2.7.1 Freezes Mac

Pangnirtung

No go on my iMac with the latest update.

I get to my character select screen, choose one of my toons and the ESO load screen starts, chevron stops and Mac spinning beachball spins endlessly.

Another week of NOT being able to play PTS on mac.

Windshadow_ESO

I have a vision of the Mac client team consisting of one elderly programer (of the punch cards and Fortran IV and Cobal sort) who once in a great while sighs ... puts down her knitting... and reads a few Mac Client issues internal memos then puts some feed into the hamster wheel to provide power to a 2004 first gen Intel Mac computer and makes a few uncommented changes to the source code and goes back to her knitting. She cant test the changes as her ancient Mac can not run the current client version so it will be a week or two before she looks at it again....

Horowonnoe

Seriously? And i was hoping to explore and test some things this week...
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
Any updates?

Khajiit has wares, if you have PTS for le macs

stevepdodson_ESO888

Windshadow_ESO wrote: »

I have a vision of the Mac client team consisting of one elderly programer (of the punch cards and Fortran IV and Cobal sort) who once in a great while sighs ... puts down her knitting... and reads a few Mac Client issues internal memos then puts some feed into the hamster wheel to provide power to a 2004 first gen Intel Mac computer and makes a few uncommented changes to the source code and goes back to her knitting. She cant test the changes as her ancient Mac can not run the current client version so it will be a week or two before she looks at it again....

ahh...those were the day...it was great using COBOL and sitting inside the computer to eat lunch...yes inside

punch cards were awesome...drop them on th floor and spend the rest of the day sorting them out again so you could batch run your program

i think i still have an old punch card machine somewhere

Windshadow_ESO

stevepdodson_ESO888 wrote: »

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Windshadow_ESO wrote: »

I have a vision of the Mac client team consisting of one elderly programer (of the punch cards and Fortran IV and Cobal sort) who once in a great while sighs ... puts down her knitting... and reads a few Mac Client issues internal memos then puts some feed into the hamster wheel to provide power to a 2004 first gen Intel Mac computer and makes a few uncommented changes to the source code and goes back to her knitting. She cant test the changes as her ancient Mac can not run the current client version so it will be a week or two before she looks at it again....

ahh...those were the day...it was great using COBOL and sitting inside the computer to eat lunch...yes inside

punch cards were awesome...drop them on th floor and spend the rest of the day sorting them out again so you could batch run your program

i think i still have an old punch card machine somewhere

The big trick with punch card decks was to take a marker pen and draw a diagonal line across the edges of the cards... this shows any out of sequence cards... (and as the card sorter on the PDP-10 that my university had for student use was broken most of the time it was a vital trick you learned first week of freshman year). Don't forget the Class id card and the Batch process card... come back the next day to get your output run and find it rather shorter than it should be with
<<<<SYNTAX ERROR IN LINE 20>>>>
then you go and stand in line in the dorm stairwell for your turn at the ancient IBM punchcard machine.... Rinse and Repeat.

It is a bit depressing to have this as my vision of the Mac Client team I admit.

Pangnirtung

Thieves Guild on the PTS would freeze the ESO app whenever it rained. It took about two weeks for them to fix it.

Hopefully things will be up and running next week for the mac crowd.

Windshadow_ESO

I dont really mind that they back burner work on the Mac client with a small cadre of mac programers. they have to allocate their coding assets where the vast bulk of their assets reside in the windows and consoles market.

BUT I wish they would be up front with us about things... tell us that

" the client for MacOS is not ready and don't bother downloading it until it is we will let you know"

would be a good start

In addition an explanation of what the problem is would be entertaining... I bet a lot of former programers play this game and many will have picked the Macintosh due to its UNIX core to the OS and some of us might be able to provide useful tips if we were let in on the actual problems.

Pangnirtung

Windshadow_ESO wrote: »

I dont really mind that they back burner work on the Mac client with a small cadre of mac programers. they have to allocate their coding assets where the vast bulk of their assets reside in the windows and consoles market.

BUT I wish they would be up front with us about things... tell us that

" the client for MacOS is not ready and don't bother downloading it until it is we will let you know"

would be a good start

In addition an explanation of what the problem is would be entertaining... I bet a lot of former programers play this game and many will have picked the Macintosh due to its UNIX core to the OS and some of us might be able to provide useful tips if we were let in on the actual problems.

