lighting in houses needs to be fixed before Homestead goes live!

Serjustin19

Osteos wrote: »

I hope they change it back. I wont buy a house if its going to be dark like that.

I was checking out the Ebonheart Manor. Even when Ebonheart Manor was fully furnished. Especially with a lot of candles and lamps. The Ebonheart Manor still looks gloomy inside. It making me thinking. If I should look at the other houses instead.

I was a bit disappointed. But I understand why for performance. I also half way through getting the Ebonheart Hero title. Since I was originally saving up and by Ebonheart Manor. In future. But after seeing the lightning on pts server inside Ebonheart Manor. I put a hold on Hero title. Until later. If I decide to buy it anyways in future.

MLGProPlayer

Will ZOS fix this bug or leave it and claim it's a "new feature" to help improve performance?

MLGProPlayer

Serjustin19 wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

I hope they change it back. I wont buy a house if its going to be dark like that.

I was checking out the Ebonheart Manor. Even when Ebonheart Manor was fully furnished. Especially with a lot of candles and lamps. The Ebonheart Manor still looks gloomy inside. It making me thinking. If I should look at the other houses instead.

I was a bit disappointed. But I understand why for performance. I also half way through getting the Ebonheart Hero title. Since I was originally saving up and by Ebonheart Manor. In future. But after seeing the lightning on pts server inside Ebonheart Manor. I put a hold on Hero title. Until later. If I decide to buy it anyways in future.

Performance was fine before they changed it. I was getting 100 fps on max settings inside the houses.

Elara_Northwind

There is also another strange bug I have discovered in the houses over the last couple of days. Each time I enter my house and go into housing editor, my weapons vanish, and the only way to get them back is to fast travel somewhere else and then fast travel back in again... Could be annoying if you plan to duel friends at home, if you have invisible weapons and have to keep travelling in and out

MLGProPlayer

Still not fixed. No acknowledgement of the bug from ZOS either.

Incognitius

They did fix the bug SadieJoan mentions above, but nothing about the lighting bug that has already generated 6 threads by different people.

And don't even get me started about the items (also crown items!) that keep dissapearing.

Elara_Northwind

Nope, its still really bad. I went straight onto the pts to see if the lighting had been fixed, was very disappointing I don't understand why ZOS have said nothing about this problem, its not as though its something small, it is a really huge issue. It's almost like it is, in fact, intended to be this way! I really hope that is not the case, because as excited as I am for this update, there is no way I will be wasting my gold or money on housing in its current state.

The book of furnishing recipes is still broken too, and with characters all being reset again with the patch, it is no longer possible to decorate the houses on pts. Its impossible to try it out using only the crown store, unless you planned ahead and purchased just a few items a day, because they cost too much... I guess they want us to spend the rest of our time on the pts farming furniture plans to furnish our dark houses...

MLGProPlayer

Incognitius wrote: »

And don't even get me started about the items (also crown items!) that keep dissapearing.

Is that STILL not fixed? Because for the second straight patch, they said they fixed it.

Myrrah

i have been working on strident springs demesne and it appears to be fixed there i haven't made it to any of the others i noticed it in but that was one that was drearily effected and doesn't seem to be anymore. If this is indeed fixed-thank you!

MLGProPlayer

myrrahshezoe_ESO wrote: »

i have been working on strident springs demesne and it appears to be fixed there i haven't made it to any of the others i noticed it in but that was one that was drearily effected and doesn't seem to be anymore. If this is indeed fixed-thank you!

That's strange. Strident Springs was never affected by the bug for me. It was fine for the OP of this thread too.

Off the top of my head, the Dunmer medium and large house had the issue before this patch, and they still do.

I hope the bug isn't affecting random houses for random people.

Myrrah

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

That's strange. Strident Springs was never affected by the bug for me. It was fine for the OP of this thread too.

Off the top of my head, the Dunmer medium and large house had the issue before this patch, and they still do.

