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PTS Feedback Thread for Cyrodiil & Imperial City Itemization Improvements

  • SwaminoNowlino
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    Vyle_Byte wrote: »
    What improvements? Zero improvements were made to cyrodiil to ic. Changes were made to vendors, but that's hardly the same thing.

    Hmm maybeeee try reading the title :D This thread is literally about the "itemization" improvements...
    "PTS Feedback Thread for Cyrodiil & Imperial City Itemization Improvements"

    The only things that changed for itemization are the jewelry and weapons for sets in IC. Black Rose was the only set adjusted.None of the other sets changed. Itemization is a kind of misused term anyways, in that it differs among dev teams, so I guess it depends on the usage of the term. So agree to disagree I reckon.

    "Itemization can be defined as the relationship between balance and uniqueness of items"

    http://blackshellmedia.com/2015/12/04/itemization/

    Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden

    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
  • ZOS_BrianWheeler
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    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.
    Wheeler
    ESO PVP Lead & Combat Lead
    Staff Post
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Thanks Brian. Huge wave of relief.
    Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden

    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
  • DRXHarbinger
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    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Please, Blackrose in Robust and Arcane only, No healthy required, best of both....please I have a pretty awesome Trollplar planned now but requires Arcane jewelry. do not care if each box costs 100k telvar. ( Blazing shield will not be included fyi, I will just cut you all down the old fashioned way )
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  • kadar
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    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Please, Blackrose in Robust and Arcane only, No healthy required, best of both....please I have a pretty awesome Trollplar planned now but requires Arcane jewelry. do not care if each box costs 100k telvar. ( Blazing shield will not be included fyi, I will just cut you all down the old fashioned way )

    If it was just you planning this, I would plead and beg you, please don't spread the toxins. But I'm a realist and I know everyone will be doing this, so. Please publish build on youtube and forums. If everyone is toxic it's almost like no one is? lol.
  • Erynyes
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    How much do the bags cost in towns?

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    Shri'Neerune magblade
  • Koolio
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    Gold Willpower or Agilty?
  • silky_soft
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    Most of the jewelry will have a 50/50 chance choosing between Healthy and either Robust or Arcane. In a few cases, they RNG to get any of the three traits for sets that span the gap between Stam builds & Mag builds. We are looking at feedback during PTS for this patch to determine if we need to expand some sets to include all three traits for their jewelry.

    I opened 200 bags of blackrose. 0 robust 0 arcane
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not paying 45 : lol :
    Netch is free with a cleanse and free magika. You nerf siphon into the ground. Nice balance team.
    How do you go home every night and say, I did a great job at work today. You actually do your job properly.
    Step 1: roll templar. Step 2: level up jabs. Step 3: slap on weapon damage build. Step 4: que for bg. Step 5: leap...jabsjabsjabsjabs
  • silky_soft
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    Ah I see second post. Nice.

    You know what actually, just add it. Who cares anyway. You buffed etos
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not paying 45 : lol :
    Netch is free with a cleanse and free magika. You nerf siphon into the ground. Nice balance team.
    How do you go home every night and say, I did a great job at work today. You actually do your job properly.
    Step 1: roll templar. Step 2: level up jabs. Step 3: slap on weapon damage build. Step 4: que for bg. Step 5: leap...jabsjabsjabsjabs
  • Ishammael
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    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Brian, pls help PvP and game balance.
    You're our only hope.
  • kadar
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Brian, pls help PvP and game balance.
    You're our only hope.

    Yes, help us Obi-Brian-Kanobi, you're our only hope!
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Brian, pls help PvP and game balance.
    You're our only hope.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/FileUpload/61/7618611e426eb4fe605de1735b6cad.jpg&quot; />

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler
    Xbox NA : CP 160 StamPlar, MagNB, MagSorc, StamSorc, StamDK, StamNB, Level 10 MagDK & MagPlar, StamWarden, MagWarden

    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
  • geonsocal
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    Koolio wrote: »
    Gold Willpower or Agilty?

    I'm guessing no...just the current tel var armor sets...

    hey pts type folks - how many stones do the gold jewelry bags sell for, and, can you target specific armor/jewelry sets...

    really looking forward to some nice phoenix bling...

    and yes, people do still wear the phoenix set...why? cuz, it's a big, bad dangerous world out there for us folks who still like to go out there fighting in our pajamas...
    Edited by geonsocal on January 5, 2017 9:03PM
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  • olsborg
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    Most of the jewelry will have a 50/50 chance choosing between Healthy and either Robust or Arcane. In a few cases, they RNG to get any of the three traits for sets that span the gap between Stam builds & Mag builds. We are looking at feedback during PTS for this patch to determine if we need to expand some sets to include all three traits for their jewelry.