^^^ Exactly what he said.

It's obvious that nothing was done with the mac client.

Why have us waste our time and bandwidth for this if it isn't working?

Windshadow_ESO

I don't think we can say nothing was done as a client does exist and it went up at the same time as the Windows Client.

What we can say for sure that what ever Alpha testing was done on it beyond does it launch and function as far as the char select and creation areas was either nonexistent or fraudulent (as in the person who was in charge of that work passed it on to PTS release saying it was good to go beta level software.)

Windshadow_ESO

Well its still non usable for Mac with todays patch. but they do let us know that in the patch notes

In this patch, we’ve copied all PC EU characters for use in testing. Please note we are still working on a fix for our players on Mac who are running into consistent game crashes.

Pangnirtung

I tried getting in with my iMac today if only to view the houses available and was able to do that.

Admittedly it's only with a template character and I didn't try to do anything like add CP points but at least I got in the game.

I think that I will hold off on any further trips to the PTS until ZOS announces that the game is at least playable on Macs.

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO

any news here? got the same problem - on a new character skill points freeze on the old ones the mother of all loading screens.
Chance to get any testing done: ZERO

agegarton

I am bumping this.

Since the last PTS patch, I can't even get beyond the character loading screen - I'm just getting a critical client crash.

Any news? @ZOS_GinaBruno ? Anyone......?

Afafrenferr

If you read the Overview latest patch notes for PTS, they "hope" to have it fixed before the update goes live, which leads one to believe there is a possibility that Mac users might not be around on Feb 6th...

Here's the thread that's received some attention from Gina.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/312158/pts-character-load-issues-possibly-mac-related-with-workaround#latest

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO

well given that my subscription is coming up for renewal, the only thing left - until this issue is resolved - is to cancel it, AGAIN

@ZOS you really don't want my money, do you?

agegarton

So, no testing or playing around if you have a Mac. Awesome.

Pangnirtung

agegarton wrote: »

So, no testing or playing around if you have a Mac. Awesome.

Yup. So it's been what? Three weeks now and Mac players are shut out?

Windshadow_ESO

Downloading now todays patch Fingers crossed because Gina did not say (as she did for the last one ) "mac users don't bother" or words to that effect

Windshadow_ESO

well it's not a playable client for Mac but I can get in this time and see new crashes that I can report via the system (some of the time) so if you enjoy alpha level debugging and log submissions go ahead but if you want to Beta test an almost real build then don't bother

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO

yeah, don't bother ... still freezes on loading screen

agegarton

Mac. Still off. That is all.

agegarton

Yep, still broken.........still no response.........

Horowonnoe

rip

Delpi

I want to say that it has nothing to do with template or not characters, even if you login with a template char, it crash when you tried to use inventory or bank or skills or..... anything that it's not moving around doing nothing.

This problem has been around for various patches and I'm worried because the release is near. Please, @ZOS_GinaBruno could you update us with some news about this?

HereKittehKitteh

I just don't think we're going to get an update at all. We haven't heard anything for I think two weeks now, it just feels like we've been forgotten about

agegarton

Just checking in to see if we have been forgotten .........



......... yep. Still forgotten.

agegarton

.........cough cough.

Still broken.


I deny that I'm continually bumping this thread.

Pangnirtung

The lack of updates on the Mac makes me suspicious that little to nothing is being done to fix the problem before Feb. 6

Well, ZOS loses a subscriber if Mac is still broken upon release. No point in subscribing if I can't get in game.

Afafrenferr

Sometimes silence can tell you all you need to know....

HereKittehKitteh

Afafrenferr wrote: »

Sometimes silence can tell you all you need to know....

^ YUP!

If I don't hear anything by the 1st (the day before my eso plus renews) I'm going to cancel it. Guess I'll be back to PS4 until they bother to fix this issue in like 6 months time at this rate. We're not asking for much! At least reassurances that we haven't been forgotten, you're trying to get this issue fixed, letting us know that it may be a possibility that it won't be fixed in time for live, because a I guarantee you ZOS everyone in this thread who has ESO plus will cancel, and seeing as money appears to be the only motivation for you guys perhaps this will provide some motivation towards fixing this issue.

THERE! My 6am uncaffeinated rant that probably doesn't make much sense XD

agegarton

Still crashes.

Still no update.

Still a bit annoyed.