I hope the bug isn't affecting random houses for random people.

Wow-that's really strange. Yes-on this one, it was bright and cheery one day and dim and depressing the next. hmmm-i didn't work on either of the ones you mentioned. The others that seemed horrible to me were old mistveil manor and domus phrasticus. I'll go check those. Maybe it just didn't effect this house this time

edit: Nvm. I logged out and back in. this one is doing it now. Maybe putting in something in particular sets it off (it doesn't seem as bad however)

MLGProPlayer

myrrahshezoe_ESO wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

That's strange. Strident Springs was never affected by the bug for me. It was fine for the OP of this thread too.

Off the top of my head, the Dunmer medium and large house had the issue before this patch, and they still do.

I hope the bug isn't affecting random houses for random people.

Wow-that's really strange. Yes-on this one, it was bright and cheery one day and dim and depressing the next. hmmm-i didn't work on either of the ones you mentioned. The others that seemed horrible to me were old mistveil manor and domus phrasticus. I'll go check those. Maybe it just didn't effect this house this time

edit: Nvm. I logged out and back in. this one is doing it now. Maybe putting in something in particular sets it off (it doesn't seem as bad however)

Damn. Looks like it's random, or triggered by a specific furnishing as you say. It's going to be hard to identify the trigger. Hopefully ZOS cares enough to fix it by next week, but I'm not optimistic.

Elder_III

The farther we get into the PTS the more I'm thinking I might just buy one small house to test and leave the rest of my gold (and crowns) in my virtual wallet. Housing was my most looked forward to DLC/Update since Beta.... I am honestly disappointed. Not nerd rage, just genuinely sad at how this has been implemented (along with bugs etc.).

Incognitius

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Incognitius wrote: »

And don't even get me started about the items (also crown items!) that keep dissapearing.

Is that STILL not fixed? Because for the second straight patch, they said they fixed it.

Furnishings were still dissapearing Sunday, and as its not mentioned in the patch notes, I don't think it's fixed.

Oh, and lighting is much better for some houses during the day, and only gets bad at night.
Other houses that are dark all the time, are always bad, such as the Dunmer medium and large houses.

MLGProPlayer

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Incognitius wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Incognitius wrote: »

And don't even get me started about the items (also crown items!) that keep dissapearing.

Is that STILL not fixed? Because for the second straight patch, they said they fixed it.

Furnishings were still dissapearing Sunday, and as its not mentioned in the patch notes, I don't think it's fixed.

Oh, and lighting is much better for some houses during the day, and only gets bad at night.
Other houses that are dark all the time, are always bad, such as the Dunmer medium and large houses.

From the latest patch notes:

Fixed an issue that could cause recently placed furnishings to disappear from your home.

But that's what they said last time too.

ixie

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

From the latest patch notes:

Fixed an issue that could cause recently placed furnishings to disappear from your home.

But that's what they said last time too.

Let's hope it's fixed, though I wouldn't bet on it, particularly as I had an item go missing during 2.7.3 that I'd placed in 2.7.2

Elara_Northwind

myrrahshezoe_ESO wrote: »

i have been working on strident springs demesne and it appears to be fixed there i haven't made it to any of the others i noticed it in but that was one that was drearily effected and doesn't seem to be anymore. If this is indeed fixed-thank you!

Strident Springs (along with a few others) were never affected for me either. The ones that were, still are, in fact it looked worse for me, but that could have just been my disappointment exaggerating it in my mind

Incognitius

Elder_III wrote: »

The farther we get into the PTS the more I'm thinking I might just buy one small house to test and leave the rest of my gold (and crowns) in my virtual wallet. Housing was my most looked forward to DLC/Update since Beta.... I am honestly disappointed. Not nerd rage, just genuinely sad at how this has been implemented (along with bugs etc.).

