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nMA should give you green/blue weapons at the end

  • Kammakazi
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    Yes they should.













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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Drop the weapons yes. But with no enchants on them.
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  • ScooberSteve
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    Normal is super easy so you deserve nothing
    Edited by ScooberSteve on January 24, 2017 11:26PM
  • Sigtric
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    If nMA dropped the MS Weapons, hardly anyone would do the vet version. As painful as VMA/weapon farming is, I don't see this as a good change.

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  • Dawnblade
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    Maybe if the drops were always training / prosperous (no chance at combat related traits) or low level (non CP 160) items or were not improvable

    Otherwise saying normal should have a chance to drop the same weapon as vet is silly as no one is going to bother with vet if the only thing they need to do is run normal and then use some tempers to improve the drops.
  • Metafae
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    Lol, maybe if the weapon you got were only training, and would break after a while.
  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    Normal is super easy so you deserve nothing

    The mages questline from Skyrim was super easy and I wand up getting the archmage robes and shoes :)
  • LiquidSchwartz
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    Absolutely not. L2p don't ask for a handout ez mode BIS weapon that tons of people worked for hours to earn
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  •  Panda_iMunch
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    At best, it should get a gimped cp150 version that is 10%+ less effective than the normal one.
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  • mr_wazzabi
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    I'm just saying nMA should give us something at the end, and not some crappy title. We should get a weapon with an increase rate of Training and Prosperous (50 to 60%) trait for fairness.

    Why don't you just get good and beat vma like the rest of us with maelstrom weapons did? Not fair to those of us that died 100000 times trying to get our first clear only to grind 10000000 times to get the sharpened weapon we want
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  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    I'm just saying nMA should give us something at the end, and not some crappy title. We should get a weapon with an increase rate of Training and Prosperous (50 to 60%) trait for fairness.

    Why don't you just get good and beat vma like the rest of us with maelstrom weapons did? Not fair to those of us that died 100000 times trying to get our first clear only to grind 10000000 times to get the sharpened weapon we want

    Because I'm lazy and I want to do things the easy way. Due to ZOS's TOS I can't hire a veteran vMA player like you to access my account, and do it for me. Account sharing is against the rules so I'm out of luck in that department.

    I would even pay for a sharpened inferno staff/Daggers/Bow with gold if it wasn't BOP.

    I'm just a lazy ESO player.
    Edited by raidentenshu_ESO on January 25, 2017 12:51AM
  • mr_wazzabi
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    I'm just saying nMA should give us something at the end, and not some crappy title. We should get a weapon with an increase rate of Training and Prosperous (50 to 60%) trait for fairness.

    Why don't you just get good and beat vma like the rest of us with maelstrom weapons did? Not fair to those of us that died 100000 times trying to get our first clear only to grind 10000000 times to get the sharpened weapon we want

    Because I'm lazy and I want to do things the easy way. Due to ZOS's TOS I can't hire a veteran vMA player like you to access my account, and do it for me. Account sharing is against the rules so I'm out of luck in that department.

    I would even pay for a sharpened inferno staff/Daggers/Bow with gold if it wasn't BOP.

    I'm just a lazy ESO player.

    Lol clearly you don't deserve those weapons then. Vma is the hardest content in the game, so the weapons should only be in the hands of those that earned them.

    If you're asking for tokens to be given out from beating vma so you can use them to buy weapons, I'm all for it.

    There's no easy lunch as many say. You want something, you gotta work for it
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  • Metafae
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    I'm just saying nMA should give us something at the end, and not some crappy title. We should get a weapon with an increase rate of Training and Prosperous (50 to 60%) trait for fairness.

    Why don't you just get good and beat vma like the rest of us with maelstrom weapons did? Not fair to those of us that died 100000 times trying to get our first clear only to grind 10000000 times to get the sharpened weapon we want

    Because I'm lazy and I want to do things the easy way. Due to ZOS's TOS I can't hire a veteran vMA player like you to access my account, and do it for me. Account sharing is against the rules so I'm out of luck in that department.

    I would even pay for a sharpened inferno staff/Daggers/Bow with gold if it wasn't BOP.

    I'm just a lazy ESO player.

    M8, I've been running vMA since it came out and I still haven't got a sharp inferno. Just learn the content if it matters that much to you. It's only insanely hard for the first completion, it gets easier the more you do it.
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    It could offer CP150 level weapons. I'd be fine with that.
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  • simeion
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    I like this idea, but not the exact way you are describing! I would never drop from normal, I would suggest making veteran just a little easier by reducing mob damage. It is insane being hit by three quick shots and dying. This modicifaction would still allow a random drop at the end. I would then add a new version for those good, called Elite MA. This would drop a random weapon but allow user to pick a trait. Make this new version do 25% more damage and 15% more hit point to mobs and minor bosses and major bosses get a 35% increase in hit points with a max resistance.

    This being said I also would like to see a trade in system made where you have to trade in 5 vMA mauls ( just for example) for another maul with a different trait than any of the other ones you traded.
  • Beardimus
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    There really is no need for this, Normal is pretty easy, once you have done it a few times and get the mechanics, sure its hard when you are new, it as you level / learn the game Normal is very easy to complete. It would flood the game with weopons, it's a bad idea.

