Last boss in vet direfrost keep

akl77

Is she tauntable?
What's the stamina cost to break free?

My healer is setup with all magicka attributes, so stamina is just 10k, and I just can't break free.
When I switch to back bar I have 11k stamina and break free instantly.

lardvader

akl77 wrote: »

Is she tauntable?
What's the stamina cost to break free?

My healer is setup with all magicka attributes, so stamina is just 10k, and I just can't break free.
When I switch to back bar I have 11k stamina and break free instantly.

Well I think the cost is aprox 11k. As healer I always do this fight with stam or tri pots ready to have enough stam. I also use tri stat food so I have aprox 15k stam on my healer.

DRXHarbinger

11k to break free.....lol l2breakfree. It's near half that.

SickDuck

You should be able to break free about twice on a max level character with 10k stamina approx.

Boss seem to ignore taunt most/all of the time and attack people randomly. She does not hit hard so it's just up to the healer to sort it out. Some HOTs like regen works fine there.

The fight is not hard if people know the mechanics but it's long and tedious. The sucking skill that heals her is too strong imho. Could easily be halved from 10% of her max health to 5%.

DannyLV702

You should be able to break free with 10k stam. The tricky part about this boss for a magic player is that you really can't be dodge rolling or blocking at all without a source of stamina recovery, like shards. I also recommend stamina potions for this boss if you're a magic player and you're struggling.

akl77

Thanks for the tip

akl77

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

susmitds

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

Wut? Finished vet hard mode no death speed run on my first try after One Tamriel.

DRXHarbinger

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

Just watch your stamina. You don't need to dodge or block anything in there just walk away when it teleports. That's the only attack that hits hard the rest is just a 6k light attack.

VarilRau

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

And this is exactly why i hate groups that need 561 cp people for the dailies. This boss is easy, just make sure to let the boss kill who ever in your party fails to understand the mechanics on the fight.

elantaura

When I healed it I through shards for all the magic characters. Tank and I also coordinated warhorn to help with the stam issue. We beat it doing that.
but another idea would be for someone to use a helm like eg or even maw and run repentance off it. I did that in the early days now I'm just IA/spc. To help group stam.

susmitds

VarilRau wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

And this is exactly why i hate groups that need 561 cp people for the dailies. This boss is easy, just make sure to let the boss kill who ever in your party fails to understand the mechanics on the fight.

This is the way to go.
Soloed it as tank last time after rest of the group kept healing to over 3x her base health.

Alone did 7M damage to a boss that starts with 5M.

Jamini

Is she tauntable?
What's the stamina cost to break free?

My healer is setup with all magicka attributes, so stamina is just 10k, and I just can't break free.
When I switch to back bar I have 11k stamina and break free instantly.

No, she is untauntable.
Tanks should carry a damage or proc set for her. (And a few other bosses who do not respect taunts)

Break free is ~6k stamina, and gives you CC immunity for a few seconds. Conserve your stamina and, as stated, use pots if you must.

DRXHarbinger

Also 10 points in tumbling makes quite a difference on a mag build.

TARAFRAKA

susmitds wrote: »

VarilRau wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

And this is exactly why i hate groups that need 561 cp people for the dailies. This boss is easy, just make sure to let the boss kill who ever in your party fails to understand the mechanics on the fight.

This is the way to go.
Soloed it as tank last time after rest of the group kept healing to over 3x her base health.

Alone did 7M damage to a boss that starts with 5M.

you are a odd tank then.
your resistances are low, why do you even have those skills on your bar? you dont seem to be specced as a tank at all.

DPShiro

What?
Never had a problem on a magicka build, and I even spam rearming trap constantly.

code65536

Seeing as how the boss completely ignores taunt (even her basic light attacks go out randomly), there is absolutely no reason to have a tank on that fight. Every time I fight Drodda, I gear-swap out of tank and into DPS.

And if the other members of your team are unable to manage their stamina and break out in a timely manner, just leave them dead because their DPS contribution would be negative.