That's exactly how I feel. I went from farming motifs to get enough money to buy Hundings Palatial, to burning it all on Akaviri motif chapters, when I realized I'd be better off buying a small house when I tried furnishing multiple houses on the PTS.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

From the latest patch notes:

Fixed an issue that could cause recently placed furnishings to disappear from your home.

But that's what they said last time too.

Yeah, I'd missed that. I guess I'll have to test it again. Will be tricky without characters that can learn full furnishing plans. But I'll guess I'll just buy all the houses furnished for 1 crown per piece, and borrow from them. :P

Zariah

The Lighting inside the Ravenhurst still doesn't work.

Everything is dark and horrible, unless you acually get close to the lightning sorce. I was lucky that it was day right now so I could acually see -anything-. But it gets so damn dark in there when it is in the middle of the night. Please fix this before launch. I dont want to have a house filled with darkness that I can only be inside during the days to be able to see anything.

How it is normally:


How it suddenly lights up when close to the lightsorce, 1 step closer then the previous picture.

Silver_Strider

ZO$ won't fix it.
They'll leave it as is and add a Crown Crate exclusive item called Shalidor's illuminated Light fixtures that will fix it

Myrrah

Silver_Strider wrote: »

ZO$ won't fix it it.
They'll leave it as is and add a Crown Crate exclusive item called Shalidor's illuminated Light fixtures that will fix it

made me laugh out loud for reals

Elara_Northwind

Zariah wrote: »

The Lighting inside the Ravenhurst still doesn't work.

Everything is dark and horrible, unless you acually get close to the lightning sorce. I was lucky that it was day right now so I could acually see -anything-. But it gets so damn dark in there when it is in the middle of the night. Please fix this before launch. I dont want to have a house filled with darkness that I can only be inside during the days to be able to see anything.

How it is normally:


How it suddenly lights up when close to the lightsorce, 1 step closer then the previous picture.

I hate this so much! This house was one of my favourites and yet it seems the worst effected by this

I was really looking forward to decorating this place and playing around in here with different ideas, but its just not possible... I'm not sure I would even risk buying this home on live (as well as MOST of the others too) as there is now no way of knowing whether lighting will be reverted back to how it was at the start of the pts, with so little time left until homestead is released...

If it doesn't get fixed during the small amount of time left on the pts, I will be holding off on buying any house I think, until I know that this has been fixed.

Kazya

What I honestly don't understand, is why they don't fix it. With how much so many have tried to tell them that it just don't work properly and that it is not good at all... one would have thought it would have been in their interest to fix it.

And if it is some bug which they can't seem to find the trigger on, than atleast tell us that and let us know they are working on it.

*sighs and cross out another house* I really did like that house too..

manavortex

Which houses are properly working? Is there a list?
I'll not get any of the infected ones.

Osteos

I went on the pts and previewed a lot of the houses and the lighting was fine in all of them. Is this only when you are decorating? I noticed that some houses, Mournoth, had some light fixtures present that weren't there originally. I was wondering if moving those was causing the problems.

MLGProPlayer

Osteos wrote: »

I went on the pts and previewed a lot of the houses and the lighting was fine in all of them. Is this only when you are decorating? I noticed that some houses, Mournoth, had some light fixtures present that weren't there originally. I was wondering if moving those was causing the problems.

These are the houses that do not seem affected by the bug (taken from the post by @SadieJoan):

-Grymharth's Woe
-Kragenhome
-Mathiisen Manor
-Cliffshade
-Dawnshadow
-Strident Springs Demesne
-Domus Phrasticus
-Captain Margaux's Place
-Hammerdeck End
-Gardner House
-Mournoth Keep
-Twin Arches
-House of the Silent Magnifico

Having said that, one of the posters above had the bug with Strident Springs, so it might be random.

Myrrah

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

I went on the pts and previewed a lot of the houses and the lighting was fine in all of them. Is this only when you are decorating? I noticed that some houses, Mournoth, had some light fixtures present that weren't there originally. I was wondering if moving those was causing the problems.

