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Warden class incoming?

Scallan
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It's been datamined, recently, that the old skill lines from the scrapped Warden class have now reemerged in the game files.

Not only that, but the new PTS update for Frost Staves has added a lot of defensive/tanky abilities such as:

"This passive ability now taunts the enemy after you use a fully-charged Frost Heavy Attack."

"This passive ability now causes your block to drain Magicka (instead of Stamina) and stops your Magicka Recovery (instead of Stamina Recovery) while blocking when you have a Frost Destruction Staff equipped."

"Frost Staves: Increases the amount of damage you Block by 10/20%, and reduces the cost of Block by 15/30%."


Additionally, ZOS came out with the Stalhrim Frostcaster armor this December, which definitely fits the whole frost mage/tank aesthetic. This isn't compelling evidence in and of itself, but it's interesting to say the least.

So from what I have learned, the Warden class was meant to be a mix of Ice, and Nature power but with a defensive bent. From the evidence we've received so far, it's not too gigantic of a reach to think that ZOS is looking to implement the Warden class from the beta back into the game.

It makes sense too. We have Sorcerers who use lightning based abilities, Dragonknights who use flame abilities, but frost has been seriously underused since game launch. Not only does the Warden class specialize in it, but it would give some much needed love to frost magic in general.

What do you guys think? Personally, I'd love to have a class that uses frosty abilities, and just speculating about this gets me excited!
  • Pixel_Zealot
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Heck, they'd have me paying $100 a month if they hired Alcast, Fengrush, Sypher, Deltia, Yolowizard, and a lot of simply smart people to make changes. People who play the game.

    This.

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  • Brrrofski
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    Hopefully not.

    Just stop a second. Look at how imbalanced classes are now. Why add more into that? They need to balance the current 4 classes first.
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  • 1mirg
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    Personally, I hope they don't just copy/paste the class back in. That class needed some desperate tweaking and fixes. I'm still happy they're going to put it back in but I am extremely cautious about how they'll implement it back into the game.
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  • Artemiisia
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    was thinking the same when I saw that frost staff changes, and it will be a great addition to it, since in the last 2 years frost staves has been a for fun item to use :)
  • Faulgor
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    There are currently no plans for another class.

    Translating for Wrobel: this is something we are thinking about - as we have since launch - but no plans for the immediate future.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/546mo4/welcome_to_the_one_tamriel_eso_ama/d7zdnhm/?context=3

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  • SublimeSparo
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    I've a sneaky suspicion they are going to *gasp* replace the nightblade class with the warden class.
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  • Olysja
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    no.
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  • Scallan
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    Faulgor wrote: »
    There are currently no plans for another class.

    Translating for Wrobel: this is something we are thinking about - as we have since launch - but no plans for the immediate future.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/546mo4/welcome_to_the_one_tamriel_eso_ama/d7zdnhm/?context=3

    Take that how you will, but that's the most recent word on the matter.

    I see what you are saying, but "immediate" is the keyword here.

    I can see them adding a new class by the end of the year, especially since they're working on new DLC (Vvardenfell and Clockwork City have been datamined) as we speak.
  • DHale
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    It was never data mined. This was old before PC launch before 2014. The warden class was changed into Templar. So you already have it. Ta da. Now will still need to balance the first four... that is supposed balance patch... the real one with buffs not nerfs. Where skills are equal not just things blown apart for no apparent reason.
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  • idk
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    @Scallan

    It would also mean a frost based warden dps could be a real problem since the heavy attack is a taunt. Omg, the videos of a boss being taunt immune because a frost warden heavy attacked the boss off the tank will be hilarious.

    Of course the warden could avoid putting points into that one passive.
  • Malamar1229
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Heck, they'd have me paying $100 a month if they hired Alcast, Fengrush, Sypher, Deltia, Yolowizard, and a lot of simply smart people to make changes. People who play the game.

    This.

    hell no :) no offense, after reading some of these players post, I would not recommend it, dont get me wrong they are amazing at what they do and great at sharing and helping people which I love.

    But like one of them said in another post, he would rather have crafting for BiS gear, that would mean all dropped sets would be worthless. Another said they would make rng easier in vMal just to get sharpened traits, they would remove everything that gives abit of a grind.

    Sure that seems great at first, but if we all had the best BiS always, what the heck would you play the game for, it would remove progression so fast and game would get borring

    I would play to do the things I enjoy, not spend the majority of time grinding in order play what I enjoy (Cyrodiil).
  • Scallan
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    DHale wrote: »
    It was never data mined. This was old before PC launch before 2014. The warden class was changed into Templar. So you already have it. Ta da. Now will still need to balance the first four... that is supposed balance patch... the real one with buffs not nerfs. Where skills are equal not just things blown apart for no apparent reason.

