Suggestion/Feedback for the Practice Dummy

code65536

1. Health: 3 million feels a bit low. It's the same health as Blood Spawn, but Blood Spawn is not a very good test target (it's popular only because of the ease of reaching it). Please make the health 5 million (same health as Maw of the Infernal in BC2).
2. Minor Slayer: It's unaffected by Minor Slayer. This makes it a bit harder to do comparative testing of different gear setups, but most importantly, Minor Slayer is not a strictly multiplicative 5% bonus but is instead a 5% bonus that is additive with other damage bonuses such as execute bonus and Minor Berserk. So one cannot simply multiply their results by 5%. Ideally, this quirk of Minor Slayer's calculation should be fixed so that it behaves in a way that is more consistent with what its tooltip suggests (and so that it no longer suffers such a huge "execute penalty"). But until that happens, the dummy really needs to be affected by Minor Slayer for there to be proper DPS testing.
3. Respawn time is too fast: The dummy respawns very quickly, sometimes right into lingering ground DoTs, which makes repeated testing a bit more of a hassle. Please increase the respawn time a little bit--just 10 or 15 more seconds would go a long ways here--and/or give us a way to manually trigger the respawn (e.g., an interactive prompt where the user presses E for respawn).
4. Cost and Accessibility: I'm okay with much of the costs involved with housing because they're cosmetic and don't affect gameplay. But the practice dummy is the one exception, as it's a vital tool with tangible effects on gameplay. @ZOS_RichLambert, you've said that one of your goals this patch is to narrow the wide gulf between the bottom ant the top. The problem is that much of that gulf is the result of player experience. Placing a valuable training tool outside of the reach of most players--and almost all new players--is the exact opposite of what you should be doing. People at the top usually have guilds and friend lists full of people who can help them hold Blood Spawn or Maw for a bit so that they can try something out or practice. Practice dummies are an opportunity to open up possibilities for those at the bottom. Don't squander this by making it so prohibitively expensive to acquire.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @Wrobel @ZOS_Finn

kojou

I totally agree with 1-3, I feel the same way on all counts.

I hope and expect that there will be other training dummy recipes in the future, perhaps where a boss' bust is the ingredient and the dummy takes on the characteristics (and head) of that boss... IMO that would be an awesome feature. Want to see what your DPS is against the Manticore's resistances and health? Create a Manticore target dummy. I think with One Tamriel all of the resistances were standardized, but I can't remember for sure if it is the same for trials and dungeons...

Number 4 will be annoying in the beginning, but everybody will have one as soon as a few people get the recipe. You don't need the recipe itself, just find someone with it. I'm sure It won't be long before they are sold in Rawl'ka zone chat.

code65536

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I totally agree with 1-3, I feel the same way on all counts.

I hope and expect that there will be other training dummy recipes in the future, perhaps where a boss' bust is the ingredient and the dummy takes on the characteristics (and head) of that boss... IMO that would be an awesome feature. Want to see what your DPS is against the Manticore's resistances and health? Create a Manticore target dummy. I think with One Tamriel all of the resistances were standardized, but I can't remember for sure if it is the same for trials and dungeons...

Number 4 will be annoying in the beginning, but everybody will have one as soon as a few people get the recipe. You don't need the recipe itself, just find someone with it. I'm sure It won't be long before they are sold in Rawl'ka zone chat.

The animus stone requires 50 master writ vouchers. Plus a lot of other mats. It wouldn't be out of reach for me. But then again, I've been played for almost 2 years and also have people I can call on give Blood Spawn a little poke. Casual players and new players will not even have access to doing master writs for a while, much less accumulate the amount of vouchers needed to buy the animus stone.

This is one of the best tools to help close the huge gulf between experienced and new players, and it's far out of reach for the audience that needs it the most.

idk

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I totally agree with 1-3, I feel the same way on all counts.

I hope and expect that there will be other training dummy recipes in the future, perhaps where a boss' bust is the ingredient and the dummy takes on the characteristics (and head) of that boss... IMO that would be an awesome feature. Want to see what your DPS is against the Manticore's resistances and health? Create a Manticore target dummy. I think with One Tamriel all of the resistances were standardized, but I can't remember for sure if it is the same for trials and dungeons...

Number 4 will be annoying in the beginning, but everybody will have one as soon as a few people get the recipe. You don't need the recipe itself, just find someone with it. I'm sure It won't be long before they are sold in Rawl'ka zone chat.

Agree completely though minor slayer was likely an oversight and I expect Zos is already working in an incremental patch for this.

As for crafting the test dummy, it's a novel idea and once guildies have the schematic we can get it crafted for free, just hand over the matts.

Duckbutta

ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »

I totally agree with 1-3, I feel the same way on all counts.

I hope and expect that there will be other training dummy recipes in the future, perhaps where a boss' bust is the ingredient and the dummy takes on the characteristics (and head) of that boss... IMO that would be an awesome feature. Want to see what your DPS is against the Manticore's resistances and health? Create a Manticore target dummy. I think with One Tamriel all of the resistances were standardized, but I can't remember for sure if it is the same for trials and dungeons...

Number 4 will be annoying in the beginning, but everybody will have one as soon as a few people get the recipe. You don't need the recipe itself, just find someone with it. I'm sure It won't be long before they are sold in Rawl'ka zone chat.

All dungeons/trials bosses have the same resist (18.2k) so a "Manticore" training dummy wouldn't be any different than the one already available except for health. I think what a lot of people would like to see is more customization, at least with health, and possibly other debuffs and/or resistances.

Artis

Agree.

I would also add that it'd be nice if we could setup a set of buffs(with uptimes) and debuffs during each attempt, so we could test DPS with full raid buff, partial buff or simply self-buffed.

Moloch1514

If they keep it this difficult to obtain, at least offer it in the Crown store for an option to save time and mats. That is one offering that would be PAWS friendly I'd think.