GreenhaloX

That can be annoying when she heals herself when someone was not able to break free. So yes, always save enough stam for when she beams you. That's not the worst in that fight, though. Yes, if someone doesn't get away/move/roll out from her aoe or "red circle" when she reappears, (in vet) that is usually a one-hit kill. It's not really a hard fight, even after reading the scroll. It just can be long and tedious if someone can't break free or keeps dying from her aoe and need to be res. It is longer when the other dps is only in the lower 300 CP. Whoosh.. I don't like to fight her with the scroll much anymore, if I don't have to.

susmitds

@TARAFRAKA

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/309336/build-stamina-nightblade-devastation-tank-15k-sustained-selfbuffed-single-target-dps-as-tank#latest

Yeah, my resists are kinda low at 19k unbuffed (still need defending sword and reinforced shield for my gear set and also gotta gold the gear).
Was also using Velidreth instead of Bloodspawn due to bad DPS in the group. Ideally the setup reaches just 33.4k fully buffed in good groups, which is exactly what is needed, no more no less.

AntMan100673

As long as everyone knows what they're doing it's just a long fight but not particularly hard.

As a magicka character with about 10k max stamina mistakes I made initially were using caltrops (to help with procs) and getting in too close and having to role out of the aoe not leaving me with enough stamina to break free if I got targeted.

Dasovaruilos

What I do is to switch to Max Health / Max Stam or Tri-Stat food for that fight and don't block.

It is very annoying, but you can heal all her attacks besides the AoE with just BoL.

Switching food for Max Stam for that fight was the easiest solution for me.

SolarCat02

As a magicka character, don't use stamina for anything except the break free unless you are using stamina potions.

And if you die and are resurrected, and your character has less than 12k max stamina, try to time your acceptance after she grabs someone else, or at least not around the time she picks someone. With only half stamina at resurrection, that can be nasty.

Don't cast channel abilities either, you can get stuck in the channel and not be permitted to attempt to break free if she grabs you while channeling. She really should automatically interrupt any channels, but it doesn't seem to work that way?

The biggest problem my friends and I have with her is lag. Sometimes the person she grabs doesn't even see it, sometimes there is no animation at all, other times you will start to float but nothing else. We call out "break!" if someone sees it and everyone just spams the break free three times just in case.

MoFaRos

You can also use major defile on her I believe. Well that was what I used on my nb tank. Makes no sense to have other ultimate since its better to down her ASAP before all the adds come on.

psychotic13

The dungeon isn't difficult, aslong as the group is aware that they need to break free or she heals

Sleep

1. taunt doesn't work
2. I found an article (http://esoacademy.com/break-free-cc-break/) and it says "At Level 50 the cost of Break Free is 4,872 Stamina" but i'm not sure how old this article is. what i'm sure is that I can breakfree with 10k stamina.
and I notice that if you're immune when boss grabs you, you're not stunned so you can't breakfree, but boss will still gain her health back.

SquareSausage

Yep, sometimes you cant break free even when on full stamina, must be something to do with immunity to cc?

DannyLV702

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

Not accurate. I could solo the boss of it wasn't for the stupid stepping stone mechanic. I did this with a random (who had completely no idea what she was doing) buuuut I was desperate for my hulk gear and she wanted a helmet because it would look pretty or something like that. The only thing that made he boss hard was the fact that she would drain her stamina and so the boss would heal off of her undoing a lot of my dps. Honestly all you need is one good dps, but if you have two then that's 10 times better simply because you cut the agro against you by half. So yeah, it's just the mechanics you gotta get used to.

Inhuman003

add a Mundus Stones like The Tower Increases Maximum Stamina by 1280 or The Serpent It increases the Stamina Recovery so you can break free. because I know your not lacking on a lot of Magicka if u are not using a Mundus Stone.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Inhuman003 wrote: »

add a Mundus Stones like The Tower Increases Maximum Stamina by 1280 or The Serpent It increases the Stamina Recovery so you can break free. because I know your not lacking on a lot of Magicka if u are not using a Mundus Stone.

Seems overkill.

Learn to manage resources. Not that difficult.

DurzoBlint13

akl77 wrote: »

And I thought the dungeon is easy, but no, takes 4 561 good players to fail vet hard mode again and again. Tried different groups on vet like 4 or 5 times still failed. Then resort to normal version to finish it. Full of cp500+ people queuing normal, can't believe it.

Choking point is the boss heals so FAST, and adds keeps coming out constantly, and boss aoe deadly, then you gotta save stamina.

you would be surprised how many 561s have no clue about rotations, buffs, debuffs or how to DPS/heal/tank at all. Having 561 by your name does not mean you know what you are doing or that you have a viable build

AlexTech0x

You run out of magicka because you just simply waste it on unecessary roll dodges