    You should not under any circuimstances do heavy armor sets like blackrose or reactive with arcane or robust jewlery.

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  • Ishammael
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Brian, pls help PvP and game balance.
    You're our only hope.

    <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/FileUpload/61/7618611e426eb4fe605de1735b6cad.jpg&quot; />

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Haha

    Can you do Darth Wrobel vs Obi-Brian-Kenobi?
  • Wizzo91
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    @ZOS_BrianWheeler

    Can you please fix the horrendous RNG on the Zone Bags? We need the split them up in jewelry, weapon type, small and large armor pieces to make them worthwhile.

    Oh yea, and remove training and prosperous from the loot table please.
    [EU]

    Wizzo - Stamina DK - 50 - DC
    Wizzox - Magicka NB - 50 - DC
    Vilest Wizz - Magicka Sorc - 50 - DC
    Wiser Wizz - Magicka NB - 50 - DC
    Wizzo X - Magicka NB - 50 - AD
    In Rainbows - Stam Sorc - 50 - AD
    Fake Plastic Tree - Stamplar - 50 - EP

    6XX CP

  • silky_soft
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    Edited by silky_soft on January 5, 2017 10:08PM
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not paying 45 : lol :
    Netch is free with a cleanse and free magika. You nerf siphon into the ground. Nice balance team.
    How do you go home every night and say, I did a great job at work today. You actually do your job properly.
    Step 1: roll templar. Step 2: level up jabs. Step 3: slap on weapon damage build. Step 4: que for bg. Step 5: leap...jabsjabsjabsjabs
  • Paraflex
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    Black rose and Reactive access on Templars will be a very toxic and unhealthy for PvP. Brian have you guys considered toning down these sets if you allow access to jewelry. The builds and flavor of the month cancer sets will be very bad for PvP.

    It's not so much one set is super strong it's the combination of Reactive/Black Rose with a monster set like Malubeth that will be a living nightmare to kill. It's super defensive with insane recovery allowing ways to create dps burst with destro staff builds.

    Don't let the forums cry about this new cancer for the next 4 months. By allowing jewelry on all IC sets as they stand.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler
    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • Paraflex
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    If jewelry for Black Rose and Reactive get all types of Stam/Arcane/Healthy it will be bad for PvP. Just keep these sets to healthy so it's less attractive to use as it's heavy armor. You will just promote more crazy builds if Stam/Arcane are allowed into the jewelry.
    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • Paraflex
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    Black rose Stam users will all want robust jewelry to stack Stam and get better healing with more dps....we don't need this

    Reactive Templars will want Arcane to get better heals and better dps....we don't need this
    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • ZOS_BrianWheeler
    ZOS_BrianWheeler
    PvP & Combat Lead
    While some Tel Var sets on PTS are currently getting a combination of Healthy and Arcane or Robust, it's likely they will follow One Tamriel item patterns where jewelry compliments the armor type.

    EG In cases of Black Rose, Reactive, and Harbinger; these are Heavy sets and would follow the pattern of having just Healthy jewelry. In cases like Shield Breaker, they will offer just Robust rings and necklaces (even though currently on PTS they offer Healthy and Robust).

    Also note the one exception to this case is Physique of the Imperium, which has always been offered in Light, Medium and Heavy. Rings and necklaces will be offered in Arcane, Healthy and Robust for that set alone.
    Edited by ZOS_BrianWheeler on January 5, 2017 10:34PM
    Wheeler
    ESO PVP Lead & Combat Lead
    Staff Post
  • silky_soft
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    While some Tel Var sets on PTS are currently getting a combination of Healthy and Arcane or Robust, it's likely they will follow One Tamriel item patterns where jewelry compliments the armor type.

    EG In cases of Black Rose, Reactive, and Harbinger; these are Heavy sets and would follow the pattern of having just Healthy jewelry. In cases like Shield Breaker, they will offer just Robust rings and necklaces (even though currently on PTS they offer Healthy and Robust).

    Also note the one exception to this case is Physique of the Imperium, which has always been offered in Light, Medium and Heavy. Rings and necklaces will be offered in Arcane, Healthy and Robust for that set alone.