These are the houses that do not seem affected by the bug (taken from the post by @SadieJoan):

-Grymharth's Woe
-Kragenhome
-Mathiisen Manor
-Cliffshade
-Dawnshadow
-Strident Springs Demesne
-Domus Phrasticus
-Captain Margaux's Place
-Hammerdeck End
-Gardner House
-Mournoth Keep
-Twin Arches
-House of the Silent Magnifico

Having said that, one of the posters above had the bug with Strident Springs, so it might be random.

it's definately not as bad in strident springs as some of the others though. so there's that and i did have the problem in domus phrasticus as well. Am going to go work on decorating that one now to see if it happens again

Incognitius

I had problems with both Domus Phrasticus and Twin Arches. Most prominently when it's dark outside. But nowhere near the problems I had with Velothi Reverie.
Wouldn't know about the rest, didn't try to decorate them.

When buying a house, it is wise to buy one that already has a light(er) interior without any lamps.

MLGProPlayer

Myrrah wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

I went on the pts and previewed a lot of the houses and the lighting was fine in all of them. Is this only when you are decorating? I noticed that some houses, Mournoth, had some light fixtures present that weren't there originally. I was wondering if moving those was causing the problems.

These are the houses that do not seem affected by the bug (taken from the post by @SadieJoan):

-Grymharth's Woe
-Kragenhome
-Mathiisen Manor
-Cliffshade
-Dawnshadow
-Strident Springs Demesne
-Domus Phrasticus
-Captain Margaux's Place
-Hammerdeck End
-Gardner House
-Mournoth Keep
-Twin Arches
-House of the Silent Magnifico

Having said that, one of the posters above had the bug with Strident Springs, so it might be random.

it's definately not as bad in strident springs as some of the others though. so there's that and i did have the problem in domus phrasticus as well. Am going to go work on decorating that one now to see if it happens again

It's definitely bad though lol. The screenshot you posted shows a bunch of lights thaf aren't emanating. It's just a lighter house than some.of the other ones.

Elara_Northwind

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

I went on the pts and previewed a lot of the houses and the lighting was fine in all of them. Is this only when you are decorating? I noticed that some houses, Mournoth, had some light fixtures present that weren't there originally. I was wondering if moving those was causing the problems.

These are the houses that do not seem affected by the bug (taken from the post by @SadieJoan):

-Grymharth's Woe
-Kragenhome
-Mathiisen Manor
-Cliffshade
-Dawnshadow
-Strident Springs Demesne
-Domus Phrasticus
-Captain Margaux's Place
-Hammerdeck End
-Gardner House
-Mournoth Keep
-Twin Arches
-House of the Silent Magnifico

Having said that, one of the posters above had the bug with Strident Springs, so it might be random.

I went to all of the houses at several different times of day, and tested with several different light sources, to get those results, but I did notice that the large Nord house was still affected after making this post though, it was a Nord chandelier which had a whitish coloured light that made it appear to be ok ( it seems lighting with white colouring can make the bug unnoticeable) but after removing the chandeliers in that house, I had the bug, even after I had replaced them it remained...

The houses in that list, I have never encountered the bug in, strident springs (the house that I intend to buy when this update goes live) I have never seen this bug happen in either (some of the houses are unnecessarily dark at certain times of day, but the funny lighting bug does not occur in them, and the darkness can be overcome with stupid amounts of lighting placed down, the homes with the bug will never be light, no matter how many lights you use, I have tried 100s in the Breton house, covering the entire floor with the brightest braziers I could find,and with chandeliers on the ceiling too, and it was STILL dark ) but even so, I will not be buying a house until I know this is fixed! Because even if the house that I personally want seems currently unaffected, it is still too dark and will likely take 100+ lights to brighten it up, and who knows what it will be like on live, especially if this 'bug' is actually intended...