    If you had read my original post and the link provided within it, you would know that the Warden skills have reemerged in the game files. I'm well aware that the class was present in the beta.
  • DHale
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    Scallan wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    It was never data mined. This was old before PC launch before 2014. The warden class was changed into Templar. So you already have it. Ta da. Now will still need to balance the first four... that is supposed balance patch... the real one with buffs not nerfs. Where skills are equal not just things blown apart for no apparent reason.

    If you had read my original post and the link provided within it, you would know that the Warden skills have reemerged in the game files. I'm well aware that the class was present in the beta.

    I did read your original post. I always do my due diligence. Since I have first hand seen this "new data set" about three years ago unless they are just literally sending the same info again. There is literally nothing new. Now that wouldn't surprise me as ZOS is ZOS but I would not bet a single penny.

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  • FleetwoodSmack
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    DHale wrote: »
    Scallan wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    It was never data mined. This was old before PC launch before 2014. The warden class was changed into Templar. So you already have it. Ta da. Now will still need to balance the first four... that is supposed balance patch... the real one with buffs not nerfs. Where skills are equal not just things blown apart for no apparent reason.

    If you had read my original post and the link provided within it, you would know that the Warden skills have reemerged in the game files. I'm well aware that the class was present in the beta.

    I did read your original post. I always do my due diligence. Since I have first hand seen this "new data set" about three years ago unless they are just literally sending the same info again. There is literally nothing new. Now that wouldn't surprise me as ZOS is ZOS but I would not bet a single penny.

    I'll echo this point in another way; Datamining is NOT gospel. Some (a decent number) things have been datamined in the past, and that was it. That's all that happened with those things. They never made it to live, and files off and on tend to get removed/replaced, blah, blah,maintenance stuff, blah. Don't hold your breath. Unless there's bold print by Gina herself, I'm not counting anything in regard to it.
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  • exeeter702
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    DHale wrote: »
    Scallan wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    It was never data mined. This was old before PC launch before 2014. The warden class was changed into Templar. So you already have it. Ta da. Now will still need to balance the first four... that is supposed balance patch... the real one with buffs not nerfs. Where skills are equal not just things blown apart for no apparent reason.

    If you had read my original post and the link provided within it, you would know that the Warden skills have reemerged in the game files. I'm well aware that the class was present in the beta.

    I did read your original post. I always do my due diligence. Since I have first hand seen this "new data set" about three years ago unless they are just literally sending the same info again. There is literally nothing new. Now that wouldn't surprise me as ZOS is ZOS but I would not bet a single penny.

    I beleive he is referring to the reemerged data that came about with the 1t patch.

    Still hardly indicative of anything honeslty.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    @Scallan, I certainly hope you are right. I've been wondering myself as well. If they do add this I'll certainly be very excited, and very hopeful they let us get more character slots. I don't desire to delete anything I have currently, and I'm at the character limit. Playing as a Frost-tank Nord or Altmer Warden though actually does sound rather compelling, and I'm very hopeful that they make this happen. The lack of a class with frost element built into it has been pretty obvious since the start, and quite a few people have commented on that (including myself). I'll just cross my fingers for now.
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  • lihentian
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    i hope there will be a necromancy summon line~~
  • starkerealm
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    lihentian wrote: »
    i hope there will be a necromancy summon line~~

    There already is... on the forums.
  • Scallan
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    @Scallan, I certainly hope you are right. I've been wondering myself as well. If they do add this I'll certainly be very excited, and very hopeful they let us get more character slots. I don't desire to delete anything I have currently, and I'm at the character limit. Playing as a Frost-tank Nord or Altmer Warden though actually does sound rather compelling, and I'm very hopeful that they make this happen. The lack of a class with frost element built into it has been pretty obvious since the start, and quite a few people have commented on that (including myself). I'll just cross my fingers for now.

    I agree! I've been wanting to roll a Nord frost mage for forever, so I'm really hoping they add this class in!
  • Artis
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    Hopefully not and please stop mentioning that. It might seem to ZOS that that's what players want when instead a lot of us would rather have new skill lines available to everyone and/or the removal of all classes at all. I mean, without the class change of course I'm actively against new classes. What if I like the new class, then what? Not only I'm forced to delete one of my alts to even try the class, but I'll also have to grind out 22k achievement points until I stop feeling like I'm wasting time and not progressing because I"m just trying to catch up with the progress I have already made, but for some weird reason it's not displayed on my character and I can't use titles and can't craft motifs I already grinded, bought and learned.

    In fact, I suggest ZOS implements and automoderator who will ban everyone using "warden" and "class" in one paragraph/post for breaking the forum rules.
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    Edited by Artis on January 4, 2017 10:59PM
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