    Thanks for confirmation. No one cares about physique unless you're emp.
    Here $15, goat mount please. Not paying 45 : lol :
    Netch is free with a cleanse and free magika. You nerf siphon into the ground. Nice balance team.
    How do you go home every night and say, I did a great job at work today. You actually do your job properly.
    Step 1: roll templar. Step 2: level up jabs. Step 3: slap on weapon damage build. Step 4: que for bg. Step 5: leap...jabsjabsjabsjabs
  • geonsocal
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    very cool stuff...but:
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    just wondering if it's gonna take me weeks, months or years to be able to afford them...

    i'm hanging out in IC now farming away, but, although i'm only an average tel var/AP farmer type - i want nice things too :)
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  • Vanthras79
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    Most of the jewelry will have a 50/50 chance choosing between Healthy and either Robust or Arcane. In a few cases, they RNG to get any of the three traits for sets that span the gap between Stam builds & Mag builds. We are looking at feedback during PTS for this patch to determine if we need to expand some sets to include all three traits for their jewelry.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler and here I thought you were too busy working on top secret PvP venues.. You know what Brian, I may just give you an Argonian name for fun. How's 'Stands-in-the-Ashes'? Because someone has to stand in the ashes of the Imperial City project, most of the time it is dead. Okay that may have been too harsh. But here is an idea, If Imperial City and the sewers were solo content (outside of the dungeons) more people may venture in the city, and more PvP may take place there.

    Was my criticism too harsh? Perhaps. But I want to see the Heart of Tel Var beat again with some life of PvP they way it did during the original opening and the one year holiday.

    You can do this Mr. Wheeler, you got to for Imperial City's sake.
    Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.

  • geonsocal
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    Vanthras79 wrote: »
    Most of the jewelry will have a 50/50 chance choosing between Healthy and either Robust or Arcane. In a few cases, they RNG to get any of the three traits for sets that span the gap between Stam builds & Mag builds. We are looking at feedback during PTS for this patch to determine if we need to expand some sets to include all three traits for their jewelry.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler and here I thought you were too busy working on top secret PvP venues.. You know what Brian, I may just give you an Argonian name for fun. How's 'Stands-in-the-Ashes'? Because someone has to stand in the ashes of the Imperial City project, most of the time it is dead. Okay that may have been too harsh. But here is an idea, If Imperial City and the sewers were solo content (outside of the dungeons) more people may venture in the city, and more PvP may take place there.

    Was my criticism too harsh? Perhaps. But I want to see the Heart of Tel Var beat again with some life of PvP they way it did during the original opening and the one year holiday.

    You can do this Mr. Wheeler, you got to for Imperial City's sake.

    totally agree...

    not to get too far off topic...but, if changes to IC itemization are made and no one really cares or notices - what's the point?

    IC needs some serious help...most week days it's fairly empty - and that's on the most populated map on ps4...

    some how, some way - IC needs to be it's own map/campaign and all the pvp platform players need to be funneled into just one IC map...otherwise, it needs to be released to all players, regardless of whether they've purchased the dlc...

    I would imagine those walking horrors in there are getting a little bored walking around by themselves all the time...
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  • Paraflex
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    Thanks Brian for your feedback!
    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • DRXHarbinger
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    "Most"... meaning currently Imperial Physique has jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust. We will be looking into all of the Tel Var sets to determine if they will also offer jewelry in Arcane, Healthy and Robust.

    Please, Blackrose in Robust and Arcane only, No healthy required, best of both....please I have a pretty awesome Trollplar planned now but requires Arcane jewelry. do not care if each box costs 100k telvar. ( Blazing shield will not be included fyi, I will just cut you all down the old fashioned way )

    If it was just you planning this, I would plead and beg you, please don't spread the toxins. But I'm a realist and I know everyone will be doing this, so. Please publish build on youtube and forums. If everyone is toxic it's almost like no one is? lol.

    All it was, Blackrose Arcane gems and DW Sharp Swords, 5 Soulshine ( 3 inf 2 div ) and......Chokethorn...jab jab jab ( epic heals ) hit me bruh ah look at that juicy resource return... few points in healing received boosts Chokethorn nicely.

    PC Master Race

    1001CP
    8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
    Master Angler
    Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
    Tamriel Hero
    Grand Overlord
    Every Skyshard
    Down With BOP!
  • geonsocal
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    geonsocal wrote: »

    hey pts type folks - how many stones do the gold jewelry bags sell for, and, can you target specific armor/jewelry sets...
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    Edited by geonsocal on January 6, 2017 8:48PM
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  • Bowser
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    Gold jewelry bags are available for specific sets and cost 100k tel var each.
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    Play how you want - no meta allowed!
  • geonsocal
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    Bowser wrote: »
    Gold jewelry bags are available for specific sets and cost 100k tel var each.

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    okay then, 300k for the set (if i'm lucky and it drops two rings and a necklace)...that's sorta doable...

    not so lucky last night (i hate the sewers and mostly farm up top, very few players from my alliance) and pulled a whopping 3k stones in a couple hours...this might just fit into more of a looooong term build upgrade thing...
    Edited by geonsocal on January 6, 2017 11:40PM
    PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place
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