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Guild Trader bids timing mechanism
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I hate trading. Easily my least enjoyed activity in Tamriel. I have no intention of ever bidding on a Guild Trader.
Yet I just realized I don't even know how people know when to bid on them. Do you just remember it from Natch Potes past? I seem to recall they changed the flip-over time.
How long do you have between when they "become available" for a bid and when the bidding is closed. I seem to recall friends camping out at 4 AM to bid on a trader like there was a 10 second window, like trying to buy concert tickets the moment they go on sale.
Yet I just realized I don't even know how people know when to bid on them. Do you just remember it from Natch Potes past? I seem to recall they changed the flip-over time.
How long do you have between when they "become available" for a bid and when the bidding is closed. I seem to recall friends camping out at 4 AM to bid on a trader like there was a 10 second window, like trying to buy concert tickets the moment they go on sale.
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Trader bids are locked in 5 minutes before trader flip.
Hires of unbid traders (and bids for the upcoming week) are opened 5 minutes after trader flip.
Trader flip happens on the hour.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭✭✭✭I seem to recall friends camping out at 4 AM to bid on a trader like there was a 10 second window, like trying to buy concert tickets the moment they go on sale.
You literally have a 10080 minute window to bid on a trader.
And since it is closed bidding, there is absolutely no need to bid last minute ...
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✭✭✭✭✭I seem to recall friends camping out at 4 AM to bid on a trader like there was a 10 second window, like trying to buy concert tickets the moment they go on sale.
You literally have a 10080 minute window to bid on a trader.
And since it is closed bidding, there is absolutely no need to bid last minute ...
At one time people did because everyone in the guild could see the bid... So spies and stuff. Now only those members with trader hire privileges get to see the bid. At least before it's hired. So no need to rush.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I seem to recall friends camping out at 4 AM to bid on a trader like there was a 10 second window, like trying to buy concert tickets the moment they go on sale.
You literally have a 10080 minute window to bid on a trader.
And since it is closed bidding, there is absolutely no need to bid last minute ...
At one time people did because everyone in the guild could see the bid... So spies and stuff. Now only those members with trader hire privileges get to see the bid. At least before it's hired. So no need to rush.
That's incorrect. Anyone can still spy on the bid amount. All they need is to track the guild bank's balance. Since you can see the bank balance and since every transaction except for the bids are in public view, it's just a matter of calculating the discrepancy between the bank balance and what can be accounted for by the transaction log. There's even an addon that makes this trivially easy. ZOS needs to restrict the view of the bank balance in order to actually stop bid spying.
Restricting the view of the bid transactions merely shields a casual player from seeing the bids, but those are also the players who don't care about them in the first place. Anyone who wants to bid spy will not be deterred by this paper-thin veil and will continue to bid-spy.
I've heard accounts of bid spying still happening from the GMs of some Rawl/Mournhold guilds, and I know that many GMs still do last-minute final bids as a result.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
MrBrandon✭✭✭Yeah, just add an auction house and call it a day. That would make to much sense though. ZOS needs new management.Edited by MrBrandon on November 27, 2016 3:00PM1