you don't want to zerg them. Because winning by outnumbering people is not fun to you.
Well that is what I think at least. You can do what every you want.
I have a feeling that if I continuously cleared you off of resources you would choose to go somewhere else, because it's not fun play for you. I hoped you would get the message after one pass, but whether you did or not we had bigger fish to fry going forward.
The point I'm trying to make is that this is a two-way street. If you don't want to be part of the faction effort, you don't want to play the map, you just want to get fights and do your thing? Awesome. I respect that, and will generally avoid bringing my group to where you are. I even do that for rival groups when they're smaller, let em farm a resource with 5 or so people instead of clearing them out. Stomping on vastly outnumbered players isn't fun.
That's my part, you seem to be missing yours. You were a small group but at that point in the campaign, because of ZoS' stupid point system, you crossed over into objective based play. And objectives are where the big groups play. So either you realized that and took the risk, or you wandered into it unknowingly and got run over; in either case, that's not on me and I find you complaining about it to be silly and pointless.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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GloryClass RepresentativeGhost-Shot wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »Does your group of 4-8 leave a soloer alone? Everyone x v 1's.
Honestly they are probably the only group on PC NA that does, if they know that letting you go will create a problem 30 seconds later they deal with it but for the most part they don't really 4v1 people.
This. Gotta give credit where credit is due, @manny254 and co will leave you alone if you're solo and they don't just zerg surf the AD faction. I don't understand why people are giving them crap about posting a video which is obviously just a silly/funny vid given the number of meteors cast on the guy.
I miss when people could post funny things on the forums
Everyone is just supposed to go "dang Mojican you suck get better at ESO" and have themselves a good ol gigglemDK will rise again.
Rebuild Necromancer pet AI.
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Lore_lai✭✭✭✭✭ebethke_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »Darnathian wrote: »Does your group of 4-8 leave a soloer alone? Everyone x v 1's.
Honestly they are probably the only group on PC NA that does, if they know that letting you go will create a problem 30 seconds later they deal with it but for the most part they don't really 4v1 people.
This. Gotta give credit where credit is due, @manny254 and co will leave you alone if you're solo and they don't just zerg surf the AD faction. I don't understand why people are giving them crap about posting a video which is obviously just a silly/funny vid given the number of meteors cast on the guy.
I miss when people could post funny things on the forums
Everyone is just supposed to go "dang Mojican you suck get better at ESO" and have themselves a good ol giggle
IKR!!!
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✭✭Ah, I do remember that instance. I usually tell people to leave you guys alone, Moji, but if you're continually taking resources in the last few hours of a campaign, expect to be cleared out with extreme prejudice. Respect is a two-way street. I leave you two alone because you're not looking to fight groups like mine, in return you should avoid doing things that make you an annoyance to map-focused groups (like mine). It's really not hard.
This was the first time in god knows how long we specifically cleared you from an area (and it was for good reason) and you still made a big fuss about it. I try to give respect to smaller groups and let them play, but you made yourself an objective for guilds that play the map and then had the audacity to publicly whine about it. You really don't give me much reason or incentive to leave you alone.
Well for starters you did not clear us. We where back within 30 seconds, and that was the message I was trying to convey that BBQ misread. That for a group such as yours clearing us is a waste of time, and we will be back to do the same thing. So unless you want to fully commit your full raid to stopping two people you are wasting your time. Once again though. We where not complaining. I was using this as an example to my point. If you find this topic to be an insult then don't do it.
Also you guys got us off the resource, and choose to chase us anyway. So the whole argument over objective play gets lost, and even if you managed to kill both of us we would be back within a few minutes.
Another thing you seem to misunderstand is that leaving other people is about doing them a favor or something. We leave people alone because we want to allow everyone to get a fair fight if we can. We don't just leave some people. We leave everyone unless they have shown use we should kill them for self preservation. I mean I will even leave people alone who I greatly dislike. You should not be leaving people alone because they are someone with a name you recognize. You should leave people alone because you don't want to zerg them. Because winning by outnumbering people is not fun to you.
Well that is what I think at least. You can do what every you want.
I have a feeling that if I continuously cleared you off of resources you would choose to go somewhere else, because it's not fun play for you. I hoped you would get the message after one pass, but whether you did or not we had bigger fish to fry going forward.
The point I'm trying to make is that this is a two-way street. If you don't want to be part of the faction effort, you don't want to play the map, you just want to get fights and do your thing? Awesome. I respect that, and will generally avoid bringing my group to where you are. I even do that for rival groups when they're smaller, let em farm a resource with 5 or so people instead of clearing them out. Stomping on vastly outnumbered players isn't fun.
That's my part, you seem to be missing yours. You were a small group but at that point in the campaign, because of ZoS' stupid point system, you crossed over into objective based play. And objectives are where the big groups play. So either you realized that and took the risk, or you wandered into it unknowingly and got run over; in either case, that's not on me and I find you complaining about it to be silly and pointless.
At no point did I ever complain Steve. I asked Crispen if he was aware that it was only two of us. I was confused that you guys decided to chase us after we where clearly off the resource. I was not angry I simply wanted to know if you realized that, and at no point in any of this back and forth have I complained. Additionally Mer did actually hold respect for you guys. So asking that was us giving you the benefit of the doubt that you made a mistake.
Well it is good to know that you would prioritize holding up a group of two players. From the sounds of it we are some of the best at playing objectives if we can hold up a whole group with 2 players. Thanks for letting us know we would be that important in that situation. Just so you understand you would not discourage us from coming back. Keeping a group tied up like that is it's own reward. So unless you plan to spend your entire raid night zerging two people down I would not advise it. Although if that is your cup of tea so be it.Edited by manny254 on January 30, 2017 11:16PM- Mojican0 -
Bazeric✭✭✭✭Well, I'm glad to see forum PVP is still more fun than Cyrodiil PVP.
I just wanted to say, "I'm impressed. I have fallen victim to a dual meteor/EotS maybe once before... but a triple meteor... exemplary!"Looking for broken things in hopes they may be fixed. I've given up, my game literally works differently from yours.
64M+ AP across 9 toons... kinda makes me a GO1