    VMSA is a great challenge, and that aside people need a reason to get better and try harder to complete it and when they do, to return.

    I really wonder why everyone calls with everything to be made easier in this game, to have it all. What's wrong with a bit of effort.
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  • ArchMikem
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    No way. That's like saying normal dungeons should drop monster helms and purple jewelry.

    Vet Dungeons already drop purple crap. The OP wants nMA to drop crappier versions of the vMA rewards, not the same.

    Here's a better suggestion, raise the difficult of nMA somewhat, then have crappier versions of the rewards drop. Savvy?
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  • AtraisMachina
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    No
    Edited by AtraisMachina on January 25, 2017 1:29AM
  • laksikus
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    i did grind most of my chars to level 10 in nMSA

    did it by spaming gap closers, which oneshot most things...
  • Bandit1215
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    Non, then thee would be NO reason to do vMA, because nMA is SOO much easier.
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  • Thornen
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    Lol weapons on normal MA, why not just hand them out at login... seriously a blind deaf and limbless 5 year old can complete it on normal mode..
  • Dubhliam
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    Only with 100% training traits.
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  • Dubhliam
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    I'm just saying nMA should give us something at the end, and not some crappy title. We should get a weapon with an increase rate of Training and Prosperous (50 to 60%) trait for fairness.

    Why don't you just get good and beat vma like the rest of us with maelstrom weapons did? Not fair to those of us that died 100000 times trying to get our first clear only to grind 10000000 times to get the sharpened weapon we want

    Because I'm lazy and I want to do things the easy way. Due to ZOS's TOS I can't hire a veteran vMA player like you to access my account, and do it for me. Account sharing is against the rules so I'm out of luck in that department.

    I would even pay for a sharpened inferno staff/Daggers/Bow with gold if it wasn't BOP.

    I'm just a lazy ESO player.

    If you admit you are too lazy to Git Gud, why do you feel entitled to a best weapon in the game?

    What will you do with it if you are too lazy to play the game?
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  • Lukums1
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    Metafae wrote: »
    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    I'm just saying nMA should give us something at the end, and not some crappy title. We should get a weapon with an increase rate of Training and Prosperous (50 to 60%) trait for fairness.

    Why don't you just get good and beat vma like the rest of us with maelstrom weapons did? Not fair to those of us that died 100000 times trying to get our first clear only to grind 10000000 times to get the sharpened weapon we want

    Because I'm lazy and I want to do things the easy way. Due to ZOS's TOS I can't hire a veteran vMA player like you to access my account, and do it for me. Account sharing is against the rules so I'm out of luck in that department.

    I would even pay for a sharpened inferno staff/Daggers/Bow with gold if it wasn't BOP.

    I'm just a lazy ESO player.

    M8, I've been running vMA since it came out and I still haven't got a sharp inferno. Just learn the content if it matters that much to you. It's only insanely hard for the first completion, it gets easier the more you do it.

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  • J2JMC
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    The obsession from players to lock gear behind content difficulty is interesting. I get why developers want it. Makes them more money and extends the game life-no brainer. But from a competitive gamer standpoint it seems odd. I mean does it really feel good to think you're better than a player because of the gear you have that gives you a mathematically easier time to complete content? Mind you OP did not say make vMA easier. He simply asked for ZOS to open up gearing options to a variety of players.

    Someone else having a title or special weapon doesn't take away from a person's accomplishments. I guess some online gamer's egos are so large and fragile that they need status symbols to feel better about themselves. Honestly I say let them have the weapons. If I lose a leaderboard spot to someone who initially couldn't beat vMA, or get smashed in pvp by that person, it simply means I was getting carried by gear.

    For those who use game life or positive reinforcement as a defense for locking gear behind content/levels this post is not aimed at you. I personally think it's a *** defense and hope a greater mind than mine can figure out ways to extend game life beyond loot hunting but for now it's the best we have in an mmo and when done right is a fun design. However, for those saying people shouldn't be allowed to have mathematically superior weapons because they're not "good enough" or "didn't put the time in" get over yourselves lol. I got a sharpened dagger(maybe axe have to check) around my fifth time completing it 2 months after wrothgar release while players who are much better than me in my guild are still looking for one to this day.
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  • GawdSB
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    If normal gave a weapon everyone would just farm that because it's so much easier.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    The current system is broken as ***.

    You need to run vMA on average 500 times to get the sharpened weapon you want.

    With that said, the solution isn't to give away the weapons in normal mode. We need a *** token system.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 25, 2017 3:44AM
  • Taleof2Cities
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    I'd be OK with set weapons from Orsinium ... but not Maelstrom weapons in normal.

    OP knows that he can just upgrade a blue or green weapon to gold without any effort ... so troll thread sensors are going off.
  • DigitalShibby
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    The current system is broken as ***.

    You need to run vMA on average 500 times to get the sharpened weapon you want.

    With that said, the solution isn't to give away the weapons in normal mode. We need a *** token system.

    Guess I lucked out, my one and only vma clear dropped the sharpened staff I wanted.. never going back there xD
  • Sovaso
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    Just nerf vMA
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